Economics 101

Not for Reagan. As you can see from the chart, GDP fell from St Ronnie's 1981tax cuts and rose after Reagan started raising taxes in 1982.

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Following enactment in August 1981, the first 5% of the 25% total cuts took place beginning in October. An additional 10% began in July 1982, followed by a third decrease of 10% beginning in July 1983.[4]

Thanks. I always enjoy it when liberals post the refutations of their own claims.

Can you post the chart that shows 7% GDP growth after Obama raised rates?
And I always love it when CON$ lie about what others post. I posted no such thing, YOU did and Reagan's tax cuts never followed that projected schedule.

Following the 1981 tax cuts, as the economy was mired in recession and the federal deficit was spiraling out of control, even groups such as the Business Roundtable lobbied Reagan to raise taxes. And he did:
The first Reagan tax increase came in 1982. By then it was clear that the budget projections used to justify the 1981 tax cut were wildly optimistic. In response, Mr. Reagan agreed to a sharp rollback of corporate tax cuts, and a smaller rollback of individual income tax cuts. Over all, the 1982 tax increase undid about a third of the 1981 cut.

When Obama raised taxes, why didn't he achieve the same GDP growth as Reagan?
Obama's should have been higher, because he's so much smarter than Reagan, so what happened?
Why did Obama have so much fail compared to so much Reagan success?

I am shocked you do not know the reasons. Let me help you, me poor ignorant con tool:
1. Republicans owned the congress and stopped every effort to fight the recession. Voted against bills to fight recession every single time, with every republican congressman voting no. And, they then refused to bring forward a single bill aimed at shortening the recession.
2. They required the only bill that got through, with zero votes from their side, to be over 1/3 tax cuts, which, according to the cbo, had the least effect on the recession of any measures the bill had.
3. Obama came into office while we were seeing losses of over 500,000 jobs per month. And he was left with the largest recession of any new president since the Great Republican Depression of 1929. The recession now known as the Great Republican Recession.
Sorry to blunt your well refined conservative talking point. Try thinking some time.

Republicans owned the congress and stopped every effort to fight the recession.

The recession ended by June 2009. The Republicans didn't take the House until Jan 2011.
How could they stop Obama's "recession fight"?
So, the recession ended 4 months after Obama took office.
Have you always been that stupid, or have you had to work at it.
Truth is, should you be interested, that you could get all sorts of answers about when any recession ended. There is no absolute date. And, always, the last thing fixed is unemployment. At least in any aggregate demand recession. So, your statement is stupid, as it stands. You could surround it with some truth, but you did not.


And, they then refused to bring forward a single bill aimed at shortening the recession.

Bastards! Refusing to fight the recession that ended 18 months before they took over. LOL!
Yup. I agree. Not caring for the fact that unemployment was high, and being uninterested in bringing the ue rate down does make them, and you, bastards. And un-american.

They required the only bill that got through, with zero votes from their side, to be over 1/3 tax cuts, which, according to the cbo, had the least effect on the recession of any measures the bill had.

Yeah, refundable tax credits are one of the weakest tax cuts you can give.
Actually, of the tax cuts provided by the ARRA better than most. But of the total tax cuts, they were a very small portion. And, you will find that cons hated them, because a large portion were aimed at less wealthy, as opposed to most tax cuts that went to the wealthy.
Net is, refundable tax credits were too small to make any real difference. Except to con tools. What I said is absolutely true, and your statement is irrelivent. But thanks for trying.

Obama came into office while we were seeing losses of over 500,000 jobs per month.

And managed to hand us the weakest recovery in history. I thought you said the economy had recovered by June of 2009. Make up your mind.
Actually, Obama made many attempts to help the situation with unemployment. So, let me try to educate you again. No president can mandate programs to stimulate an economy. Takes congress. Which was controlled by republicans. So, though he did bring many bills to congress, republicans voted against every single one. With NO members voting for them. Killed every single bill. And, because republicans did not conscern themselves with the misery of workers being out of work for long periods, they brought NO bills forward to help the ue situation. UNLIKE IN THE REGAN RECESSIONS WHEN DEMOCRATS DID NOT BLOCK ANY OF REAGAN'S ATTEMPTS. AT ALL. See the difference??

Maybe he should have cut tax rates across the board, like Reagan did?
You are on a very, very small island. Most all people have figured out that supply side economics does not work.
Before the reagan years, you could find supply side economics classes in most major colleges. After, you needed to go to Regent University or George Mason U.
 
Reagan benefitted from Carter's policies.
Reagan immediately rid the U.S. of Carter's failed liberal policies. Nice try though.
And the rich got richer and Black Monday.
Nice try, though.
Yeah...."Black Monday". By Tuesday everything was fine. When FDR over saw his "Black Monday" it lasted over a decade thanks to ignorant liberal socialism. And not only did he force people to live in near perpetual poverty, he also shredded the U.S. Constitution in the process. Yeah libtard policy!

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday, and no, everything WASN'T fine by Tuesday, as major firms converged, people were laid off and work hours were in excess of 100 per week.
Supply Side Economics has always been the Wet Dream of Republicans...Cheap Labor and No Benefits.
Under Reagan, thanks to technology, it accelerated, and manufacturing began it's long, torturous journey away from the US.
The Bi-Partisan Economy we have today did NOT start in a vacuum, it started with Reagan.

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday,


They had portfolio insurance and program trading in the 1920s?
That is a very, very ignorant explanation of the reasons for the Great Republican Depression of 2008. But a typical con tool response, straight out of bat shit crazy con web sites. Of the many reasons for that those are but a small part.
 
There was no "Great Reagan Depression".
Typical Right-wing revisionist history. Reagan's recession was at the time the worst recession since the Great Republican Depression, only to be outdone later by the Great Bush Recession.
 
When Obama raised taxes, why didn't he achieve the same GDP growth as Reagan?
Obama didn't raise taxes at first but continued the Bush tax cuts. GDP languished. Finally he let most of the Bush tax cuts expire and GDP grew.

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Obama raised taxes in his 4th year. Reagan cut in his 1st.

Your chart shows cuts work better than no cuts. Thanks!
Hey dumb ass, the chart covers only 2 and 1/4 years, the numbers at the bottom are QUARTERS, not years!!!!
 
When Obama raised taxes, why didn't he achieve the same GDP growth as Reagan?
Obama didn't raise taxes at first but continued the Bush tax cuts. GDP languished. Finally he let most of the Bush tax cuts expire and GDP grew.

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Obama raised taxes in his 4th year. Reagan cut in his 1st.

Your chart shows cuts work better than no cuts. Thanks!
Hey dumb ass, the chart covers only 2 and 1/4 years, the numbers at the bottom are QUARTERS, not years!!!!

The boy thought that thats how years was spelled. Not his fault. He is a con tool. I think it is congenital.
 
Reagan benefitted from Carter's policies.
Reagan immediately rid the U.S. of Carter's failed liberal policies. Nice try though.
And the rich got richer and Black Monday.
Nice try, though.
Yeah...."Black Monday". By Tuesday everything was fine. When FDR over saw his "Black Monday" it lasted over a decade thanks to ignorant liberal socialism. And not only did he force people to live in near perpetual poverty, he also shredded the U.S. Constitution in the process. Yeah libtard policy!

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday, and no, everything WASN'T fine by Tuesday, as major firms converged, people were laid off and work hours were in excess of 100 per week.
Supply Side Economics has always been the Wet Dream of Republicans...Cheap Labor and No Benefits.
Under Reagan, thanks to technology, it accelerated, and manufacturing began it's long, torturous journey away from the US.
The Bi-Partisan Economy we have today did NOT start in a vacuum, it started with Reagan.

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday,


They had portfolio insurance and program trading in the 1920s?

No, they over invested overseas.
Haven't you watched Milton Friedman's video on YouTube on the cause of The Great Depression?
He doesn't blame shifting money away from the US, he blames the Fed for taking too long to implement Quantitative Easing.
Freidman's dementia must have been setting in.
 
So, the reason I am going to ignore you is obvious in your post.

It is obvious. Because I just humiliated you. I made it very clear to everyone that you have no idea what you're talking about. And you're smart enough to realize that I do. Hence the reason you don't want any part of this conversation. You're brighter than the normal stubborn libtard.
 
Reagan immediately rid the U.S. of Carter's failed liberal policies.
And threw the country into at the time the greatest recession since the Great Republican Depression.
Yeah...keep telling yourself that the greatest economic tidal wave in U.S. history during the Reagan Administration was "a great depression". I can wait until 30 years from now how we'll have to listen to future generations of blind, devoted libtard minions spout about how Barack Obama and the Dumbocrats built the "epic" economy of 2008 & 2009 :lmao:
 
There was no "Great Reagan Depression".
Typical Right-wing revisionist history. Reagan's recession was at the time the worst recession since the Great Republican Depression, only to be outdone later by the Great Bush Recession.
Projection. It's what libtards do best. Everything that liberals are guilty of they accuse the other side of doing. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of racism - and of course today we have to listen to them falsely accuse conservatives of being racist. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of overseeing economies that collapsed (FDR and the Great Depression, Jimmy Carter and the Great Recession, Barack Obama - A.K.A. the Food Stamp President, etc.) and yet we have to listen to obedient little libtard minions pretend like the greatest economic turnaround in U.S. history was a "recession".

The entire Dumbocrat platform is - whatever we're guilty of doing - just claim the other side did and hope there are enough ignorant little libtard minions out there (such as EdTheCynic) who won't ask any questions or study history, but who will simply believe whatever we tell them. SMH.

You seem more worried and panicked than normal ETC. Is the thought of Donald Trump taking away all of your government gravy trains away worrying you? I doubt he'll do it ETC. You'll probably be able to keep mooching off of society.
 
There was no "Great Reagan Depression".
Typical Right-wing revisionist history. Reagan's recession was at the time the worst recession since the Great Republican Depression, only to be outdone later by the Great Bush Recession.
Projection. It's what libtards do best. Everything that liberals are guilty of they accuse the other side of doing. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of racism - and of course today we have to listen to them falsely accuse conservatives of being racist. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of overseeing economies that collapsed (FDR and the Great Depression, Jimmy Carter and the Great Recession, Barack Obama - A.K.A. the Food Stamp President, etc.) and yet we have to listen to obedient little libtard minions pretend like the greatest economic turnaround in U.S. history was a "recession".

The entire Dumbocrat platform is - whatever we're guilty of doing - just claim the other side did and hope there are enough ignorant little libtard minions out there (such as EdTheCynic) who won't ask any questions or study history, but who will simply believe whatever we tell them. SMH.

You seem more worried and panicked than normal ETC. Is the thought of Donald Trump taking away all of your government gravy trains away worrying you? I doubt he'll do it ETC. You'll probably be able to keep mooching off of society.

Wow. That was a lot of words, and even more letters, for you have pasted. Congratulations. Just keep at it. Don't believe it when they say that congenital idiots can not perform. You are proving them wrong.
 
There was no "Great Reagan Depression".
Typical Right-wing revisionist history. Reagan's recession was at the time the worst recession since the Great Republican Depression, only to be outdone later by the Great Bush Recession.
Projection. It's what libtards do best. Everything that liberals are guilty of they accuse the other side of doing. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of racism - and of course today we have to listen to them falsely accuse conservatives of being racist. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of overseeing economies that collapsed (FDR and the Great Depression, Jimmy Carter and the Great Recession, Barack Obama - A.K.A. the Food Stamp President, etc.) and yet we have to listen to obedient little libtard minions pretend like the greatest economic turnaround in U.S. history was a "recession".

The entire Dumbocrat platform is - whatever we're guilty of doing - just claim the other side did and hope there are enough ignorant little libtard minions out there (such as EdTheCynic) who won't ask any questions or study history, but who will simply believe whatever we tell them. SMH.

You seem more worried and panicked than normal ETC. Is the thought of Donald Trump taking away all of your government gravy trains away worrying you? I doubt he'll do it ETC. You'll probably be able to keep mooching off of society.

Wow. That was a lot of words, and even more letters, for you have pasted. Congratulations. Just keep at it. Don't believe it when they say that congenital idiots can not perform. You are proving them wrong.
Like I said earlier - your much brighter than the average libtard. Most of them let their pride get in the way. You're smart enough to see that the facts make you look foolish so you're avoiding debate at all costs. Well done little one. Well done. Someday you might be able to break out of being a brainwashed little minion and actually question the leaders that you follow so blindly right now.
 
There was no "Great Reagan Depression".
Typical Right-wing revisionist history. Reagan's recession was at the time the worst recession since the Great Republican Depression, only to be outdone later by the Great Bush Recession.
Projection. It's what libtards do best. Everything that liberals are guilty of they accuse the other side of doing. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of racism - and of course today we have to listen to them falsely accuse conservatives of being racist. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of overseeing economies that collapsed (FDR and the Great Depression, Jimmy Carter and the Great Recession, Barack Obama - A.K.A. the Food Stamp President, etc.) and yet we have to listen to obedient little libtard minions pretend like the greatest economic turnaround in U.S. history was a "recession".

The entire Dumbocrat platform is - whatever we're guilty of doing - just claim the other side did and hope there are enough ignorant little libtard minions out there (such as EdTheCynic) who won't ask any questions or study history, but who will simply believe whatever we tell them. SMH.

You seem more worried and panicked than normal ETC. Is the thought of Donald Trump taking away all of your government gravy trains away worrying you? I doubt he'll do it ETC. You'll probably be able to keep mooching off of society.
Your post is entirely PROJECTION! :rofl::lmao:
 
There was no "Great Reagan Depression".
Typical Right-wing revisionist history. Reagan's recession was at the time the worst recession since the Great Republican Depression, only to be outdone later by the Great Bush Recession.
Projection. It's what libtards do best. Everything that liberals are guilty of they accuse the other side of doing. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of racism - and of course today we have to listen to them falsely accuse conservatives of being racist. The Dumbocrats have a long and ugly history of overseeing economies that collapsed (FDR and the Great Depression, Jimmy Carter and the Great Recession, Barack Obama - A.K.A. the Food Stamp President, etc.) and yet we have to listen to obedient little libtard minions pretend like the greatest economic turnaround in U.S. history was a "recession".

The entire Dumbocrat platform is - whatever we're guilty of doing - just claim the other side did and hope there are enough ignorant little libtard minions out there (such as EdTheCynic) who won't ask any questions or study history, but who will simply believe whatever we tell them. SMH.

You seem more worried and panicked than normal ETC. Is the thought of Donald Trump taking away all of your government gravy trains away worrying you? I doubt he'll do it ETC. You'll probably be able to keep mooching off of society.
Your post is entirely PROJECTION! :rofl::lmao:
Wow....you've been so thoroughly defeated you can't even come up with an original thought. You're relegated to just repeating what I'm saying. :lol:
 
Following enactment in August 1981, the first 5% of the 25% total cuts took place beginning in October. An additional 10% began in July 1982, followed by a third decrease of 10% beginning in July 1983.[4]

Thanks. I always enjoy it when liberals post the refutations of their own claims.

Can you post the chart that shows 7% GDP growth after Obama raised rates?
And I always love it when CON$ lie about what others post. I posted no such thing, YOU did and Reagan's tax cuts never followed that projected schedule.

Following the 1981 tax cuts, as the economy was mired in recession and the federal deficit was spiraling out of control, even groups such as the Business Roundtable lobbied Reagan to raise taxes. And he did:
The first Reagan tax increase came in 1982. By then it was clear that the budget projections used to justify the 1981 tax cut were wildly optimistic. In response, Mr. Reagan agreed to a sharp rollback of corporate tax cuts, and a smaller rollback of individual income tax cuts. Over all, the 1982 tax increase undid about a third of the 1981 cut.

When Obama raised taxes, why didn't he achieve the same GDP growth as Reagan?
Obama's should have been higher, because he's so much smarter than Reagan, so what happened?
Why did Obama have so much fail compared to so much Reagan success?

I am shocked you do not know the reasons. Let me help you, me poor ignorant con tool:
1. Republicans owned the congress and stopped every effort to fight the recession. Voted against bills to fight recession every single time, with every republican congressman voting no. And, they then refused to bring forward a single bill aimed at shortening the recession.
2. They required the only bill that got through, with zero votes from their side, to be over 1/3 tax cuts, which, according to the cbo, had the least effect on the recession of any measures the bill had.
3. Obama came into office while we were seeing losses of over 500,000 jobs per month. And he was left with the largest recession of any new president since the Great Republican Depression of 1929. The recession now known as the Great Republican Recession.
Sorry to blunt your well refined conservative talking point. Try thinking some time.

Republicans owned the congress and stopped every effort to fight the recession.

The recession ended by June 2009. The Republicans didn't take the House until Jan 2011.
How could they stop Obama's "recession fight"?
So, the recession ended 4 months after Obama took office.
Have you always been that stupid, or have you had to work at it.
Truth is, should you be interested, that you could get all sorts of answers about when any recession ended. There is no absolute date. And, always, the last thing fixed is unemployment. At least in any aggregate demand recession. So, your statement is stupid, as it stands. You could surround it with some truth, but you did not.


And, they then refused to bring forward a single bill aimed at shortening the recession.

Bastards! Refusing to fight the recession that ended 18 months before they took over. LOL!
Yup. I agree. Not caring for the fact that unemployment was high, and being uninterested in bringing the ue rate down does make them, and you, bastards. And un-american.

They required the only bill that got through, with zero votes from their side, to be over 1/3 tax cuts, which, according to the cbo, had the least effect on the recession of any measures the bill had.

Yeah, refundable tax credits are one of the weakest tax cuts you can give.
Actually, of the tax cuts provided by the ARRA better than most. But of the total tax cuts, they were a very small portion. And, you will find that cons hated them, because a large portion were aimed at less wealthy, as opposed to most tax cuts that went to the wealthy.
Net is, refundable tax credits were too small to make any real difference. Except to con tools. What I said is absolutely true, and your statement is irrelivent. But thanks for trying.

Obama came into office while we were seeing losses of over 500,000 jobs per month.

And managed to hand us the weakest recovery in history. I thought you said the economy had recovered by June of 2009. Make up your mind.
Actually, Obama made many attempts to help the situation with unemployment. So, let me try to educate you again. No president can mandate programs to stimulate an economy. Takes congress. Which was controlled by republicans. So, though he did bring many bills to congress, republicans voted against every single one. With NO members voting for them. Killed every single bill. And, because republicans did not conscern themselves with the misery of workers being out of work for long periods, they brought NO bills forward to help the ue situation. UNLIKE IN THE REGAN RECESSIONS WHEN DEMOCRATS DID NOT BLOCK ANY OF REAGAN'S ATTEMPTS. AT ALL. See the difference??

Maybe he should have cut tax rates across the board, like Reagan did?
You are on a very, very small island. Most all people have figured out that supply side economics does not work.
Before the reagan years, you could find supply side economics classes in most major colleges. After, you needed to go to Regent University or George Mason U.

Truth is, should you be interested, that you could get all sorts of answers about when any recession ended. There is no absolute date.

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

Derp.

Actually, of the tax cuts provided by the ARRA better than most.

Nope. People tend to save a large portion of a temporary tax cut.

I thought you said the economy had recovered by June of 2009.

The recession ended. And boy has the recovery sucked.

UNLIKE IN THE REGAN RECESSIONS WHEN DEMOCRATS DID NOT BLOCK ANY OF REAGAN'S ATTEMPTS. AT ALL. See the difference??


Yes, I see your fantasies about Tip O'Neill are very powerful.

You are on a very, very small island. Most all people have figured out that supply side economics does not work.

Compared to Obama's tax hikes and sub 3% GDP, supply side was fan-fucking-tastic!

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Reagan immediately rid the U.S. of Carter's failed liberal policies. Nice try though.
And the rich got richer and Black Monday.
Nice try, though.
Yeah...."Black Monday". By Tuesday everything was fine. When FDR over saw his "Black Monday" it lasted over a decade thanks to ignorant liberal socialism. And not only did he force people to live in near perpetual poverty, he also shredded the U.S. Constitution in the process. Yeah libtard policy!

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday, and no, everything WASN'T fine by Tuesday, as major firms converged, people were laid off and work hours were in excess of 100 per week.
Supply Side Economics has always been the Wet Dream of Republicans...Cheap Labor and No Benefits.
Under Reagan, thanks to technology, it accelerated, and manufacturing began it's long, torturous journey away from the US.
The Bi-Partisan Economy we have today did NOT start in a vacuum, it started with Reagan.

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday,


They had portfolio insurance and program trading in the 1920s?
That is a very, very ignorant explanation of the reasons for the Great Republican Depression of 2008. But a typical con tool response, straight out of bat shit crazy con web sites. Of the many reasons for that those are but a small part.

That is a very, very ignorant explanation of the reasons for the Great Republican Depression of 2008.

Black Monday was October 19, 1987.

Derp.
 
When Obama raised taxes, why didn't he achieve the same GDP growth as Reagan?
Obama didn't raise taxes at first but continued the Bush tax cuts. GDP languished. Finally he let most of the Bush tax cuts expire and GDP grew.

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Obama raised taxes in his 4th year. Reagan cut in his 1st.

Your chart shows cuts work better than no cuts. Thanks!
Hey dumb ass, the chart covers only 2 and 1/4 years, the numbers at the bottom are QUARTERS, not years!!!!

Hey dumb ass, the chart covers only 2 and 1/4

Hey, dumbass, Reagan cut taxes in his first year, where is Obama's GDP growing as well as Reagan's?

Obama didn't raise taxes at first.....GDP languished.


Yup, he should have cut taxes.

Finally he let most of the Bush tax cuts expire and GDP grew.

Nope, after he raised taxes, GDP still languished.
 
Reagan immediately rid the U.S. of Carter's failed liberal policies. Nice try though.
And the rich got richer and Black Monday.
Nice try, though.
Yeah...."Black Monday". By Tuesday everything was fine. When FDR over saw his "Black Monday" it lasted over a decade thanks to ignorant liberal socialism. And not only did he force people to live in near perpetual poverty, he also shredded the U.S. Constitution in the process. Yeah libtard policy!

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday, and no, everything WASN'T fine by Tuesday, as major firms converged, people were laid off and work hours were in excess of 100 per week.
Supply Side Economics has always been the Wet Dream of Republicans...Cheap Labor and No Benefits.
Under Reagan, thanks to technology, it accelerated, and manufacturing began it's long, torturous journey away from the US.
The Bi-Partisan Economy we have today did NOT start in a vacuum, it started with Reagan.

The Conservative vision that caused the Great Depression was the same Conservative vision that caused Black Monday,


They had portfolio insurance and program trading in the 1920s?

No, they over invested overseas.
Haven't you watched Milton Friedman's video on YouTube on the cause of The Great Depression?
He doesn't blame shifting money away from the US, he blames the Fed for taking too long to implement Quantitative Easing.
Freidman's dementia must have been setting in.

No, they over invested overseas.

Which has what to do with 1987 or the Great Depression?

Haven't you watched Milton Friedman's video on YouTube on the cause of The Great Depression?

Massive bank failures and the Fed tightened the money supply instead of easing.
 

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