Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump, Ohio party leaders say

[Correll]

Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

NOt really fair to have a vile press/pop culture like we do that completely vilifies the GOP and then blame the GOP for their inability to get their message across.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What Ohio needs is a zero tolerance policy regarding voter fraud. And by that I mean a mandatory death penalty for anyone convicted of voter fraud.

Yeah, you have issues.

What you really have in Ohio is a lot of dumb people who vote Republican, and wonder why your cities look like Cleveland.

I went to Cleveland once. It was absolutely the most depressing place I ever visited.

Says the fuck head who lives in Chicago...



.

 

[Mac1958]

Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

NOt really fair to have a vile press/pop culture like we do that completely vilifies the GOP and then blame the GOP for their inability to get their message across.

I agree that most of the national press is against the GOP. Stipulated.

So now what? Messaging and image may be the most important elements of politics, and it's the GOP's job to figure out how to help itself in that area.

That's your challenge now.
..

 

[Correll]

Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

NOt really fair to have a vile press/pop culture like we do that completely vilifies the GOP and then blame the GOP for their inability to get their message across.

I agree that most of the national press is against the GOP. Stipulated.

So now what? Messaging and image may be the most important elements of politics, and it's the GOP's job to figure out how to help itself in that area.

That's your challenge now.
..

How are other people's actions our responsibility?

 

[Mac1958]

Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

NOt really fair to have a vile press/pop culture like we do that completely vilifies the GOP and then blame the GOP for their inability to get their message across.

I agree that most of the national press is against the GOP. Stipulated.

So now what? Messaging and image may be the most important elements of politics, and it's the GOP's job to figure out how to help itself in that area.

That's your challenge now.
..

How are other people's actions our responsibility?

Huh?

I'm saying you have to play the hand you're dealt the best you can, or not play at all. If you want a chance at winning.
.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Exactly my point. A lot of that money goes to people who probably don't need it because- white people welfare.

The ironic thing is, you are totally cool with Granny getting White People Welfare for decades after she retires but absolutely freak the fuck out when Lakesha gets food stamps for a couple of years during a recession caused by the One Percent...

Because... Racism.

No, because Lakesha was irresponsible, had five kids with no job, and the taxpayers will have to support her and her family for her entire life. SS and Medicare is something we all funded our entire lives. Big difference.

except we need houses and cars. We don't need guns. Also, most gun deaths aren't "accidents". Someone usually mean to kill someone when they die of a gun shot.

Yet gun violence and gun deaths have been decreasing since the 90's. If you think that government taking away our guns would stop criminals from getting guns, can you explain our situation today with record overdose and overdose deaths because of recreational narcotics that have been illegal as long as we've been alive?

Yes we need our guns because no matter what, the criminals will always have theirs. Our ability to have and use firearms is a deterrent to crime. That's why most mass shootings take place in gun-free zones. It doesn't matter whether you have a gun, the criminal doesn't know if you do or not. Don't believe me, get a huge sign made that says WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE and put that sign on your front porch for a couple of months, and let us know how that worked out for you.

No, they don't. They also have 83% of the wealth, so they still aren't paying enough.

Top 20 Percent of Households Pay 94 Percent of Income Taxes - Tax Foundation

Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes

https://www.quora.com/The-top-10-pe...ed-What-is-a-“fair-share”-for-this-top-decile

Bill Clinton was the guy who stopped pissing away money on expensive weapons and made the rich pay their fair share. that's why we had surpluses and prosperity on his watch.

Clinton didn't spend money--the US Congress spent money. Most of Clinton's success was due to the technology boom that started when he became President.

ObamaCare is working just fine for me. But I work a job where my employer wants to keep me happy with good insurance. Unlike you.

Working fine? You mean Arizona's rates didn't double this year? You mean everybody is insured? You mean insurance companies are not dropping like flies because they can't afford to take the loss any longer?

Bad news for ya, we have less of a percentage of people with private insurance than before DumBama invaded the White House. Most of Commie Care people are on government programs. It was a great success for Democrats, because Commie Care's main goal was to create as many new government dependents as possible.

 

[Correll]

Their party has to keep them convinced that the future is good for them; people are accepting Socialism/ Communism as they way we should run our country. All those Republicans are old white people that are dying off quickly.

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

NOt really fair to have a vile press/pop culture like we do that completely vilifies the GOP and then blame the GOP for their inability to get their message across.

I agree that most of the national press is against the GOP. Stipulated.

So now what? Messaging and image may be the most important elements of politics, and it's the GOP's job to figure out how to help itself in that area.

That's your challenge now.
..

How are other people's actions our responsibility?

Huh?

I'm saying you have to play the hand you're dealt the best you can, or not play at all. If you want a chance at winning.
.

We are playing our hand the best we can.

And all indications to date is that that is not going to have any real impact.

OUr "Brand" for the coming Minority Majority is defined, not by our actions, but by liberal propaganda.

This is something that exists completely outside of our control or even influence.

Nothing we do has anything to do with that.

Those actions are the responsibility of those who are doing those actions, not us.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Exactly my point. A lot of that money goes to people who probably don't need it because- white people welfare.

The ironic thing is, you are totally cool with Granny getting White People Welfare for decades after she retires but absolutely freak the fuck out when Lakesha gets food stamps for a couple of years during a recession caused by the One Percent...

Because... Racism.

No, because Lakesha was irresponsible, had five kids with no job, and the taxpayers will have to support her and her family for her entire life. SS and Medicare is something we all funded our entire lives. Big difference.

except we need houses and cars. We don't need guns. Also, most gun deaths aren't "accidents". Someone usually mean to kill someone when they die of a gun shot.

Yet gun violence and gun deaths have been decreasing since the 90's. If you think that government taking away our guns would stop criminals from getting guns, can you explain our situation today with record overdose and overdose deaths because of recreational narcotics that have been illegal as long as we've been alive?

Yes we need our guns because no matter what, the criminals will always have theirs. Our ability to have and use firearms is a deterrent to crime. That's why most mass shootings take place in gun-free zones. It doesn't matter whether you have a gun, the criminal doesn't know if you do or not. Don't believe me, get a huge sign made that says WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE and put that sign on your front porch for a couple of months, and let us know how that worked out for you.

No, they don't. They also have 83% of the wealth, so they still aren't paying enough.

Top 20 Percent of Households Pay 94 Percent of Income Taxes - Tax Foundation

Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes

https://www.quora.com/The-top-10-pe...ed-What-is-a-“fair-share”-for-this-top-decile

Bill Clinton was the guy who stopped pissing away money on expensive weapons and made the rich pay their fair share. that's why we had surpluses and prosperity on his watch.

Clinton didn't spend money--the US Congress spent money. Most of Clinton's success was due to the technology boom that started when he became President.

ObamaCare is working just fine for me. But I work a job where my employer wants to keep me happy with good insurance. Unlike you.

Working fine? You mean Arizona's rates didn't double this year? You mean everybody is insured? You mean insurance companies are not dropping like flies because they can't afford to take the loss any longer?

Bad news for ya, we have less of a percentage of people with private insurance than before DumBama invaded the White House. Most of Commie Care people are on government programs. It was a great success for Democrats, because Commie Care's main goal was to create as many new government dependents as possible.

even if all cockroaches and rodents had the right to vote, Hillary would of lost by 25 Million votes because we live in a time now where all bugs and rodents feel insulted as most people identity thier species of being associated with Liberals.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hey jackass...

FYI, Cleveland has a City Council that is exclusively from the jackass party and the Mayor is also a jackass party member.

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

And they succeed by failing.

As they drive the middle class away, into the suburbs, they solidify their grip on power.


As neighborhood after neighborhood turn into ghettos, the voters there become increasingly dependent and loyal.


This is the future for the nation, that dems like rightwinger WANT, and are ACTIVELY working towards.


And have been for decades, while our GOP leadership were afraid to say anything.

I think people are fighting back. I think more and more are waking up. That's why Republicans lead the country today on every level. There's always hope.

 

[Tresha91203]

The working class voted Democrat. It was richer white suburbinites who voted for Trump in droves.

"Economic uncertainty?". Horseshit. It was the racism, stupid. But we're not allowed to talk about that, as conservative PC speech codes forbid it.

Rural America isn't "rich white suburbanites." It has pockets of suburbia but is mostly country, not suburb.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Exactly my point. A lot of that money goes to people who probably don't need it because- white people welfare.

The ironic thing is, you are totally cool with Granny getting White People Welfare for decades after she retires but absolutely freak the fuck out when Lakesha gets food stamps for a couple of years during a recession caused by the One Percent...

Because... Racism.

No, because Lakesha was irresponsible, had five kids with no job, and the taxpayers will have to support her and her family for her entire life. SS and Medicare is something we all funded our entire lives. Big difference.

except we need houses and cars. We don't need guns. Also, most gun deaths aren't "accidents". Someone usually mean to kill someone when they die of a gun shot.

Yet gun violence and gun deaths have been decreasing since the 90's. If you think that government taking away our guns would stop criminals from getting guns, can you explain our situation today with record overdose and overdose deaths because of recreational narcotics that have been illegal as long as we've been alive?

Yes we need our guns because no matter what, the criminals will always have theirs. Our ability to have and use firearms is a deterrent to crime. That's why most mass shootings take place in gun-free zones. It doesn't matter whether you have a gun, the criminal doesn't know if you do or not. Don't believe me, get a huge sign made that says WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE and put that sign on your front porch for a couple of months, and let us know how that worked out for you.

No, they don't. They also have 83% of the wealth, so they still aren't paying enough.

Top 20 Percent of Households Pay 94 Percent of Income Taxes - Tax Foundation

Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes

https://www.quora.com/The-top-10-pe...ed-What-is-a-“fair-share”-for-this-top-decile

Bill Clinton was the guy who stopped pissing away money on expensive weapons and made the rich pay their fair share. that's why we had surpluses and prosperity on his watch.

Clinton didn't spend money--the US Congress spent money. Most of Clinton's success was due to the technology boom that started when he became President.

ObamaCare is working just fine for me. But I work a job where my employer wants to keep me happy with good insurance. Unlike you.

Working fine? You mean Arizona's rates didn't double this year? You mean everybody is insured? You mean insurance companies are not dropping like flies because they can't afford to take the loss any longer?

Bad news for ya, we have less of a percentage of people with private insurance than before DumBama invaded the White House. Most of Commie Care people are on government programs. It was a great success for Democrats, because Commie Care's main goal was to create as many new government dependents as possible.

even if all cockroaches and rodents had the right to vote, Hillary would of lost by 25 Million votes because we live in a time now where all bugs and rodents feel insulted as most people identity thier species of being associated with Liberals.

Oh, you mean the deplorable rats and roaches.

 

[Correll]

hey, jackass... Cleveland's problems have little to do with it's elected officials.

Has to do with the fact that big industries used it up and threw it away when they couldn't dump toxins in the rivers anymore.

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

And they succeed by failing.

As they drive the middle class away, into the suburbs, they solidify their grip on power.


As neighborhood after neighborhood turn into ghettos, the voters there become increasingly dependent and loyal.


This is the future for the nation, that dems like rightwinger WANT, and are ACTIVELY working towards.


And have been for decades, while our GOP leadership were afraid to say anything.

I think people are fighting back. I think more and more are waking up. That's why Republicans lead the country today on every level. There's always hope.

Trumps victory came from making inroads in the blue collar white vote.


The dem strategy does not depend on that vote. Indeed is based on making that vote irrelevant.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

hasnt Hillary figured out by now that no one sees her as a woman? more like a male sasquatch wearing 2 cath bags?

 

[Disir]

hasnt Hillary figured out by now that no one sees her as a woman? more like a male sasquatch wearing 2 cath bags?

That doesn't have anything to do with anything.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Exactly my point. A lot of that money goes to people who probably don't need it because- white people welfare.

The ironic thing is, you are totally cool with Granny getting White People Welfare for decades after she retires but absolutely freak the fuck out when Lakesha gets food stamps for a couple of years during a recession caused by the One Percent...

Because... Racism.

No, because Lakesha was irresponsible, had five kids with no job, and the taxpayers will have to support her and her family for her entire life. SS and Medicare is something we all funded our entire lives. Big difference.

except we need houses and cars. We don't need guns. Also, most gun deaths aren't "accidents". Someone usually mean to kill someone when they die of a gun shot.

Yet gun violence and gun deaths have been decreasing since the 90's. If you think that government taking away our guns would stop criminals from getting guns, can you explain our situation today with record overdose and overdose deaths because of recreational narcotics that have been illegal as long as we've been alive?

Yes we need our guns because no matter what, the criminals will always have theirs. Our ability to have and use firearms is a deterrent to crime. That's why most mass shootings take place in gun-free zones. It doesn't matter whether you have a gun, the criminal doesn't know if you do or not. Don't believe me, get a huge sign made that says WE HAVE NO FIREARMS IN THIS HOUSE and put that sign on your front porch for a couple of months, and let us know how that worked out for you.

No, they don't. They also have 83% of the wealth, so they still aren't paying enough.

Top 20 Percent of Households Pay 94 Percent of Income Taxes - Tax Foundation

Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes

https://www.quora.com/The-top-10-pe...ed-What-is-a-“fair-share”-for-this-top-decile

Bill Clinton was the guy who stopped pissing away money on expensive weapons and made the rich pay their fair share. that's why we had surpluses and prosperity on his watch.

Clinton didn't spend money--the US Congress spent money. Most of Clinton's success was due to the technology boom that started when he became President.

ObamaCare is working just fine for me. But I work a job where my employer wants to keep me happy with good insurance. Unlike you.

Working fine? You mean Arizona's rates didn't double this year? You mean everybody is insured? You mean insurance companies are not dropping like flies because they can't afford to take the loss any longer?

Bad news for ya, we have less of a percentage of people with private insurance than before DumBama invaded the White House. Most of Commie Care people are on government programs. It was a great success for Democrats, because Commie Care's main goal was to create as many new government dependents as possible.

even if all cockroaches and rodents had the right to vote, Hillary would of lost by 25 Million votes because we live in a time now where all bugs and rodents feel insulted as most people identity thier species of being associated with Liberals.

Oh, you mean the deplorable rats and roaches.

yes,,,those are the ones who would of voted for Trump,,,then again,,rodents and roaches are already registered to vote in Cally/NY,,,,illegally of course, thats how Hillary got 12 Million more votes than expected

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right, nothing to do with the officials.

The most recent was the DEMOCRAT Council voting to erect a dirt bike park. That's right, in spite of our police force being down 1/3 of what it was a few years ago, in spite of the improvements needed for the city, in spite of the ghettos that exist in Cleveland, they are going to spend 1.5 million dollars of our tax money on a dirt bike park. Why the importance of a dirt bike park? Because Mayor Jackson's grandson got ticketed for riding his dirt bike on the street.

The poor little angel. But his grandson is back in the news again. This time he was driving a car when he got pulled over---with a friend that had a warrant out for attempted murder.

Mayor's grandson pulled over by police, man wanted for attempted murder was passenger

You see, normally politicians like these would get voted out in a heartbeat. But Democrat voters are stupid, and all these council people and the Mayor will get reelected when the run for their next term.

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

And they succeed by failing.

As they drive the middle class away, into the suburbs, they solidify their grip on power.


As neighborhood after neighborhood turn into ghettos, the voters there become increasingly dependent and loyal.


This is the future for the nation, that dems like rightwinger WANT, and are ACTIVELY working towards.


And have been for decades, while our GOP leadership were afraid to say anything.

I think people are fighting back. I think more and more are waking up. That's why Republicans lead the country today on every level. There's always hope.

Trumps victory came from making inroads in the blue collar white vote.


The dem strategy does not depend on that vote. Indeed is based on making that vote irrelevant.

Absolutely. That's why the Democrats are pushing so hard to make whites a minority in this country. All minorities mostly vote Democrat. Some whites are waking up to this strategy, but many still are not.

 

[Mac1958]

But that is their long term plan, and it's why they display zero willingness to change their behavior. They believe that demographics will ultimately wipe out conservatism before long and they'll have a free playing field. So they can be as annoying as they want. Two points on that:

First, they jumped the gun a bit and assumed their plan was functional for 2016. That came around and bit them square on the ass, of course, and now they're facing the possibility of some long-term effects of that election and their behaviors - from legislation to the Supreme Court. Oops.

Second, in many ways, they may be right in the long run. The GOP's messaging remains absolutely horrible, and the party appears to still be incredibly tone deaf to the country's changing demographics. If the GOP doesn't wake up, and soon, the "progressives" will get exactly want they want.
.

NOt really fair to have a vile press/pop culture like we do that completely vilifies the GOP and then blame the GOP for their inability to get their message across.

I agree that most of the national press is against the GOP. Stipulated.

So now what? Messaging and image may be the most important elements of politics, and it's the GOP's job to figure out how to help itself in that area.

That's your challenge now.
..

How are other people's actions our responsibility?

Huh?

I'm saying you have to play the hand you're dealt the best you can, or not play at all. If you want a chance at winning.
.

We are playing our hand the best we can.

And all indications to date is that that is not going to have any real impact.

OUr "Brand" for the coming Minority Majority is defined, not by our actions, but by liberal propaganda.

This is something that exists completely outside of our control or even influence.

Nothing we do has anything to do with that.

Those actions are the responsibility of those who are doing those actions, not us.

Are you giving up, then?

If not, what's the plan, given the environment, to retain power?
.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

And they succeed by failing.

As they drive the middle class away, into the suburbs, they solidify their grip on power.


As neighborhood after neighborhood turn into ghettos, the voters there become increasingly dependent and loyal.


This is the future for the nation, that dems like rightwinger WANT, and are ACTIVELY working towards.


And have been for decades, while our GOP leadership were afraid to say anything.

I think people are fighting back. I think more and more are waking up. That's why Republicans lead the country today on every level. There's always hope.

Trumps victory came from making inroads in the blue collar white vote.


The dem strategy does not depend on that vote. Indeed is based on making that vote irrelevant.

Absolutely. That's why the Democrats are pushing so hard to make whites a minority in this country. All minorities mostly vote Democrat. Some whites are waking up to this strategy, but many still are not.

and now they are making up stories about Trump supporters pissed off,,,yah right!

 

[Cellblock2429]

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio —

The dinner was supposed to be a Democratic strategy session for an upcoming county election. But the mood grew darker as conversation turned toward the future of their party.

One by one, members of the Mahoning County Democratic Party poured out their frustrations: Just months after the presidential election, they felt folks like them were being forgotten - again. The party's comeback strategy was being steered by protesters, consultants and elitists from New York and California who have no idea what voters in middle America care about.

But worst of all, they said, the party hadn't learned from what they saw as the biggest message from November's election: Democrats have fallen completely out of touch with America's blue-collar voters.

"It doesn't matter how much we scream and holler about jobs and the economy at the local level. Our national leaders still don't get it," said David Betras, the county's party chair. "While Trump is talking about trade and jobs, they're still obsessing about which bathrooms people should be allowed to go into."

Others around the restaurant table nodded.

Since the election, Democrats have been swallowed up in an unending cycle of outrage and issues that have little to do with the nation's working class, they said, such as women's marches, fighting Trump's refugee ban and advocating for transgender bathroom rights.

..."Every time Trump so much as sneezes, we as a party are setting our hair on fire and running around like it's the end of the world," Betras said as the dinner wound down. "Most people around here don't care. They are living paycheck to paycheck, just trying to hold on. After everything that's happened, if we as a party still aren't speaking to them, then we are never getting them back."
Democrats still ignoring people who could have helped them defeat Trump...

You have to be flat out living in denial not to see this.

/---- let's pray nothing changes. The last thing we need is the alt left pretending to care about fly over country to win their votes.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

That's the point of democratic race baiting and immigration policies.

To make sure that it is NOT normal for politicians like that to get voted out.

Barring dramatic change, soon it will be normal for such politicians to NEVER get voted out. Because of bloc voting by minorities combined with the hard core Far Left.


And that will be the end of the two party system, any shred of accountability and ANY voice for Middle America in government policy.

We don't want the rest of the country to end up like these Democrat cities. The last Republican Mayor we had was George Voinovich. He eventually left Cleveland, became Governor, and after his two terms there, a US Senator. That's how long it's been.

I'm a diehard Republican voter; not because the Republicans are so great, but because the Democrats are so bad. But if we were Republican led for decades and the town kept getting worse, I would switch my vote and see what the other side had to offer. Will Democrats ever do that? Hell no. Just keep voting for the same failed leadership over and over again. Some of our police cars are over ten years old. They closed down some fire departments because of funding. What are they doing now? Going to spend a million and a half taxpayer dollars to build the Mayors grandson a dirt bike park. And I'd bet my paycheck to your dollar he will get reelected again if he runs.

And they succeed by failing.

As they drive the middle class away, into the suburbs, they solidify their grip on power.


As neighborhood after neighborhood turn into ghettos, the voters there become increasingly dependent and loyal.


This is the future for the nation, that dems like rightwinger WANT, and are ACTIVELY working towards.


And have been for decades, while our GOP leadership were afraid to say anything.

I think people are fighting back. I think more and more are waking up. That's why Republicans lead the country today on every level. There's always hope.

Trumps victory came from making inroads in the blue collar white vote.


The dem strategy does not depend on that vote. Indeed is based on making that vote irrelevant.

Absolutely. That's why the Democrats are pushing so hard to make whites a minority in this country. All minorities mostly vote Democrat. Some whites are waking up to this strategy, but many still are not.

i still want to see the video of Trump chanting to his crowds of 35,000,,,Make America White Again and Bring Back Slavery! Yeeeahhhh!(Dean Scream),,,,,that seems to be what the left is claiming