Evangelicals explain their support for Trump. It's the racism that stands out.

[bodecea]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

OMG What a load of horseshit.

You didn't read the article, did you.

No. Of course you didn't.

Just like you ran away from my post.

What post was that?

__________________________

PTBBE - Proud to be brown eyed

 

[DOTR]

it's a good, balanced article. From it

The only way to understand how a Christian like him could support a man who boasted about grabbing women’s crotches, Terry said, was to understand how he felt about the person Trump was still constantly bringing up in his speeches and who loomed large in Terry’s thoughts: Hillary Clinton, whom Terry saw as “sinister” and “evil” and “I’d say, of Satan.”

“She hates me,” Terry said, sitting in Crum’s office one day. “She has contempt for people like me, and Clay, and people who love God and believe in the Second Amendment. I think if she had her way it would be a dangerous country for the likes of me.”

As he saw it, there was the issue of Trump’s character, and there was the issue of Terry’s own extinction, and the choice was clear.

“He’s going to stick to me,” Terry said.

So many members of First Baptist saw it that way.​

Yep. Racist as hell.

 

[bodecea]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

So Christian's should have voted for lying, crooked Hillary, who is an abortionist to boot?

As opposed to paying for abortions for his mistresses?

 

[rightwinger]

Bearing false witnesses? Twenty years ago the crazy jack booted left was ripping the Ten Commandments off a court house wall and now the hypocrites lecture us about Christian beliefs? You gotta be kidding. We just saw an unrepentant enabler for forty years of her husband's sexual abuse and a friend of one of H'wood's worst sexual abusers run for president and the crazy angry bigoted left lectures us about adultery.

Didn’t see evangelicals support Clinton, did you?

Why do they support Trump?

 

[g5000]

Bearing false witnesses? Twenty years ago the crazy jack booted left was ripping the Ten Commandments off a court house wall and now the hypocrites lecture us about Christian beliefs? You gotta be kidding. We just saw an unrepentant enabler for forty years of her husband's sexual abuse and a friend of one of H'wood's worst sexual abusers run for president and the crazy angry bigoted left lectures us about adultery.

What's that have to do with Trump and the support he gets from evangelicals?

Do they live by their principles or not?

Tu quoque fallacies just blow up in your face and expose the hypocrisy.

I happen to be a member of a Pentacostal church. I attend at least once a week, often twice. Most of the congregation are big Trump supporters and that just baffles the shit out of me.

"B-b-b-b-b-but Hillary" does not excuse supporting a person as vile and evil as Trump.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Adultery. Casinos. Beauty pageants. Greed. Lust. Envy. Porn stars. Multiple marriages. Fraudulent ripoff schools. Vodka. Pussy grabbing. Pathological lying. Regular bearing of false witness.

What's an evangelical not to like?

"Trump would NEVER bake a cake for a Mexican homo!"

I was unaware that Trump was running for the position of national Pastor! As an adult, I never felt that the president should be the nation's moral barometer. Why do you?

 

[Pogo]

Adultery. Casinos. Beauty pageants. Greed. Lust. Envy. Porn stars. Multiple marriages. Fraudulent ripoff schools. Vodka. Pussy grabbing. Pathological lying. Regular bearing of false witness.

What's an evangelical not to like?

"Trump would NEVER bake a cake for a Mexican homo!"

The "Seven Deadly Sins" are said to be:

Pride
Greed
Lust
Envy
Gluttony
Wrath and
Sloth

I can't see a single one that Rump hasn't consumed like a gold plated porn cheeseburger that he'll send whiny "blood" tweets about if you call him out for getting fat on it.

 

[ptbw forever]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

OMG What a load of horseshit.

You didn't read the article, did you.

No. Of course you didn't.

Just like you ran away from my post.

What post was that?

__________________________

PTBBE - Proud to be brown eyed

The one about Wright’s racist congregation, which included Obama.

 

[bodecea]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

Donald Trump seems the farthest any person with Christian values would support

Yup! A big part of why I left the church was hateful people such as these (both in the article, and on this board). The fact that they can make excuses for all the hatred and ugliness just helps me to understand - there is no God. He's just a bludgeon they use to try to get their way.

Disgusting gits.

Evangelicals supported Jim Crow till the end. They couldn’t care less if fellow Christians were discriminated against.......they were black

Let's not forget the origin of the Southern Baptist sect...they split off from the Baptists because of their support of slavery.

 

[bodecea]

Adultery. Casinos. Beauty pageants. Greed. Lust. Envy. Porn stars. Multiple marriages. Fraudulent ripoff schools. Vodka. Pussy grabbing. Pathological lying. Daily false witnessing.
What's an evangelical not to like?

Trump wasn't trying to be elected Pope.

No one said he was.

But plenty of people actually believe this fuckwit was sent by God. That's some seriously deluded thinking.

This country would probably be gone by now if Hillary had won, and plenty of people thought she was a shoe-in in 2014-2015.

Occam's Razor

__________________

PTBRH - Proud to be Right Handed

 

[g5000]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

So Christian's should have voted for lying, crooked Hillary, who is an abortionist to boot?

Fallacy of the excluded middle.

Is this all you have?

 

[Pogo]

Adultery. Casinos. Beauty pageants. Greed. Lust. Envy. Porn stars. Multiple marriages. Fraudulent ripoff schools. Vodka. Pussy grabbing. Pathological lying. Regular bearing of false witness.

What's an evangelical not to like?

"Trump would NEVER bake a cake for a Mexican homo!"

I was unaware that Trump was running for the position of national Pastor! As an adult, I never felt that the president should be the nation's moral barometer. Why do you?

uhhhhmmmm..... check the topic here, Evelyn Wood.

 

[bodecea]

Trump donated millions to abortionists.

And the rubes are okay with that.

"He made money off the deaths of the unborn. That makes it okay!"

Not recently.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Oh, man. That's priceless.

I had no idea God has a statute of limitations for aiding and abetting the murder of the unborn!

Trump's position on something 20 years ago wasn't relevant in 16'. I'm obviously talking to a fool. Carry on.

However. to the not-very-bright-nor-honest trumpanzee...what H. Clinton and Former President Obama did 20 years ago is still very relevant. Oooooooooooooooooooooooookaaaaaay....

 

[ptbw forever]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

So Christian's should have voted for lying, crooked Hillary, who is an abortionist to boot?

Fallacy of the excluded middle.

Is this all you have?

The middle have abandoned the Democrats too.

 

[bodecea]

Judgment Days

In a small Alabama town, an evangelical congregation reckons with God, President Trump and the meaning of morality

A few leaders have publicly dissented from such views, aware of the Southern Baptist history of whiffing on the big moral questions of the day — such as during the civil rights era, when most pastors either defended segregation or remained silent. The president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s ethics commission, Russell Moore, asked whether Christians were “really ready to trade unity with our black and brown brothers and sisters for this angry politician?” One prominent black pastor, Lawrence Ware, left the denomination altogether, writing that the widespread reluctance to criticize Trump on racial issues revealed a “deep commitment to white supremacy.” The new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greear, said church culture had “grown too comfortable with power and the dangers that power brings.”

But all those discussions were taking place far from the rank-and-file. The Southern Baptists who filled the pews every Sunday were making their own moral calculations about Trump in the privacy of a thousand church sanctuaries in cities and towns such as Luverne, population 2,700, an hour south of the state capital of Montgomery.

It was a place where it was hard to drive a mile in any direction without passing some church or sign about the wages of sin, where conversations about politics happened in nodding circles before Sunday school, or at the Chicken Shack after, and few people paid attention to some national Southern Baptist leader.

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.

Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.

What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

The Democrats have a lot of explaining to do.
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The Klan is comprised of conservatives, same as it ever was.

Apparently you never heard of the Southern Strategy.

Hillary is not a conservative

She's a centrist. But since you never bothered to do any research, you don't know that.

They only repeat what they've been told to repeat. Trumpanzees have been well-groomed.......easily groomed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Most Americans get it.
Christians are not welcomed in the Democratic Party unless they check their morals at the door.

Which, of course, is idiotic. You just made that up, and it contradicts every measure available to us.

Religious Landscape Study

 

[g5000]

The base has been deliberately dumbed down by their propagandists. They have been reduced to brainless, unthinking parrots who bleev what they are told to bleev, and are discouraged from engaging in independent critical thinking. Anyone who questions the propaganda is labeled an apostate, a Hillary supporter, an atheist, all of the above. Any imposition of reality is to be blocked by a wall of tu quoques, false dilemmas, straw men, red herrings, and lies.

When one observes all the contradictory beliefs of a Fifth Avenue Republican, one can't help wonder why their heads don't explode from cognitive dissonance. But that is because that would require cognition.

 

[Thinker101]

Trump donated millions to abortionists.

And the rubes are okay with that.

"He made money off the deaths of the unborn. That makes it okay!"

Not recently.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Oh, man. That's priceless.

I had no idea God has a statute of limitations for aiding and abetting the murder of the unborn!

Trump's position on something 20 years ago wasn't relevant in 16'. I'm obviously talking to a fool. Carry on.

However. to the not-very-bright-nor-honest trumpanzee...what H. Clinton and Former President Obama did 20 years ago is still very relevant. Oooooooooooooooooooooooookaaaaaay....

Yeah, Obama did something 20 years ago?

 

[g5000]

I used to be optimistic my Republican Party would recover from its insanity. I used to be optimistic they would throw out the liars, hypocrites, bigots, and idiots who infected the party and were destroying it from within.

That is no longer the case. Through apathy and misguided self-destructive appeasement of the invaders, the GOP has committed suicide. The cancer has metastasized.

Trump is not the disease. He is the crooked psychic healer come to gouge the ignorant family members around the bedside of the dying body for all they are worth.

 

[rightwinger]

I remember the outrage evangelicals had over Bill Clinton’s womanizing

Strangely silent about Trump

 

[bodecea]

This is a really good read for all those of us who absolutely cannot grasp how people who call themselves people of faith have embraced an obviously unchristian man.
Most of it seems to be a reaction to Obama, and the lies they chose to believe about him. Which - I mean, that's not really any surprise.
What is going to be a surprise is when they get turned away at the pearly gates.

Always quite humorous when atheist liberals like you try to lecture Christian people about their faith and how they should practice it. ... ...

These people are not Christians, even though they advertise themselves as such. They are an abomination.

Funny how those who reject the Christian God feel comfortable defining what a Christian is. Silly hypocrites!

Define a christian for us then.