Donald Trump.....Keeping us safe

[Claudette]

Another lamo thread brought to you by a sore loser. LMAO>

What does our presidents tone deaf pronouncement have to do with the election?

Sore loser.

Trump used the same list douchebag used and you didn't seem to have a problem then. In fact he banned Iraqi's for six months. LOL

 

[Fueri]

If your nation hosts a Trump Hotel or Trump Golf Course....you are exempt from the ban


Trump's Muslim ban excludes countries linked to his businesses


Conspicuously, Trump doesn't hold any business interests in any of the countries on the list, but holds major stakes in several of those excluded from it, records show.

Friday’s executive order, signed at the Pentagon, suspends the issuing of U.S. visas or travel permits to people from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

Not a single American was killed on U.S. soil by citizens from any of those countries between 1975 and 2015, according to statistics tallied by the conservative-leaning Cato Institute.

Here is the lie....


Blog: Stunning media malpractice on Trump suspension of entry

The mainstream media are staying in the fake news mode, eager to portray President Trump’s executive order as religious bigotry, calling it a “Muslim ban,” a contention that numerous Democrat pols like Elizabeth Warren make when such language is nowhere found in the text of the order.

Seth Frantzen explains that only Syria is mentioned in the order and that it was the Obama administration that first listed the other countries as terror risks:

But, wait a sec. I read the order and Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen are not mentioned in it.

Go back and read it again. Do a “ctrl-f” to find “Iraq”. Where is “Iraq” in the order. It’s not there. Only Syria is there. So where are the seven nations? Where is the “Muslim ban”? It turns out this was a form of fake news, or alternative facts. Trump didn’t select seven “Muslim-majority” countries. US President Barack Obama’s administration selected these seven Muslim-majority countries.

He goes on to document this contention.

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern.

In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.”


It noted “the three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals.” It was the US policy under Obama to restrict and target people “who have been present in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).”

In the end, it is common sense to exclude populations that harbor murderous jihadis that want to kill us. All the media hysteria and demonstrations cannot persuade me that we have an obligation to host such populations.

It is being painted as a Muslim ban by the left because polling shows more negative reaction to a ban based on religion.

In other words, it's typical spin/bullshit.

Will Trump’s Refugee Ban Have Public Support?

It is a Muslim ban

Trumps original plan was to ban all Muslims. He stated it many times
However, he was told that would be unconstitutional

So he went to Plan B which was to only ban people from some Muslim countries. You can discriminate against countries but not religions

Ask Muslims in this country if they think it is a Muslim ban.
Ask Muslims around the world if they think it is a Muslim ban
Ask racist Trump supporters if they think it is a Muslim ban

Nonsense. no it is not.

is that what he likely wanted? maybe, probably, but within the limits of the law he could not do that.

this is a dem talking point and nothing more.

 

[2aguy]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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Don't like to count all the terror attacks in Europe, eh? Guess we don't want to learn the lessons from Europe.

The Muslim population in this country is different than the Muslim population in Europe. They are wealthier, better educated and have assimilated better here than in Europe

Again, Trump is fear mongering against Muslims in general and is enacting a solution where there is no problem




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You know...except for those muslims who murdered Americans in San Bernadino, Fort Hood, Orlando., Boston....and those who have given support to isis over seas........

 

[2aguy]

If your nation hosts a Trump Hotel or Trump Golf Course....you are exempt from the ban


Trump's Muslim ban excludes countries linked to his businesses

That is a lie.....-Trumps order only mentioned Syria...the rest of the countries were banned under obama.....nice lie though, that lie is going around the internet...I posted a thread about it earlier today....

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

The 7 nations were put on the list by Obama is true, the half-truth by the trump administration, in reality, the lie by omission of the trump cabal - is this: Those Europeans who traveled to one of these seven countries are those who are to be closely watched, not native of those countries.

Moron......as I have pointed out elsewhere...there are 50 majority muslim countries in the world...7 have been targeted by obama...yes, obama and the intelligence community as threats to the U.S. because of terrorism.......if you are Indonesian and muslim....walk right in...moron.....if you are Indian, and muslim...walk right in....moron....

there were 325,000 foreigners arriving in our country this weekend...129 were stopped under Trumps orders, all except 24 were sent on their way......

moron.

 

[rightwinger]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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Don't like to count all the terror attacks in Europe, eh? Guess we don't want to learn the lessons from Europe.

The Muslim population in this country is different than the Muslim population in Europe. They are wealthier, better educated and have assimilated better here than in Europe

Again, Trump is fear mongering against Muslims in general and is enacting a solution where there is no problem




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You know...except for those muslims who murdered Americans in San Bernadino, Fort Hood, Orlando., Boston....and those who have given support to isis over seas........

What countries were they from?

Yea...Trump is "keeping us safe"

 

[Claudette]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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Don't like to count all the terror attacks in Europe, eh? Guess we don't want to learn the lessons from Europe.

The Muslim population in this country is different than the Muslim population in Europe. They are wealthier, better educated and have assimilated better here than in Europe

Again, Trump is fear mongering against Muslims in general and is enacting a solution where there is no problem




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You know...except for those muslims who murdered Americans in San Bernadino, Fort Hood, Orlando., Boston....and those who have given support to isis over seas........

What countries were they from?

Yea...Trump is "keeping us safe"

Yup. He sure is.

 

[BlindBoo]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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Don't like to count all the terror attacks in Europe, eh? Guess we don't want to learn the lessons from Europe.

Europe let in a lot of non vetted refugees. We didn't.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I notice the Trump supporters are afraid of this thread.

Not even the Mistress of Spin, Kellyann is going to be able to worm her way around all of the Gropenfuhrer's conflicts of interest. The cultists will try though...

Gropenfuhrer's

 

[2aguy]

Former Bush CIA Director: Trump Executive Order 'Inarguably Has Made Us Less Safe'
Source: Mediaite

National security experts, including the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency under President George W. Bush, criticized Donald Trump‘s executive order banning immigration from seven Muslim countries as damaging to the security of the United States.

“We’ve got good people who will work hard at it, but there is no question that this has already created an irretrievable cost,” Michael Hayden told The Washington Post Sunday.

The executive order, he said, has “inarguably has made us less safe. It has taken draconian measures against a threat that was hyped. The byproduct is it feeds the Islamic militant narrative and makes it harder for our allies to side with us.”

Hayden did not support Trump during the 2016 election and has leveled similar charges before. “The jihadist narrative is that there is undying enmity between Islam and the modern world so when Trump says they all hate us, he’s using their narrative… he’s feeding their recruitment video,” he said last May.

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Read more: Former Bush CIA Director: Trump Executive Order ‘Inarguably Has Made Us Less Safe’

Merkel 'explains' refugee convention to Trump in phone call
German chancellor speaks to president amid international anger over US ban on people from seven Muslim countries
Merkel 'explained' convention to Trump in phone call


Donald Trump speaks to Angela Merkel on the phone in the Oval Office on Saturday. Photograph: Michael Reynolds/EPA


Sam Jones and Philip Oltermann

Sunday 29 January 2017 11.45 EST Last modified on Monday 30 January 2017 08.59 EST

Donald Trump’s executive order to halt travel from seven Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia – has provoked a wave of concern and condemnation from international leaders and politicians.

A spokesman for Angela Merkel said the German chancellor regretted Trump’s decision to ban citizens of certain countries from entering the US, adding that she had “explained” the obligations of the refugee convention to the new president in a phone call on Saturday.

Hey, genius....aren't you the assholes who keep telling us that Bush's CIA lied us into a war with Iraq....and now you want us to believe this guy has credibility....really?

 

[BlindBoo]

Former Bush CIA Director: Trump Executive Order 'Inarguably Has Made Us Less Safe'
Source: Mediaite

National security experts, including the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency under President George W. Bush, criticized Donald Trump‘s executive order banning immigration from seven Muslim countries as damaging to the security of the United States.

“We’ve got good people who will work hard at it, but there is no question that this has already created an irretrievable cost,” Michael Hayden told The Washington Post Sunday.

The executive order, he said, has “inarguably has made us less safe. It has taken draconian measures against a threat that was hyped. The byproduct is it feeds the Islamic militant narrative and makes it harder for our allies to side with us.”

Hayden did not support Trump during the 2016 election and has leveled similar charges before. “The jihadist narrative is that there is undying enmity between Islam and the modern world so when Trump says they all hate us, he’s using their narrative… he’s feeding their recruitment video,” he said last May.

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Read more: Former Bush CIA Director: Trump Executive Order ‘Inarguably Has Made Us Less Safe’

Merkel 'explains' refugee convention to Trump in phone call
German chancellor speaks to president amid international anger over US ban on people from seven Muslim countries
Merkel 'explained' convention to Trump in phone call


Donald Trump speaks to Angela Merkel on the phone in the Oval Office on Saturday. Photograph: Michael Reynolds/EPA


Sam Jones and Philip Oltermann

Sunday 29 January 2017 11.45 EST Last modified on Monday 30 January 2017 08.59 EST

Donald Trump’s executive order to halt travel from seven Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia – has provoked a wave of concern and condemnation from international leaders and politicians.

A spokesman for Angela Merkel said the German chancellor regretted Trump’s decision to ban citizens of certain countries from entering the US, adding that she had “explained” the obligations of the refugee convention to the new president in a phone call on Saturday.

Hey, genius....aren't you the assholes who keep telling us that Bush's CIA lied us into a war with Iraq....and now you want us to believe this guy has credibility....really?

The Bush Administration ignored all CIA evidence that didn't support their goal of removing Saddam.

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is affirming the worst we have all feared he would be


His "solutions" are simplistic and have not been vetted with his own staff and our allies. He acts on a whim without considering the consequences of his actions

But we elected the man and have only ourselves to blame for getting the person we knew we would

 

[Tom Horn]

Meanwhile the pity party continues......let us know when you reach the "acceptance" stage of your grief.

 

[Tom Horn]

The Bush Administration ignored all CIA evidence that didn't support their goal of removing Saddam.

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq

Saddam's generals were convinced there was a nuclear program....just how close to intel sources do you think the CIA can get?

 

[Rocko]

It's only a temporary ban so we can improve vetting. It should be permanent, and it should be extended to all Muslim countries.

 

[protectionist]

ALL Muslims should be banned from entering the US, and we should be doing all we can to get rid of all the ones that are here now, with just a few exceptions.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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That just doesn't make for good reality TV, rwinger. Donnie needs good T.V.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

ALL Muslims should be banned from entering the US, and we should be doing all we can to get rid of all the ones that are here now, with just a few exceptions.

And you thought OBAMA was butchering the Constitution. Hold on to your itty, bitty jockstrap, honey. You ain't seen nothing yet.

 

[protectionist]

And you thought OBAMA was butchering the Constitution. Hold on to your itty, bitty jockstrap, honey. You ain't seen nothing yet.

What are you talking about ?

 

[Bigdanthegumoutman]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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If we are not going to allow people from these countries why are we in theirs

 

[miketx]

No Americans have been killed by people from the seven countries banned by our president since 9-11. 9-11 was conducted by Saudis and Egyptians....two countries exempt from Trumps ban

Trump Travel Ban Nations Liable For 7 Percent Of Muslim Terrorists, NO Fatalities

Those seven nations — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — have produced 7 percent of all the Muslim terrorists who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States since September 2001.

Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

Thus, countries unaffected by Trump’s travel ban have produced 93 percent of the perpetrators of terror attacks — and all of the deaths from terror attacks — in the United States in the last 15 years.

Of these seven countries, only Iran and Somalia have produced anyone who has perpetrated an act of terrorism in the United States.






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You must want Americans to be killed first before we restrict their travel here. Good move.