Does Capitalism Ensure Freedom?

Yes, the USA has interfered in the economies and politics of our countries

To say differently is to lose cred on the board forever.
 
How well did capitalism preserve and promote capitalism in Central America?
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Happy 4th?
That's a stupid cartoon and reveals your ignorance. No other countries have been blocked by the US. We don't have the authority.
"Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973"
Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973
"Revelations that President Richard Nixon had ordered the CIA to 'make the economy scream' in Chile to 'prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him,' prompted a major scandal in the mid-1970s, and a major investigation by the U.S. Senate. Since the coup, however, few U.S. documents relating to Chile have been actually declassified- -until recently.

"Through Freedom of Information Act requests, and other avenues of declassification, the National Security Archive has been able to compile a collection of declassified records that shed light on events in Chile between 1970 and 1976.
Huh? You post bullshit cartoons then sling more shit to cover it up?
 
Yes, the USA has interfered in the economies and politics of our countries

To say differently is to lose cred on the board forever.

the, "our" part confuses me but ... okay

That's like a day, right?
 
Progressive nonsense written by an elitist who is part of an academic caste hierarchy.
An academic caste determined by merit and not by birth.
Richard D. Wolff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Wolff earned a BA magna cum laude in history from Harvard in 1963 and moved on to Stanford—he attained a MA in economics in 1964—to study with Paul A. Baran. Baran died prematurely from a heart attack in 1964 and Wolff transferred to Yale University, where he received a MA in economics in 1966, MA in history in 1967, and a PhD in economics in 1969. As a graduate student at Yale, Wolff worked as an instructor.[1] His dissertation, 'The Economics of Colonialism: Britain and Kenya',[10] was eventually published in book form in 1974."


B'loney. Elite Academia is one of the most political systems in the country.
If you're a professor of Marxist Economics, the politics of elite academia don't work to your advantage. In fact, the only economics being taught at elite institutions barely mentions Marx or Historical Economics in general.
 
Progressive nonsense written by an elitist who is part of an academic caste hierarchy.
An academic caste determined by merit and not by birth.
Richard D. Wolff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Wolff earned a BA magna cum laude in history from Harvard in 1963 and moved on to Stanford—he attained a MA in economics in 1964—to study with Paul A. Baran. Baran died prematurely from a heart attack in 1964 and Wolff transferred to Yale University, where he received a MA in economics in 1966, MA in history in 1967, and a PhD in economics in 1969. As a graduate student at Yale, Wolff worked as an instructor.[1] His dissertation, 'The Economics of Colonialism: Britain and Kenya',[10] was eventually published in book form in 1974."


B'loney. Elite Academia is one of the most political systems in the country.
If you're a professor of Marxist Economics, the politics of elite academia don't work to your advantage. In fact, the only economics being taught at elite institutions barely mentions Marx or Historical Economics in general.
Nothing you say is true.
 
How well did capitalism preserve and promote capitalism in Central America?
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carlos-latuff-cuba-embargo.jpg

Happy 4th?
That's a stupid cartoon and reveals your ignorance. No other countries have been blocked by the US. We don't have the authority.
"Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973"
Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973
"Revelations that President Richard Nixon had ordered the CIA to 'make the economy scream' in Chile to 'prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him,' prompted a major scandal in the mid-1970s, and a major investigation by the U.S. Senate. Since the coup, however, few U.S. documents relating to Chile have been actually declassified- -until recently.

"Through Freedom of Information Act requests, and other avenues of declassification, the National Security Archive has been able to compile a collection of declassified records that shed light on events in Chile between 1970 and 1976.
Huh? You post bullshit cartoons then sling more shit to cover it up?
You made the absurd claim "no other countries have been blocked by the US" and I pointed out how Chile was treated by Nixon and Kissinger. You could study what's happening today in Venezuela if you require further examples.

Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World, remember?
It's not always bullets and bombs.
 
That's a stupid cartoon and reveals your ignorance. No other countries have been blocked by the US. We don't have the authority.
"Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973"
Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973
"Revelations that President Richard Nixon had ordered the CIA to 'make the economy scream' in Chile to 'prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him,' prompted a major scandal in the mid-1970s, and a major investigation by the U.S. Senate. Since the coup, however, few U.S. documents relating to Chile have been actually declassified- -until recently.

"Through Freedom of Information Act requests, and other avenues of declassification, the National Security Archive has been able to compile a collection of declassified records that shed light on events in Chile between 1970 and 1976.
Huh? You post bullshit cartoons then sling more shit to cover it up?
You made the absurd claim "no other countries have been blocked by the US" and I pointed out how Chile was treated by Nixon and Kissinger. You could study what's happening today in Venezuela if you require further examples.

Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World, remember?
It's not always bullets and bombs.
We were talking about Cuba, you can't follow simple conversations.
 
The U.S. system is one of equality before the law, not equality of circumstances and outcomes.
The US legal system guarantees equality of opportunity.
Equality of Opportunity (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)


First published in 2002 by a Progressive Elite Academic Institution.

Please cite something from the Federalist Papers that says that the purpose of our government is to ensure equality of opportunity according the Progressive Definition of the government choosing winners and losers.
 
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Progressive nonsense written by an elitist who is part of an academic caste hierarchy.
An academic caste determined by merit and not by birth.
Richard D. Wolff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Wolff earned a BA magna cum laude in history from Harvard in 1963 and moved on to Stanford—he attained a MA in economics in 1964—to study with Paul A. Baran. Baran died prematurely from a heart attack in 1964 and Wolff transferred to Yale University, where he received a MA in economics in 1966, MA in history in 1967, and a PhD in economics in 1969. As a graduate student at Yale, Wolff worked as an instructor.[1] His dissertation, 'The Economics of Colonialism: Britain and Kenya',[10] was eventually published in book form in 1974."


B'loney. Elite Academia is one of the most political systems in the country.
If you're a professor of Marxist Economics, the politics of elite academia don't work to your advantage. In fact, the only economics being taught at elite institutions barely mentions Marx or Historical Economics in general.


B'loney. The politics of Elite Academia reward leftwing people. Just look at the ratio of Progs to Conseratives among tenured faculty. Socialism is a cronyist system in which people with political connections feed off of those without political connections. Perfect for Elite Academia.
 
Unless the OP can name a better economic system this thread is EPIC FAIL.
 
Please cite something from the Federalist Papers that says that the purpose of our government is to ensure equality of opportunity according the Progressive Definition of the government choosing winners and losers.
Isn't that like asking me to publish something from the Federalist Papers condemning slavery or ensuring the right of women to vote?

Instead of framing your position in terms of "government choosing winners and losers", you might consider supporting society's attempt to compensate for accidents of birth among its citizens?
 
Unless the OP can name a better economic system this thread is EPIC FAIL.
Richard D. Wolff: Poverty Has Always Accompanied Capitalism
"Why do you see another economic implosion, as we saw in 2008, as inevitable under the current capitalistic economic order in the US?

"While 'inevitable' is not a word or concept I use, my sense of what has happened in and to the US economy sees reason to believe another 2008-like implosion is quite likely. The reason is this: no real changes have been made in US or global capitalism. Corporate capitalism proved strong enough and its critics weak enough to enable the imposition of austerities as the chief policy response everywhere. So the speeding train of capitalism is 'back on track,' resuming its rush toward stone walls of excess debt, stagnant mass incomes, capital relocating overseas, etc. The too-big-to-fail and the too-unequal-to-be-sustained have only become bigger and more unequal. The ominous sense of impending implosion reverberates throughout the national politics and culture."
Worker self-directed enterprises offer a better alternative than the current economic model, imho.
 
RD Wolff is the best known Marxist economist in the US today, and he says capitalism does not serve freedom to the extent its apologists would like you to believe:

Poverty Has Always Accompanied Capitalism


"Capitalism usually overthrew its predecessor system (often feudalism, sometimes slavery or still others) violently and accompanied by slogans of 'freedom' as in the French revolution's 'liberte, egalite, fraternite' or Lincoln's 'Emancipation Proclamation.'

"Capitalism represented itself as freeing serfs, slaves, etc.

"Freedom became capitalism's self-celebration which it largely remains.

"Yet the reality of capitalism is different from its celebratory self-image.

"The mass of employees are not free inside capitalist enterprises to participate in the decisions that affect their lives (e.g., what the enterprise will produce, what technology it will use, where production will occur, and what will be done with the profit workers' efforts help to produce).

"In their exclusion from such decisions, modern capitalism's employees resemble slaves and serfs.

"Yes, parliaments, universal suffrage, etc. have accompanied capitalism - an advance over serfdom and slavery.

"Yet even that advance has been largely undermined by the influence of the highly unequally distributed wealth and income that capitalism has everywhere generated."

Poverty is the goal of socialism...they just want it for everyone but the dear leader and his minions....

Ask Venezuela..........
 
How well did capitalism preserve and promote capitalism in Central America?


Th y didn't have capitalism in Central America...they had communism and crony socialism.........socialism sucks......
 
RD Wolff is the best known Marxist economist in the US today, and he says capitalism does not serve freedom to the extent its apologists would like you to believe:

Poverty Has Always Accompanied Capitalism


"Capitalism usually overthrew its predecessor system (often feudalism, sometimes slavery or still others) violently and accompanied by slogans of 'freedom' as in the French revolution's 'liberte, egalite, fraternite' or Lincoln's 'Emancipation Proclamation.'

"Capitalism represented itself as freeing serfs, slaves, etc.

"Freedom became capitalism's self-celebration which it largely remains.

"Yet the reality of capitalism is different from its celebratory self-image.

"The mass of employees are not free inside capitalist enterprises to participate in the decisions that affect their lives (e.g., what the enterprise will produce, what technology it will use, where production will occur, and what will be done with the profit workers' efforts help to produce).

"In their exclusion from such decisions, modern capitalism's employees resemble slaves and serfs.

"Yes, parliaments, universal suffrage, etc. have accompanied capitalism - an advance over serfdom and slavery.

"Yet even that advance has been largely undermined by the influence of the highly unequally distributed wealth and income that capitalism has everywhere generated."

Poverty is the goal of socialism...they just want it for everyone but the dear leader and his minions....

Ask Venezuela..........
"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman"

Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
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Socialism has never been tried, and it won't succeed until it's practiced in the USA.
 
RD Wolff is the best known Marxist economist in the US today, and he says capitalism does not serve freedom to the extent its apologists would like you to believe:

Poverty Has Always Accompanied Capitalism


"Capitalism usually overthrew its predecessor system (often feudalism, sometimes slavery or still others) violently and accompanied by slogans of 'freedom' as in the French revolution's 'liberte, egalite, fraternite' or Lincoln's 'Emancipation Proclamation.'

"Capitalism represented itself as freeing serfs, slaves, etc.

"Freedom became capitalism's self-celebration which it largely remains.

"Yet the reality of capitalism is different from its celebratory self-image.

"The mass of employees are not free inside capitalist enterprises to participate in the decisions that affect their lives (e.g., what the enterprise will produce, what technology it will use, where production will occur, and what will be done with the profit workers' efforts help to produce).

"In their exclusion from such decisions, modern capitalism's employees resemble slaves and serfs.

"Yes, parliaments, universal suffrage, etc. have accompanied capitalism - an advance over serfdom and slavery.

"Yet even that advance has been largely undermined by the influence of the highly unequally distributed wealth and income that capitalism has everywhere generated."

Poverty is the goal of socialism...they just want it for everyone but the dear leader and his minions....

Ask Venezuela..........
"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman"

Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Socialism has never been tried, and it won't succeed until it's practiced in the USA.


Crony socialism has been tried all over the world...the best outcome is a low standard of living...till you run out of capitalists to tax.......then you get poverty and food shortages..........the worst...100 million people in mass graves.......
 
Please cite something from the Federalist Papers that says that the purpose of our government is to ensure equality of opportunity according the Progressive Definition of the government choosing winners and losers.
Isn't that like asking me to publish something from the Federalist Papers condemning slavery or ensuring the right of women to vote?

Instead of framing your position in terms of "government choosing winners and losers", you might consider supporting society's attempt to compensate for accidents of birth among its citizens?


Compensating for accidents of birth is just Orwellian-speak for picking winners and losers, bub.
 

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