Electoral College CAN elect Hillary

[GLASNOST]

don't like Trump, but screwing with the process would piss me off.

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

 

[Pogo]

don't like Trump, but screwing with the process would piss me off.

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

don't like Trump, but screwing with the process would piss me off.

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

 

[Pogo]

don't like Trump, but screwing with the process would piss me off.

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

Yup. "Last few times".

For one thing, states haven't always just caved in all their votes en masse for the winner of that state's PV. There have been many splits for many reasons. For another thing as already mentioned electors can and do vote for anybody they want. In 1960 fifteen electors in three states decided they didn't like either Kennedy or Nixon and cast votes for Harry Byrd --- who hadn't even run for the office.

These wags in this thread seem to believe somehow that the 'winner take all' motif is how the Constitution works. Whelp --- it isn't. Actually we don't even have to hold elections at all. And considering how the process really works, there's not a lot of point to it anyway.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

don't like Trump, but screwing with the process would piss me off.

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

Yup. "Last few times".

For one thing, states haven't always just caved in all their votes en masse for the winner of that state's PV. There have been many splits for many reasons. For another thing as already mentioned electors can and do vote for anybody they want. In 1960 fifteen electors in three states decided they didn't like either Kennedy or Nixon and cast votes for Harry Byrd --- who hadn't even run for the office.

These wags in this thread seem to believe somehow that the 'winner take all' motif is how the Constitution works. Whelp --- it isn't. Actually we don't even have to hold elections at all. And considering how the process really works, there's not a lot of point to it anyway.

Look, there have been 157 faithless electors in our history, but never have they acted to throw out a presidential election.

 

[Pogo]

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

Yup. "Last few times".

For one thing, states haven't always just caved in all their votes en masse for the winner of that state's PV. There have been many splits for many reasons. For another thing as already mentioned electors can and do vote for anybody they want. In 1960 fifteen electors in three states decided they didn't like either Kennedy or Nixon and cast votes for Harry Byrd --- who hadn't even run for the office.

These wags in this thread seem to believe somehow that the 'winner take all' motif is how the Constitution works. Whelp --- it isn't. Actually we don't even have to hold elections at all. And considering how the process really works, there's not a lot of point to it anyway.

Look, there have been 157 faithless electors in our history, but never have they acted to throw out a presidential election.

Indeed they can't "throw out" an election --- since they are in fact the ones executing the election. It's in their hands, not ours.

Technically the election hasn't happened yet. We think we know how it will go --- but anything is possible.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

Yup. "Last few times".

For one thing, states haven't always just caved in all their votes en masse for the winner of that state's PV. There have been many splits for many reasons. For another thing as already mentioned electors can and do vote for anybody they want. In 1960 fifteen electors in three states decided they didn't like either Kennedy or Nixon and cast votes for Harry Byrd --- who hadn't even run for the office.

These wags in this thread seem to believe somehow that the 'winner take all' motif is how the Constitution works. Whelp --- it isn't. Actually we don't even have to hold elections at all. And considering how the process really works, there's not a lot of point to it anyway.

Look, there have been 157 faithless electors in our history, but never have they acted to throw out a presidential election.

Indeed they can't "throw out" an election --- since they are in fact the ones executing the election. It's in their hands, not ours.

Technically the election hasn't happened yet. We think we know how it will go --- but anything is possible.

They're going to do their duty and cast their votes the way their state voted. Anything else is anarchy.

 

[Pop23]

“Opponents of President-elect Donald Trump are trying to persuade Republican electors to vote against him next month ……
Electors meet in their state capitals to cast their ballots; this year, that will take place Dec. 19. ………

Do electors have to vote the way their state voted?
The Constitution is silent on this point, which suggests electors can go their own way.

This is certainly the thinking behind petitions and a handful of Clinton electors urging
Republican electors to abandon Trump.
In 29 states, there are either statutes or party
rules that theoretically bind electors to honor state results.
But the penalty for becoming
a "faithless elector" is typically a fine measured in the hundreds of dollars.”

IOW: With no fear of significant legal punishment the Electoral College CAN elect Hillary

Can electors vote for Clinton rather than Trump? How the electoral college works

ps: the reward for becoming a "faithless elector" could be immense
and
the penalty for not being a "faithless elector" could also be immense

Consider all the Republicans who support Obama policies.

"carrot and stick"

"when ya got’em by the balls, you can make'em see the light"

And the odds of an alien unicorn jumping out of your ass is about the same as your PO becoming reality.

 

[Pogo]

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

Yup. "Last few times".

For one thing, states haven't always just caved in all their votes en masse for the winner of that state's PV. There have been many splits for many reasons. For another thing as already mentioned electors can and do vote for anybody they want. In 1960 fifteen electors in three states decided they didn't like either Kennedy or Nixon and cast votes for Harry Byrd --- who hadn't even run for the office.

These wags in this thread seem to believe somehow that the 'winner take all' motif is how the Constitution works. Whelp --- it isn't. Actually we don't even have to hold elections at all. And considering how the process really works, there's not a lot of point to it anyway.

Look, there have been 157 faithless electors in our history, but never have they acted to throw out a presidential election.

Indeed they can't "throw out" an election --- since they are in fact the ones executing the election. It's in their hands, not ours.

Technically the election hasn't happened yet. We think we know how it will go --- but anything is possible.

They're going to do their duty and cast their votes the way their state voted. Anything else is anarchy.

No, it's the Electoral College. You could look it up.

And while you're doing that, show the class anywhere the Constitution says they have to vote that way.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Where's the "screwing"? Do you get how the process works? That is after all what this thread is about.

Whether or not it was actually "screwed with" ..... wouldn't it piss you off too if it was?

That's the point -- it isn't. Whole lotta wags in this thread seem to have no idea how the Electrical College works. They seem to think "here's the way it acted the last few times, therefore that's the way it has to act".

And this is why we bring the topic up. Illumination.

Last "few times"?

Yup. "Last few times".

For one thing, states haven't always just caved in all their votes en masse for the winner of that state's PV. There have been many splits for many reasons. For another thing as already mentioned electors can and do vote for anybody they want. In 1960 fifteen electors in three states decided they didn't like either Kennedy or Nixon and cast votes for Harry Byrd --- who hadn't even run for the office.

These wags in this thread seem to believe somehow that the 'winner take all' motif is how the Constitution works. Whelp --- it isn't. Actually we don't even have to hold elections at all. And considering how the process really works, there's not a lot of point to it anyway.

Look, there have been 157 faithless electors in our history, but never have they acted to throw out a presidential election.

Give it up.

On December 20th, when this becomes final.....this board will be crawling with wounded leftists.

 

[JohnPrewett]

Many seem ignorant of the fact that the Trump-Nationalist are not pitted against merely the American Hillary supporters.
Nor merely against any simply "American" opposition.

The Trump Nationalist pro "sovereign" USA camp is pitted against the Pope led Satanic Globalist.

All "sovereign" nations must and will be turned into provinces of the One World Government.
God is NOT going to keep any nation "sovereign" .....
the One World Government is ordained to come into being. The Beast must have his throne.

The power [to reward, protect or punish] of the pope led Satanic Globalist is FAR GREATER than that of the highly infiltrated Trump - Nationalist camp.
Come Dec 19 it is probable [I'm tempted to say "certain"] the Electoral College will elect Hillary. This will emphatically signal the soon to come end of “sovereign” America.

 

[Kosh]

You are watching the self destruction of the Democrat party...this is historic

And this is not the first time, it happened back in the late 70's as well, which got Reagan elected!