Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump, Ohio party leaders say

[JoeB131]

The entire reason why they voted 3rd party is because they are sick and tired of the Democrats and their fascist "identity politics" that directly undermines their egalitarian ideals.

no, guy, the reason why they voted third party is because the media told them,

1) Hillary couldn't possibly lose
2) Hillary stuff with the email was just as bad as everything about Trump.

So it gave them the option to opt out or indulge their misogyny.

The more you call yourselves "progressives", and at the same time unapologetically create racist caricatures like "Billy-Bob" and "Cletus", the more millennials and principled leftists will leave your party.

I'm being kind of kind to Cleetus and Billy-Bob. I mean, these people never seem to learn. It's why they live in the poorest, most miserable states in the country. They one percenters keep screwing them, and they keep voting for more of the same. They've pretty much been doing that since the fucking Civil War, when thousands of them happily removed themselves from the Gene Pool so a few rich people could keep owing slaves, and they consider that their crowning moment.

Without young whites you not only can't win, but you are also no longer a "progressive" party in the slightest.

Actually, what does your side offer young whites? A chance to get the jobs their grandfathers had working in a factory or a coal mine? Those jobs aren't ever coming back and they wouldn't want them if they did.

Again, this is all academic, because Trump will be such an unpopular character that he'll probably do in the GOP for years.

35% approval rating without a recession or war... imagine what they'll be like when he gets one of those.
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[martybegan]

They are asking for an advantage due to their skin color, gender, or who they feel like buggering that day. I thought the fight was for equality, not payback.

You mean they are asking for the same advantages that white straight males get? Wow. That's horrible.

to you, I guess, Mr. Born on third and thought he hit a triple.

I come from a house where my father was a check sorting machine technician and my mother was a nurse. I was the first in my direct line to graduate from a 4 year college, or even attend one. How is that being born on third?

Since I am in my early 40's my benefit from all that racism in the past is exactly zero. My ancestors weren't even here during slavery, and we lived in NY the whole time, so we didn't get any zing out of Jim Crow. either.

My story is similar, except I have an ancestor on one branch that fought to free the slaves.

I have one Great Grandfather that was born here in the late 1800's. Everyone else is from the old country, Irish/Italian, which is Ironic because mostly for the Irish, and sometimes for the Southern Italians, both have sometimes been called the "*******" of Europe.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Horseshit. If you live to be 72, you've gotten back everything you've paid into Social Security. If you have one serious illness, you've gotten back everything you've paid into Medicare. If you are unemployed for more than 10 weeks, you've gotten back everything your employer has paid into unemployment for the last 10 years.

White People Welfare. You're all for it except when the Darkies want it.

IF you live to 72. If you don't,then all that money taken from you while working is gone, and it goes to support the programs for those who do live to 72. Same with the wealthy. They pay into the program and many don't use it. They have private healthcare and SS isn't worth their time. They don't need it.

It's you leftists that invented these programs, now you're complaining about them? How typical. Can't blame you really. All programs created by leftists are a failure or will one day soon end up to be a failure.

They are the "entitlements" that white people mostly collect. As opposed to "Welfare" that people of color collect. Of course, most of the people on welfare are white trash in Jesusland, and most people of color have jobs.

Then what are you complaining about?

Well, let's start with the obvious. No, I probably wouldn't fit into Japan since I don't speak Japanese. I probably wouldn't fit into Germany (even though my dad was born there) because I don't speak German. So pretty much, my only options are the UK, Canada and Australia...

But frankly, it's better to fix the racism and inequality in this country, to put a boot on the neck of the Rednecks in Jesusland for their own good.

Why wait? You can live in paradise now! Pack your bags and head to Europe. You won't have a problem in any of those countries. The terrorists move there every day. And if you move to a place like Cuba, they will not only accept you, but welcome you with open arms. You'd be a hero there Joe. It's a leftists dream. There are no evil rich CEO's because only the government has money, they take care of you cradle to grave, nobody but the government has guns, and everybody is equal.........equally poor. And just think of the weather you could enjoy!

No, you lost in 2000, you lost in 2016. Cheating through the system the Slave Rapists left us and we haven't repealled yet isnt' winning.

So in 2004, you barely won, because as a rule, we don't throw out presidents in the middle of a war.

Nobody cheated anything except the left, and we've posted multiple links to show that lie. The Supreme Court stopped the leftist Florida courts from making laws on the bench just for Al Gore. You just don't like it because your side got caught cheating. Plus all fact check sites state that Bush would have won the recount anyway.

Trump? You got your recount in the three states you claimed cheating went on, and found absolutely nothing.

 

[ptbw forever]

Not only that, they figure the best way back to power is to double down on their attacks on anything that doesn't fit their worldview.

So more balkanization, more races to the top of the victim pole, and more concentrating on asinine social issues instead of the harder things that have to be done.

Yawn.... Again, Trump got less of the vote than Romney did. Less white people voted for him than voted for Romney. What killed Mrs. Clinton was all the shitheads who voted for third party turds in PA, WI and MI instead of her because they thought she had it in the bag.

So even if Billy-Bob and Cleetus don't dun-der figure out they were had, these people have already realized their mistake.

The entire reason why they voted 3rd party is because they are sick and tired of the Democrats and their fascist "identity politics" that directly undermines their egalitarian ideals.

The more you call yourselves "progressives", and at the same time unapologetically create racist caricatures like "Billy-Bob" and "Cletus", the more millennials and principled leftists will leave your party.

Without young whites you not only can't win, but you are also no longer a "progressive" party in the slightest.

That's why they want unchecked immigration.


So they, at some point soon, they CAN win without any white people.

When the number of white Democrats reaches zero, that will be a huge victory for white people regardless of how well Republicans are faring.

 

[Fueri]

Of course they are. They were tone deaf throughout the election and still are.

They've found their excuses (rooshins!) and stick with them like flies on shit.

And it's about more than the election, which is over. They can't admit they lost legitimately and claim trump is "illegitimate" at the same time, so they have no choice but to continue to bang their tired old drums to give them cover to "resist".

It's obvious to anyone that can look around the first corner, but it's all they've got right now while they try to run the clock out to 2018, so they have little choice.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Of course they are. They were tone deaf throughout the election and still are.

They've found their excuses (rooshins!) and stick with them like flies on shit.

And it's about more than the election, which is over. They can't admit they lost legitimately and claim trump is "illegitimate" at the same time, so they have no choice but to continue to bang their tired old drums to give them cover to "resist".

It's obvious to anyone that can look around the first corner, but it's all they've got right now while they try to run the clock out to 2018, so they have little choice.

They are such brainwashed people. Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

If Big Brother ever told their followers the truth, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they would stop voting. They have a hard enough time trying to get their constituents to the polls as it is. It's one of the reasons they are fighting Voter-ID.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The DEM coalition fell apart when the blue collar workers in the swing states left and the Negroes did not turn out to vote.

From Democrat memos, the focus was more on Latinos; aka "Operation Taco Bowl." These groups that allow themselves to be boxed up and stored by the Democrat Party finally turned the tables on the Democrats. Blue Collar Workers, Unions, Blacks, Gays........the Democrats thought they had them all boxed up in 2016. When the results came in, it was the Russians' fault.

 

[Fueri]

Of course they are. They were tone deaf throughout the election and still are.

They've found their excuses (rooshins!) and stick with them like flies on shit.

And it's about more than the election, which is over. They can't admit they lost legitimately and claim trump is "illegitimate" at the same time, so they have no choice but to continue to bang their tired old drums to give them cover to "resist".

It's obvious to anyone that can look around the first corner, but it's all they've got right now while they try to run the clock out to 2018, so they have little choice.

They are such brainwashed people. Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

If Big Brother ever told their followers the truth, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they would stop voting. They have a hard enough time trying to get their constituents to the polls as it is. It's one of the reasons they are fighting Voter-ID.

Yeah and symptomatic of the political divide and tactics we're seeing now.

They have to choose a message which explains why they lost and also props up their demoralized base, provides political cover to simply obstruct whatever, wherever, however, and convinces people to still follow them.

Sooooo...............ROOOOSHINS! If you step back and think about it, however, this is perfect.

- It is not disprovable. This is the key. They can ride this pony indefinitely
- It stirs them to action as 'patriots' 'resisting' a wrongfully 'installed' president
- It deflects to the evil ruskies their loss, both taking the focus from them and shifting it to an outside, evil, entity that can be overtly rallied against.


Hillary was a shit candidate. They did not listen to the rust belt. They did not listen to young voters. They did not take heed from the Sanders movement. They did not listen to Bill Clinton who told them to campaign in the Midwest. They thought they had an insurmountable lead, believed too much in the polls, which did indeed show a ~30% chance of a Trump win going into election day, and got blindsided by something they should have seen coming. And now.......ROOSHINS! lol.

It's hilarious, actually. Like fooling a bunch of 3 year olds with some nonsense that they took the old dog off into the country so he could live on a farm or some nonsense. And they're gulping down the ready-made piss like the good little dullards they are, after botching the most winnable election in who knows how long, while calling the other side stupid. lol. It's fucking awesome.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Of course they are. They were tone deaf throughout the election and still are.

They've found their excuses (rooshins!) and stick with them like flies on shit.

And it's about more than the election, which is over. They can't admit they lost legitimately and claim trump is "illegitimate" at the same time, so they have no choice but to continue to bang their tired old drums to give them cover to "resist".

It's obvious to anyone that can look around the first corner, but it's all they've got right now while they try to run the clock out to 2018, so they have little choice.

They are such brainwashed people. Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

If Big Brother ever told their followers the truth, it would knock the wind out of their sails and they would stop voting. They have a hard enough time trying to get their constituents to the polls as it is. It's one of the reasons they are fighting Voter-ID.

Yeah and symptomatic of the political divide and tactics we're seeing now.

They have to choose a message which explains why they lost and also props up their demoralized base, provides political cover to simply obstruct whatever, wherever, however, and convinces people to still follow them.

Sooooo...............ROOOOSHINS! If you step back and think about it, however, this is perfect.

- It is not disprovable. This is the key. They can ride this pony indefinitely
- It stirs them to action as 'patriots' 'resisting' a wrongfully 'installed' president
- It deflects to the evil ruskies their loss, both taking the focus from them and shifting it to an outside, evil, entity that can be overtly rallied against.


Hillary was a shit candidate. They did not listen to the rust belt. They did not listen to young voters. They did not take heed from the Sanders movement. They did not listen to Bill Clinton who told them to campaign in the Midwest. They thought they had an insurmountable lead, believed too much in the polls, which did indeed show a ~30% chance of a Trump win going into election day, and got blindsided by something they should have seen coming. And now.......ROOSHINS! lol.

It's hilarious, actually. Like fooling a bunch of 3 year olds with some nonsense that they took the old dog off into the country so he could live on a farm or some nonsense. And they're gulping down the ready-made piss like the good little dullards they are, after botching the most winnable election in who knows how long, while calling the other side stupid. lol. It's fucking awesome.

What's really amazing that in spite of the obvious, brainwashing still works on them.

During Obama's early years, they lost the Congress Then the governorships across the country, along with that were many smaller positions that also went Republican. Then they lost the Senate, and in spite of all that, they still think the Russians are to blame for their loss of the White House.

In 2000, it was the Supreme Court that "stole" the election from Gore. After that in 2004, it was Diebold machines. Now it's the Russians, and the liberals can't see a pattern here yet.

Democrats can't tell their constituents that the country as a whole are rejecting their ideas. People don't want cradle to grave government. We don't want government sitting at our dinner table passing the biscuits to our kids on the other side. We don't need Socialism and we don't want to surrender our freedom to it.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

This is glaringly obvious when they went with Clintonista, Tom Perez. The DNC is the party of George Soros, Time Warner, the Deep State, etc.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Make up your minds, more than a few of your fellow loons screech it was the uneducated whites who voted him in.

Fact, the dems have lost election after election, they better start figuring out why

No, Dimmocrats, dont listen to people telling you that you are doing something wrong.


You are doing quite well, in fact you are WINNING!

Just keep calm and keep on keeping on!

That'll work quite well for you!

 

[JoeB131]

IF you live to 72. If you don't,then all that money taken from you while working is gone, and it goes to support the programs for those who do live to 72. Same with the wealthy. They pay into the program and many don't use it. They have private healthcare and SS isn't worth their time. They don't need it.

It's you leftists that invented these programs, now you're complaining about them? How typical. Can't blame you really. All programs created by leftists are a failure or will one day soon end up to be a failure.

I'm not complaining about them. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the White Person who is happy SS and Medicare keeps Mom from moving in at 65, but man, they will bitch to high heaven about the lady who gets food stamps for a year or two (the amount of time most people are on those kinds of programs).

You see, the problem you guys don't get is that most of you dumb fucks who keep voting in Republicans aren't rich.... and you are all for entitlements that benefit YOU.

Then what are you complaining about?

The inherent racism of an asshole whose boss doesn't consider him valuable enough to pay for health insurance, but still thinks he's better than the darkies?

Why wait? You can live in paradise now! Pack your bags and head to Europe. You won't have a problem in any of those countries. The terrorists move there every day. And if you move to a place like Cuba, they will not only accept you, but welcome you with open arms. You'd be a hero there Joe. It's a leftists dream. There are no evil rich CEO's because only the government has money, they take care of you cradle to grave, nobody but the government has guns, and everybody is equal.........equally poor. And just think of the weather you could enjoy!

You miss the point. Unlike a loser like you, I'll do well in whatever system you have. The question is, what kind of society do we want to have? Well, the people vote for more of what I want every time you give them the option. Every time.

But dumbasses like you will keep fighting it and wonder why your boss won't pay for your health insurance.

Nobody cheated anything except the left, and we've posted multiple links to show that lie. The Supreme Court stopped the leftist Florida courts from making laws on the bench just for Al Gore. You just don't like it because your side got caught cheating. Plus all fact check sites state that Bush would have won the recount anyway.

Horseshit. And that was only after Jeb purged thousands of black folks from the voter rolls.

The fair way- hold a runoff election without the third party turds...

 

[JoeB131]

During Obama's early years, they lost the Congress Then the governorships across the country, along with that were many smaller positions that also went Republican. Then they lost the Senate, and in spite of all that, they still think the Russians are to blame for their loss of the White House.

Yawn.. Guy, the same thing can be said for Bush or Clinton or Reagan.

In fact, the only guy who didn't lose Congress during a midterm was Jimmy Carter.

Come 2018, all those "little positions" will flip back to the Democrats, because that's theonly way people can protest the hot clusterfuck that is Trump.

 

[B. Kidd]

Shhhhhh! Hush! Quiet!

Don't tell the Democraps that adherence to 'identity politics' and 'social engineering' as their main party platform dooms them to continue to wander clueless in a political forest of their own choosing.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

During Obama's early years, they lost the Congress Then the governorships across the country, along with that were many smaller positions that also went Republican. Then they lost the Senate, and in spite of all that, they still think the Russians are to blame for their loss of the White House.

Yawn.. Guy, the same thing can be said for Bush or Clinton or Reagan.

In fact, the only guy who didn't lose Congress during a midterm was Jimmy Carter.

Come 2018, all those "little positions" will flip back to the Democrats, because that's theonly way people can protest the hot clusterfuck that is Trump.

Except there's not enough of them. People remember what it was like under an all Democrat government. In fact we have 20 trillion things to remember about the Democrat government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm not complaining about them. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the White Person who is happy SS and Medicare keeps Mom from moving in at 65, but man, they will bitch to high heaven about the lady who gets food stamps for a year or two (the amount of time most people are on those kinds of programs).

You see, the problem you guys don't get is that most of you dumb fucks who keep voting in Republicans aren't rich.... and you are all for entitlements that benefit YOU.

What does being rich have to do with Republicans? Hil-Liar spent three times what Trump spent running for President. Where did she get all that money, the homeless?

You mean only white people are happy with SS and Medicare? Last I checked, all Americans are entitled to those things. You should really see somebody about being a self-hating white person. It's tearing you up inside Joe.

The inherent racism of an asshole whose boss doesn't consider him valuable enough to pay for health insurance, but still thinks he's better than the darkies?

Nice dodge. I take that back, it wasn't a nice dodge. Do you move the goal posts every time you have no cogent response?

You miss the point. Unlike a loser like you, I'll do well in whatever system you have. The question is, what kind of society do we want to have? Well, the people vote for more of what I want every time you give them the option. Every time.

But dumbasses like you will keep fighting it and wonder why your boss won't pay for your health insurance.

Last I checked, people don't want what your side has to offer. That's why you're a minority in the Congress and Senate. It's why Donald Trump is our President today.

What kind of society do I want? A free society for one. A society with as much government out of my life as possible for two. A society where I'm allowed to defend myself, a society where capitalism runs business, a society where people take care of themselves instead of the taxpayers. And unlike you, if there were such a place, I would move there.

But you are no different than the other hypocrites on your side. Always talking about Socialism but never trying it out for yourself first. How many libs said they were going to move to Canada if Trump won?

Horseshit. And that was only after Jeb purged thousands of black folks from the voter rolls.

The fair way- hold a runoff election without the third party turds...

Oh, so now it's the third parties fault? Must be, because according to Democrats, it's never their fault. They never do anything wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

Except there's not enough of them. People remember what it was like under an all Democrat government. In fact we have 20 trillion things to remember about the Democrat government.

Actually, you clowns are in the minority... and after you guys realize your mexican neighbors aren't going home and ObamaCare doesn't get repealled, I doubt most of you will even show up to the polls after you lose your jobs at the Piggly Wiggly.

 

[JoeB131]

You mean only white people are happy with SS and Medicare? Last I checked, all Americans are entitled to those things. You should really see somebody about being a self-hating white person. It's tearing you up inside Joe.

Guy, you miss the point more often than a retard. My point is that all you fuckhead who don't want no government are happy to take a big fat government check when YOU get it. What upsets you is when that poor person of color gets one. THAT'S your fucking hypocrisy.

Nice dodge. I take that back, it wasn't a nice dodge. Do you move the goal posts every time you have no cogent response?

It wasn't a dodge at all. I was just pointing our for all your racist, high and mighty bullshit, your boss doesn't even value you enough to provide you health insurance.

Last I checked, people don't want what your side has to offer. That's why you're a minority in the Congress and Senate. It's why Donald Trump is our President today.

No, Trump is president because the Russians hacked our election. 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary.

You Lost, and you stole the presidency anyway. It's why you can't get anything done. No one in that Republican Congress wants to be the guy who voted for that unpopular program. It's why ObamaCare isn't going away... ever.

Which is a good thing for you, given your boss doesn't consider your worthless, white trash ass worth insuring.

 

[mudwhistle]

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio —

The dinner was supposed to be a Democratic strategy session for an upcoming county election. But the mood grew darker as conversation turned toward the future of their party.

One by one, members of the Mahoning County Democratic Party poured out their frustrations: Just months after the presidential election, they felt folks like them were being forgotten - again. The party's comeback strategy was being steered by protesters, consultants and elitists from New York and California who have no idea what voters in middle America care about.

But worst of all, they said, the party hadn't learned from what they saw as the biggest message from November's election: Democrats have fallen completely out of touch with America's blue-collar voters.

"It doesn't matter how much we scream and holler about jobs and the economy at the local level. Our national leaders still don't get it," said David Betras, the county's party chair. "While Trump is talking about trade and jobs, they're still obsessing about which bathrooms people should be allowed to go into."

Others around the restaurant table nodded.

Since the election, Democrats have been swallowed up in an unending cycle of outrage and issues that have little to do with the nation's working class, they said, such as women's marches, fighting Trump's refugee ban and advocating for transgender bathroom rights.

..."Every time Trump so much as sneezes, we as a party are setting our hair on fire and running around like it's the end of the world," Betras said as the dinner wound down. "Most people around here don't care. They are living paycheck to paycheck, just trying to hold on. After everything that's happened, if we as a party still aren't speaking to them, then we are never getting them back."
Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump...

You have to be flat out living in denial not to see this.

"Democrats are still looking for evidence of a Russian connection......."

 

[JoeB131]

What kind of society do I want? A free society for one. A society with as much government out of my life as possible for two.

But again, you'll gleefully collect all that "White People Welfare" like Social Security, Medicare and Unemployment Insurance.

A society where I'm allowed to defend myself,

Gun in your home is 43 times more likely to kill a member of your family than a bad guy.... This is just plain stupid.

a society where capitalism runs business, a society where people take care of themselves instead of the taxpayers. And unlike you, if there were such a place, I would move there.

But that's the point. THere isn't such a place because that SHIT DOESN'T WORK!!!

You could argue that we had such a place before FDR (America's GREATEST President) gave us the New Deal, but America was a brutish place to live back then. People lived in miserable tenements - even most white people - and only lived to be about 60.

Most civilized societies realized that you need government safety nets. And it used to be, up until Reagan, anyway, that even Republicans realized that.

Oh, so now it's the third parties fault? Must be, because according to Democrats, it's never their fault. They never do anything wrong.

Sure we do. When we win, we don't stomp you guys into the ground. Instead they try to work with you, which is just plain stupid.