Do we really care about collusion in elections?

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Geaux4it]

Funny how the narrative keeps shifting...

We've gone from "no contact with Russians" to "no collusion with Russia" to "meh, so what"?

But did you have issue with Obama meddling in the election in Israel?

-Geaux

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

Update: President Obama on Thursday slapped Russia with new penalties for meddling in the U.S. presidential election, kicking out dozens of suspected spies and imposing banking restrictions on five people and four organizations the administration says were involved.

The CIA has accused Russia of interfering in the 2016 presidential election by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails. But critics might point out the U.S. has done similar things.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
-----------------------------------------------

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Bags of cash delivered to a Rome hotel for favored Italian candidates. Scandalous stories leaked to foreign newspapers to swing an election in Nicaragua. Millions of pamphlets, posters and stickers printed to defeat an incumbent in Serbia.

The long arm of Vladimir Putin? No, just a small sample of the United States’ history of intervention in foreign elections.

On Tuesday, American intelligence chiefs warned the Senate Intelligence Committee that Russia appears to be preparing to repeat in the 2018 midterm elections the same full-on chicanery it unleashed in 2016: hacking, leaking, social media manipulation and possibly more. Then on Friday, Robert Mueller, the special counsel, announced the indictments of 13 Russians and three companies, run by a businessman with close Kremlin ties, laying out in astonishing detail a three-year scheme to use social media to attack Hillary Clinton, boost Donald Trump and sow discord.

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Most Americans are understandably shocked by what they view as an unprecedented attack on our political system. But intelligence veterans, and scholars who have studied covert operations, have a different, and quite revealing, view.

DERP DERP DERP ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Israel is our ally

Russia isnt our ally

see the difference Gomer ?

lol... Obama sure knew how to treat his cough....... cough.... allies

He despised Netanyahu and his black side naturally hates Jews

-Geaux

 

[Thinker101]

Or is this just another of a myriad of double standards set before us by the Dims?

For the sake of argument, let's say Mueller if finally able to prove it.

Is meddling in foreign elections a impeachable offense?

If so, should Obama have been impeached for this meddling abroad in other countries elections?

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

Or how about Obama trying to influence the primary elections in his own party by sending his goons to Bill Clinton to pay off the opposition to drop out?

Sestak: Bill Clinton offered him job to quit race

Or what about Hillary colluding with the Ukrainian government to win the election?

Team Hillary Colluded With Ukraine - Hannity: "Where's the Outrage?" - VIDEO

I see nothing wrong with us meddling in foreign elections. If a politician asks us to sabotage his country’s election and we do, then that guy’s opponents should hunt him down mercilessly. But I wouldn’t bat an eye about it. Just like how Russians have no problem with Putin installing Trump.

Hmm...so you see nothing wrong, as long as it's a democrat doing the meddling.

 

[Geaux4it]

Why such silence from the media that obsesses over alleged Russian interference in our elections?
While the media obsess over an alleged Russian conspiracy to collude with Donald Trump to affect America’s 2016 presidential election, what about Obama’s interference in the elections of other countries? Most Americans have no idea that President Obama meddled in elections all over the world. And apparently, the media decided there’s no reason for Americans to know about this illegal activity.

Indeed, in 2016, the Los Angeles Times did a story on how America has interfered with other nation’s elections in the past, but they stopped short of mentioning the various foreign elections Obama tried to influence. But the same article reports that Obama “slapped Russia with new penalties for meddling in the U.S. Presidential election… by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails.” Hypocrisy check, anyone?


Israel

During Israel’s 2015 elections, the Obama administration — led by Secretary of State John Kerry — illegally intervened when they attempted to defeat the reelection of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by covertly funneling State Department grants to opposition groups. The Obama administration detested Netanyahu due to his refusal to cave into Palestinian demands, a group that even refused to recognize the existence of Israel.


Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

 

[Siete]

Funny how the narrative keeps shifting...

We've gone from "no contact with Russians" to "no collusion with Russia" to "meh, so what"?

But did you have issue with Obama meddling in the election in Israel?

-Geaux

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

Update: President Obama on Thursday slapped Russia with new penalties for meddling in the U.S. presidential election, kicking out dozens of suspected spies and imposing banking restrictions on five people and four organizations the administration says were involved.

The CIA has accused Russia of interfering in the 2016 presidential election by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails. But critics might point out the U.S. has done similar things.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
-----------------------------------------------

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Bags of cash delivered to a Rome hotel for favored Italian candidates. Scandalous stories leaked to foreign newspapers to swing an election in Nicaragua. Millions of pamphlets, posters and stickers printed to defeat an incumbent in Serbia.

The long arm of Vladimir Putin? No, just a small sample of the United States’ history of intervention in foreign elections.

On Tuesday, American intelligence chiefs warned the Senate Intelligence Committee that Russia appears to be preparing to repeat in the 2018 midterm elections the same full-on chicanery it unleashed in 2016: hacking, leaking, social media manipulation and possibly more. Then on Friday, Robert Mueller, the special counsel, announced the indictments of 13 Russians and three companies, run by a businessman with close Kremlin ties, laying out in astonishing detail a three-year scheme to use social media to attack Hillary Clinton, boost Donald Trump and sow discord.

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Most Americans are understandably shocked by what they view as an unprecedented attack on our political system. But intelligence veterans, and scholars who have studied covert operations, have a different, and quite revealing, view.

DERP DERP DERP ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Israel is our ally

Russia isnt our ally

see the difference Gomer ?

lol... Obama sure knew how to treat his cough....... cough.... allies

He despised Netanyahu and his black side naturally hates Jews

-Geaux

not as much as Trump loves Russians -

and Russians love Trump

 

[jc456]

Or is this just another of a myriad of double standards set before us by the Dims?

For the sake of argument, let's say Mueller if finally able to prove it.

Is meddling in foreign elections a impeachable offense?

If so, should Obama have been impeached for this meddling abroad in other countries elections?

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

Or how about Obama trying to influence the primary elections in his own party by sending his goons to Bill Clinton to pay off the opposition to drop out?

Sestak: Bill Clinton offered him job to quit race

Or what about Hillary colluding with the Ukrainian government to win the election?

Team Hillary Colluded With Ukraine - Hannity: "Where's the Outrage?" - VIDEO

I see nothing wrong with us meddling in foreign elections. If a politician asks us to sabotage his country’s election and we do, then that guy’s opponents should hunt him down mercilessly. But I wouldn’t bat an eye about it. Just like how Russians have no problem with Putin installing Trump.

was your vote changed?

 

[Geaux4it]

Funny how the narrative keeps shifting...

We've gone from "no contact with Russians" to "no collusion with Russia" to "meh, so what"?

But did you have issue with Obama meddling in the election in Israel?

-Geaux

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

Update: President Obama on Thursday slapped Russia with new penalties for meddling in the U.S. presidential election, kicking out dozens of suspected spies and imposing banking restrictions on five people and four organizations the administration says were involved.

The CIA has accused Russia of interfering in the 2016 presidential election by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails. But critics might point out the U.S. has done similar things.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
-----------------------------------------------

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Bags of cash delivered to a Rome hotel for favored Italian candidates. Scandalous stories leaked to foreign newspapers to swing an election in Nicaragua. Millions of pamphlets, posters and stickers printed to defeat an incumbent in Serbia.

The long arm of Vladimir Putin? No, just a small sample of the United States’ history of intervention in foreign elections.

On Tuesday, American intelligence chiefs warned the Senate Intelligence Committee that Russia appears to be preparing to repeat in the 2018 midterm elections the same full-on chicanery it unleashed in 2016: hacking, leaking, social media manipulation and possibly more. Then on Friday, Robert Mueller, the special counsel, announced the indictments of 13 Russians and three companies, run by a businessman with close Kremlin ties, laying out in astonishing detail a three-year scheme to use social media to attack Hillary Clinton, boost Donald Trump and sow discord.

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Most Americans are understandably shocked by what they view as an unprecedented attack on our political system. But intelligence veterans, and scholars who have studied covert operations, have a different, and quite revealing, view.

DERP DERP DERP ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Israel is our ally

Russia isnt our ally

see the difference Gomer ?

lol... Obama sure knew how to treat his cough....... cough.... allies

He despised Netanyahu and his black side naturally hates Jews

-Geaux

not as much as Trump loves Russians -

and Russians love Trump

Now, Obama really loved the Russians..... flexibility and all. Plus, he let Romney know they are not a threat, to go back to the 80's lol

-Geaux
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[Brain357]

Or is this just another of a myriad of double standards set before us by the Dims?

For the sake of argument, let's say Mueller if finally able to prove it.

Is meddling in foreign elections a impeachable offense?

If so, should Obama have been impeached for this meddling abroad in other countries elections?

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

Or how about Obama trying to influence the primary elections in his own party by sending his goons to Bill Clinton to pay off the opposition to drop out?

Sestak: Bill Clinton offered him job to quit race

Or what about Hillary colluding with the Ukrainian government to win the election?

Team Hillary Colluded With Ukraine - Hannity: "Where's the Outrage?" - VIDEO

Meddling in other countries didn’t damage my voting rights.

 

[Brain357]

Funny how the narrative keeps shifting...

We've gone from "no contact with Russians" to "no collusion with Russia" to "meh, so what"?

But did you have issue with Obama meddling in the election in Israel?

-Geaux

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

Update: President Obama on Thursday slapped Russia with new penalties for meddling in the U.S. presidential election, kicking out dozens of suspected spies and imposing banking restrictions on five people and four organizations the administration says were involved.

The CIA has accused Russia of interfering in the 2016 presidential election by hacking into Democratic and Republican computer networks and selectively releasing emails. But critics might point out the U.S. has done similar things.

The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it's done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
-----------------------------------------------

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Bags of cash delivered to a Rome hotel for favored Italian candidates. Scandalous stories leaked to foreign newspapers to swing an election in Nicaragua. Millions of pamphlets, posters and stickers printed to defeat an incumbent in Serbia.

The long arm of Vladimir Putin? No, just a small sample of the United States’ history of intervention in foreign elections.

On Tuesday, American intelligence chiefs warned the Senate Intelligence Committee that Russia appears to be preparing to repeat in the 2018 midterm elections the same full-on chicanery it unleashed in 2016: hacking, leaking, social media manipulation and possibly more. Then on Friday, Robert Mueller, the special counsel, announced the indictments of 13 Russians and three companies, run by a businessman with close Kremlin ties, laying out in astonishing detail a three-year scheme to use social media to attack Hillary Clinton, boost Donald Trump and sow discord.

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Most Americans are understandably shocked by what they view as an unprecedented attack on our political system. But intelligence veterans, and scholars who have studied covert operations, have a different, and quite revealing, view.

DERP DERP DERP ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Israel is our ally

Russia isnt our ally

see the difference Gomer ?

lol... Obama sure knew how to treat his cough....... cough.... allies

He despised Netanyahu and his black side naturally hates Jews

-Geaux

not as much as Trump loves Russians -

and Russians love Trump

Now, Obama really loved the Russians..... flexibility and all. Plus, he let Romney know they are not a threat, to go back to the 80's lol

-Geaux
-----------

He sure got that wrong eh?

 

[Votto]

Or is this just another of a myriad of double standards set before us by the Dims?

For the sake of argument, let's say Mueller if finally able to prove it.

Is meddling in foreign elections a impeachable offense?

If so, should Obama have been impeached for this meddling abroad in other countries elections?

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

Or how about Obama trying to influence the primary elections in his own party by sending his goons to Bill Clinton to pay off the opposition to drop out?

Sestak: Bill Clinton offered him job to quit race

Or what about Hillary colluding with the Ukrainian government to win the election?

Team Hillary Colluded With Ukraine - Hannity: "Where's the Outrage?" - VIDEO

I see nothing wrong with us meddling in foreign elections. If a politician asks us to sabotage his country’s election and we do, then that guy’s opponents should hunt him down mercilessly. But I wouldn’t bat an eye about it. Just like how Russians have no problem with Putin installing Trump.

The US topples regimes, like Obama did in Libya, why not elections?

 

[Votto]

We've been warned real good that a certain foreign government is doing its best to influence how we vote. It is up to us to look at all claims and trust only reliable, verifiable sources. It behooves us to remember that we are all Americans and politics should not rise above our obligation as citizens to respect each other's right to their own opinion. If we don't, we're stupid sheep.

So I guess no, I'm not really worried, unless a foreign government is pumping in a bunch of money or cutting deals with candidates. That should be rooted out, but since I don't work for any political campaigns, I have to trust that others will say no to that.

Well guess what, all governments meddle. That's what they do. It's not like they have a job or anything else to do.

 

[kwc57]

Or is this just another of a myriad of double standards set before us by the Dims?

For the sake of argument, let's say Mueller if finally able to prove it.

Is meddling in foreign elections a impeachable offense?

If so, should Obama have been impeached for this meddling abroad in other countries elections?

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

Or how about Obama trying to influence the primary elections in his own party by sending his goons to Bill Clinton to pay off the opposition to drop out?

Sestak: Bill Clinton offered him job to quit race

Or what about Hillary colluding with the Ukrainian government to win the election?

Team Hillary Colluded With Ukraine - Hannity: "Where's the Outrage?" - VIDEO

I see nothing wrong with us meddling in foreign elections. If a politician asks us to sabotage his country’s election and we do, then that guy’s opponents should hunt him down mercilessly. But I wouldn’t bat an eye about it. Just like how Russians have no problem with Putin installing Trump.

Please tell me you aren't stoopid enough to base your vote on a handful of poorly crafted Ruskie memes. I voted with my eyes wide open.

 

[OldLady]

We've been warned real good that a certain foreign government is doing its best to influence how we vote. It is up to us to look at all claims and trust only reliable, verifiable sources. It behooves us to remember that we are all Americans and politics should not rise above our obligation as citizens to respect each other's right to their own opinion. If we don't, we're stupid sheep.

So I guess no, I'm not really worried, unless a foreign government is pumping in a bunch of money or cutting deals with candidates. That should be rooted out, but since I don't work for any political campaigns, I have to trust that others will say no to that.

Well guess what, all governments meddle. That's what they do. It's not like they have a job or anything else to do.

Doesn't make it right, though, does it? And I do NOT want my vote influenced by slanted or fake news from a hostile foreign power. Caveat emptor, as far as that goes; I can handle it.

Sounds like you're okay with it though. Why?

 

[Votto]

We've been warned real good that a certain foreign government is doing its best to influence how we vote. It is up to us to look at all claims and trust only reliable, verifiable sources. It behooves us to remember that we are all Americans and politics should not rise above our obligation as citizens to respect each other's right to their own opinion. If we don't, we're stupid sheep.

So I guess no, I'm not really worried, unless a foreign government is pumping in a bunch of money or cutting deals with candidates. That should be rooted out, but since I don't work for any political campaigns, I have to trust that others will say no to that.

Well guess what, all governments meddle. That's what they do. It's not like they have a job or anything else to do.

Doesn't make it right, though, does it? And I do NOT want my vote influenced by slanted or fake news from a hostile foreign power. Caveat emptor, as far as that goes; I can handle it.

Sounds like you're okay with it though. Why?

What does government do "right"?

They are dirty in pretty much everything they do. Take Social Security, for example. The only reason it's there is so politicians can steal from it.

 

[sparky]

What does government do "right"?

It bullsh*ts us all rather well

~S~

 

[Wyatt earp]

Funny how the narrative keeps shifting...

We've gone from "no contact with Russians" to "no collusion with Russia" to "meh, so what"?

you left out the Right bitching about Clinton colluding with Russians -

So you finnaly admit it... glad to see you got your head out of your ass.

 

[Markymark11]

Or is this just another of a myriad of double standards set before us by the Dims?

For the sake of argument, let's say Mueller if finally able to prove it.

Is meddling in foreign elections a impeachable offense?

If so, should Obama have been impeached for this meddling abroad in other countries elections?

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

Or how about Obama trying to influence the primary elections in his own party by sending his goons to Bill Clinton to pay off the opposition to drop out?

Sestak: Bill Clinton offered him job to quit race

Or what about Hillary colluding with the Ukrainian government to win the election?

Team Hillary Colluded With Ukraine - Hannity: "Where's the Outrage?" - VIDEO

I see nothing wrong with us meddling in foreign elections. If a politician asks us to sabotage his country’s election and we do, then that guy’s opponents should hunt him down mercilessly. But I wouldn’t bat an eye about it. Just like how Russians have no problem with Putin installing Trump.

And where is the proof Putin installed Trump?

All the Russian money, articles, and ads that were intended to boost Trump, the multiple indictments, the multiple guilty pleas... and that’s with the investigation just warming up.

Your delusion runs deep my friend. You sound like leftist Alex Jones