Drones - its a method - who cares?

[OohPooPahDoo]

Drones - its a method - who cares?

If its illegal and/or morally wrong to kill someone - then its illegal and/or morally wrong to kil them. It doesn't matter how they were killed, does it?

On the other hand - if its legal and/or morally right to kill someone - such as legitimate military targets - then why is it wrong to use a method which places U.S. servicemen at a minimal risk?


Seems to me that the same folks who were fine with us setting Baghdad on fire using smart bombs and - at the same time - placing U.S. pilots at risk - are against using unmanned aircraft to conduct more surgical strikes of military targets. Do you guys want U.S. servicemen to die, or do you just hate Obama?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Drones - its a method - who cares?

If its illegal and/or morally wrong to kill someone - then its illegal and/or morally wrong to kil them. It doesn't matter how they were killed, does it?

On the other hand - if its legal and/or morally right to kill someone - such as legitimate military targets - then why is it wrong to use a method which places U.S. servicemen at a minimal risk?


Seems to me that the same folks who were fine with us setting Baghdad on fire using smart bombs and - at the same time - placing U.S. pilots at risk - are against using unmanned aircraft to conduct more surgical strikes of military targets. Do you guys want U.S. servicemen to die, or do you just hate Obama?

They hate Obama. If Obama says, "Up" the Right Wing Media immediately says, "Down!!!"; then the echo chamber (including many Republican Members of Congress) parrot ("Down, down, down) until the next faux crisis.

Under the Bush Administration those killed during the occupation of Iraq were returned home in secret. The RW thought this was fine and a benefit to the fallen's family. Today the RW goes hysterical over the deaths of four American's in Benghazi and punctuates their hysteria with graphic details on how the Ambassador died and under what circumstances with total disregard for his family.

 

[tjvh]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Well, look who doesn't understand! I'm shocked!

 

[Truthseeker420]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

when Bush invaded?

 

[Ava]

Yeah, the Left wants to hurry up and forget about it all. What does it matter, anyway, that they lied about why it happened and decided to cover it up. I think of the families of the deceased, who would be alive today if we had done as Britain did, that fateful day, and remove our men from their posts or send in additional security. The English cares about their own.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3XTOjZPfg]SHOCK! Hillary Clinton argues - What difference, at this point, does it make about how it happened? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[tinydancer]

Drone kills for libs : YAY! Obama is killing innocent civilians at 50 to 1. No problemo.

Water boarding for libs: Bush is a monster for water boarding known terrorists

Hypocrisy: thy name is Democrat.

 

[Freewill]

Drones - its a method - who cares?

If its illegal and/or morally wrong to kill someone - then its illegal and/or morally wrong to kil them. It doesn't matter how they were killed, does it?

On the other hand - if its legal and/or morally right to kill someone - such as legitimate military targets - then why is it wrong to use a method which places U.S. servicemen at a minimal risk?


Seems to me that the same folks who were fine with us setting Baghdad on fire using smart bombs and - at the same time - placing U.S. pilots at risk - are against using unmanned aircraft to conduct more surgical strikes of military targets. Do you guys want U.S. servicemen to die, or do you just hate Obama?

They hate Obama. If Obama says, "Up" the Right Wing Media immediately says, "Down!!!"; then the echo chamber (including many Republican Members of Congress) parrot ("Down, down, down) until the next faux crisis.

Under the Bush Administration those killed during the occupation of Iraq were returned home in secret. The RW thought this was fine and a benefit to the fallen's family. Today the RW goes hysterical over the deaths of four American's in Benghazi and punctuates their hysteria with graphic details on how the Ambassador died and under what circumstances with total disregard for his family.

FY and your rants about hate. Stop your damn projection. Do you really believe that if Hillary won the election and did the same as Obama the criticism would be different? You are such an ass, there are still troops being sent home from Afghanistan you are the one forgetting. No more do we hear from the left wing about flag drapped coffins. You people are the hypocrites. YOU people are the ones that use our fighting men as political pawns.

Get it through you thick liberal head, BENGHAZI IS DIFFERENT.

 

[Freewill]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

when Bush invaded?

Bush invaded Pakistan? Are you for real?

 

[NYcarbineer]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

So you support Al Qaeda having instant safe havens simply by putting themselves in proximity to children?

 

[NLT]

Drones is cool with libs as long as obama is in charge.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Drone kills for libs : YAY! Obama is killing innocent civilians at 50 to 1. No problemo.

Water boarding for libs: Bush is a monster for water boarding known terrorists

Hypocrisy: thy name is Democrat.

Tell us your better plan for fighting Al Qaeda.

 

[Kondor3]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

We didn't.

But children in the Waziristan province of Pakistan sometimes get hurt if they are too close to an al-Qaeda or Taliban leader or safe-house or operating-base that we target with drones or commandos or other military assets, because the Government of Pakistan cannot (or will not) destroy it or them on their own. Unfortunate. Regretable. Likely to continue, unless the Pakistanis get their act together and rid their province of such a presence, themselves.

Both Bush II and Obama have used drones extensively, right? How is this partisan?

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IMHO: Anything that (a) kills America's enemies in asymmetrical warfare but (b) spares American military lives and (c) minimizes collateral damage and casualties (as opposed to carpet bombing, for example) gets a 'yes' vote in my book.
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[candycorn]

Drones - its a method - who cares?

If its illegal and/or morally wrong to kill someone - then its illegal and/or morally wrong to kil them. It doesn't matter how they were killed, does it?

On the other hand - if its legal and/or morally right to kill someone - such as legitimate military targets - then why is it wrong to use a method which places U.S. servicemen at a minimal risk?


Seems to me that the same folks who were fine with us setting Baghdad on fire using smart bombs and - at the same time - placing U.S. pilots at risk - are against using unmanned aircraft to conduct more surgical strikes of military targets. Do you guys want U.S. servicemen to die, or do you just hate Obama?

They hate Obama. If Obama says, "Up" the Right Wing Media immediately says, "Down!!!"; then the echo chamber (including many Republican Members of Congress) parrot ("Down, down, down) until the next faux crisis.

Under the Bush Administration those killed during the occupation of Iraq were returned home in secret. The RW thought this was fine and a benefit to the fallen's family. Today the RW goes hysterical over the deaths of four American's in Benghazi and punctuates their hysteria with graphic details on how the Ambassador died and under what circumstances with total disregard for his family.

Absolutely right...

It's a right wing reflex to oppose anything that Obama does. I'm shocked that there haven't been anti-smoking campaigns that go something like, "The President Smokes, do you want to be like him?" run in red states.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Drones is cool with libs as long as obama is in charge.

I supported going after al qaeda with drones before I knew how drones even worked.

 

[candycorn]

Drone kills for libs : YAY! Obama is killing innocent civilians at 50 to 1. No problemo.

Water boarding for libs: Bush is a monster for water boarding known terrorists

Hypocrisy: thy name is Democrat.

Tell us your better plan for fighting Al Qaeda.

Are you aware of any liberal-started pro waterboarding threads?

 

[ClosedCaption]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

Collateral Damage has been wiped from the rights memory since 2008

 

[Truthseeker420]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

when Bush invaded?

Bush invaded Pakistan? Are you for real?

I'm not sure why it matters which country a child is from...but did you not see the protests against Bush for military operations in Pakistan?

 

[Freewill]

Drones - its a method - who cares?

If its illegal and/or morally wrong to kill someone - then its illegal and/or morally wrong to kil them. It doesn't matter how they were killed, does it?

On the other hand - if its legal and/or morally right to kill someone - such as legitimate military targets - then why is it wrong to use a method which places U.S. servicemen at a minimal risk?


Seems to me that the same folks who were fine with us setting Baghdad on fire using smart bombs and - at the same time - placing U.S. pilots at risk - are against using unmanned aircraft to conduct more surgical strikes of military targets. Do you guys want U.S. servicemen to die, or do you just hate Obama?

As usual the left wing engages in hyperbole and Reductio ad absurdum. No one was fine with setting Baghdad on fire because we didn't set Baghdad on fire. The war was quick and done with minimum loss of civilian life. Granted that is not the liberal story line but that does not make it untrue.

What apparently is the liberal's good idea is to kill as many as possible and let God sort them out. The only thing surgical about drone strikes is there usually is only one missile fired. One that is until the responders arrive then we send them a little something something. Did you know we were doing that? Attacking not only the target but the first responders? If you say no it is funny because it is in the Huffington Post.

Now your premise starts out with, is it legal. What makes it legal to kill Americans in Yemen and Pakistan? Both are sovereign nations that are supposedly our allies. What if the Arabs, or anyone else, had the ability to launch a predatory drone hellfire missile. What if they knew of a five star general having coffee in a coffee shop in Washington. They do a surgical strike and take out the general and 10 others who were in the facinity, would you say that was just a legal act of war?

What if they took out an American having lunch with his cousin who none of were terrorist? Obama did it. What if we killed an innocent civilian who was targeted by someone just to collect the reward? Obama did it.

The Legality of War: Pakistani Court Rules CIA Drone Strikes Constitute a War Crime

Now the howls from the left about GWB being a war criminal for water boarding, how about now, an ally country, IN COURT, has declared what Obama is doing to be a war crime. How about you?

Here is more, read don't be a low information voter:

Obama terror drones: CIA tactics in Pakistan include targeting rescuers and funerals

But research by the Bureau has found that since Obama took office three years ago, between 282 and 535 civilians have been credibly reported as killed including more than 60 children. A three month investigation including eye witness reports has found evidence that at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims. More than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners. The tactics have been condemned by leading legal experts.

Although the drone attacks were started under the Bush administration in 2004, they have been stepped up enormously under Obama.

There have been 260 attacks by unmanned Predators or Reapers in Pakistan by Obama’s administration – averaging one every four days. Because the attacks are carried out by the CIA, no information is given on the numbers killed.

 

[tjvh]

When exactly did America go to war with children in Pakistan?

So you support Al Qaeda having instant safe havens simply by putting themselves in proximity to children?

Please tell me how you got all that out of that one sentence?