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I think you should grapple with that.more a question ...
just an observation
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I think you should grapple with that.more a question ...
I think you should grapple with that.
just an observation
We are all sinners, that's why Christ died on the cross, it was for us.
really - what's there for me to grapple with ...
Perhaps, your ownstup.........shortcomings?
None of you are saved a Jew cannot die for the sins of others just a like Catholic or Protestant cannot die for the sins of others...Was that what the prophesy said he was to do?
Leave us all wondering as to who is saved or not?
Or are you saying we are all saved?
Is Armageddon still a possibility?
Regards
DL
My observation through this thread and other topical threads on the subject is
that Christians tend to really piss athiests off for just being a Christian. I could
really care less what you believe, or if you believe anything at all. But, you seem
to have your buttons pushed with believers. Dude, you're nothing
We are all sinners, that's why Christ died on the cross, it was for us.
so what is the destination for those that triumph over evil as prescribed while alive, necessary requirement for judgement than wherever a christian is going. as having not died for us, either where will the itinerant be for us.
I'll will comment what I want, and where I want, as long as it's within the guidelines of the board.- your just looking for one ...
keep your comments to yourself when you are unwilling to defend them, whatever you are.
I'll will comment what I want, and where I want, as long as it's within the guidelines of the board.
Got it comrade? I hope so......
I know, I know, you're a hater and hater's gotta hate. My Lord is my Savior, and don't forget that.
We are all sinners, that's why Christ died on the cross, it was for us.
so what is the destination for those that triumph over evil as prescribed while alive, necessary requirement for judgement than wherever a christian is going.
keep your comments to yourself when you are unwilling to defend them, whatever you are.
"you made an allegation, not my issue you are unwilling to defend it"..........TO YOU.you know that i am a hater - no, that's your 4th century choir in this thread ...
you made an allegation, not my issue you are unwilling to defend it.
"you made an allegation, not my issue you are unwilling to defend it"..........TO YOU.
I hope that clears it up for you, hater.
I love to push atheist buttons. They start out very passive, but when they don't get
the responses they're looking for....their true hatred appears. Thanks for playing.
so what is the destination for those that triumph over evil as prescribed while alive, necessary requirement for judgement than wherever a christian is going. as having not died for us, either where will the itinerant be for us.
We are all sinners, that's why Christ died on the cross, it was for us.
so what is the destination for those that triumph over evil as prescribed while alive, necessary requirement for judgement than wherever a christian is going. as having not died for us, either where will the itinerant be for us.
more a question ... being forsaken would leave their destination a bit ambiguous. thought you might clear that up.
Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
What is the basis for your confusion as to whether Jesus ascended into Heaven? Wtf are you babbling about?Did Jesus resurrect in Heaven or in Hell?
Scriptures, as they often do, give both options as true.
The Bible does what it was created by the Jewish authors to do. Make us question and judge.
Without Midrash, the Bible is just another useless myth.
In one version, Jesus tells his fellow prisoner on the cross that they will both awaken in heaven.
Another version has Jesus awakening in hell, where he toils for 3 days.
One old adage might say, if one day is 1,000 years, Jesus is almost at his 2-year mark.
There is a confusion as to who received Jesus as a sacrifice, Satan, or the androgynous Yahweh.
If sacrificed to Satan, she rules the world.
If sacrificed to Yahweh, Jesus rules the world.
Into whose hands did Jesus ascend, Satan’s or Yahweh’s?
I cannot know where Jesus ended via the bible, but think there is a valuable moral lesson here, but do not quite have my finger on what it is. Help.
What is your best guess as to where Jesus is?
Regards
DL
Back Again, if your church occasionally recites in union the Apostles' Creed, it might help you reorder your uncertainty of Christ the lamb of God. IOW, his role as God's son is the sacrifice given for forgiveness of sins of believers and are recipients of his grace and will be rejoicing in him when their earthly life ends. Belief in Jesus has tremendous benefits and they are free. Read the New Testament at least 3 times next year and it will bless your understanding.You know: if the Son of God was sent on a mission to hell to try to save the souls of long lost sinners, that isn’t inconsistent with His then ascending into heaven.
And I’m not even religious.
My issue is more of a question. I am not religious but was raised with Church on Sundays. My question is simple: if we accept that God is Omnipotent and All Knowing and All Caring, then why would He require ANY “sacrifice” of anyone or anything at all? If He chooses to grant forgiveness, He wouldn’t need to sacrifice a real lamb much less His own Son.Back Again, if your church occasionally recites in union the Apostles' Creed, it might help you reorder your uncertainty of Christ the lamb of God. IOW, his role as God's son is the sacrifice given for forgiveness of sins of believers and are recipients of his grace and will be rejoicing in him when their earthly life ends. Belief in Jesus has tremendous benefits and they are free. Read the New Testament at least 3 times next year and it will bless your understanding.
Good night, everyone. Hope Christ's birthday was a time of joy for you. ♡
My issue is more of a question. I am not religious but was raised with Church on Sundays. My question is simple: if we accept that God is Omnipotent and All Knowing and All Caring, then why would He require ANY “sacrifice” of anyone or anything at all? If He chooses to grant forgiveness, He wouldn’t need to sacrifice a real lamb much less His own Son.
That never made any sense to me.
Read the New Testament at least 3 times next year and it will bless your understanding.
I fail to see any point to any passage that you just presented that would disprove anything about the resurrection (both spiritually and physically) of Christ Jesus.In his gospel, Luke said that Jesus was carried up into heaven (Lk 24:51). Unless he contradicted himself with what he said in Acts 19-11 regarding his exaltation to the Father, this cannot be a literal carrying away. This carrying up, or the Greek anakathizō, can refer to those literally raised from the dead, but Christ’s literal resurrection occurred in the tomb, not while he was talking to his disciples in Bethany. This “carrying away” was his ascension, or his exaltation to the Father.
After his resurrection, he remained on the earth. “I am with you always,” he assured his friends before his ascension (Mt 28:20).
Typo. Acts 1:9-11. Just a comment on the biological resurrection.Acts 19?