healthmyths
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Politifact.org recently PROVED how screwed up Obamacare will become when EVEN they didn't comprehend what they were supposedly disproving!!! In providing further liberal biased cover for Obama they wrote:
"Employers provide most of the insurance in this country. About 60 percent of everyone under 65 is covered through either a large-group or small-group plan, according to the Employee Benefits Research Institute, an independent think tank. Statistically, if Julie has insurance today, it’s most likely in one of those markets and the ad should not assume that her rates will rise.
About 22 percent of people under 65 are with a government program, either Medicaid or a children’s program, S-CHIP. The individual market represents the smallest slice of people with insurance, about 7 percent."
PolitiFact | AFP ad says premiums will rise under Obamacare
Now that adds up to if my simple arithmetic is correct, 89% Right?
Medicare states in the below on Page 8.. "In 2011, Medicare covered 40.4 million aged 65 and older," which is 12.7% of current known USA population below.
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statist...eports/ReportsTrustFunds/downloads/tr2012.pdf
When you multiple 89% (YOUR percent of people covered without Medicare...) times 316,295,540 people
You get 281,503,030 people covered under everything ......BUT Medicare and Tricare.
source:Population Clock
Now Politifact.org et.al. seem to forget the military and their families in their numbers!
"And pending upon their status, active duty members, retired members, members of the Guard/Reserves, family members, and certain veterans receive free or government subsidized medical and dental care. For the most part, this care falls under an overall program known as "Tricare." While the Tricare system may appear to be complicated at first glance, it's really not all that hard to understand.
8,300,000 covered by Tricare which is the Department of Defenses health insurance for military personal and their families. TriCare Information - Military Health Care
Adding the above 89% to the Medicare/Tricare, you get 332,469,830 people covered by some form of insurance!
Now I know Politifact has NEVER admitted this statement by Obama and used to pass by JUST 6 votes Obamacare was wrong,
but when Obama said: "We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
Who was he talking about??? it was a total fraudulent number that has been the commonly held by most obviously math shrift people!
And then it gets even more convoluted when subtracting these "falsely" included numbers:
A) 18 million people ACCORDING TO the White House counted as uninsured are under 34.
They make over $50,000 and refuse to buy employers' coverage as the spend less then $1,000 a year out of their OWN pocket.
So why should THEY be forced to buy something they don't need or WANT???
Source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
B) 14 million counted as uninsured need ONLY register with Medicaid!
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid
and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
C) 10 million are NOT CITIZENS yet Obama et.al count them as "uninsured"!
Source: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
This leaves truly 4 million that want and need health insurance NOT 46 million!
It is understandable why MOST Americans are finding that Obamacare is a huge huge mistake based on such bogus and phony numbers!
That if simple math such as I've performed isn't comprehended by Obama et.al.,
how can 1/6th of the economy be possibly be managed by these obviously math disadvantaged people? And it can't!!!
"Employers provide most of the insurance in this country. About 60 percent of everyone under 65 is covered through either a large-group or small-group plan, according to the Employee Benefits Research Institute, an independent think tank. Statistically, if Julie has insurance today, it’s most likely in one of those markets and the ad should not assume that her rates will rise.
About 22 percent of people under 65 are with a government program, either Medicaid or a children’s program, S-CHIP. The individual market represents the smallest slice of people with insurance, about 7 percent."
PolitiFact | AFP ad says premiums will rise under Obamacare
Now that adds up to if my simple arithmetic is correct, 89% Right?
Medicare states in the below on Page 8.. "In 2011, Medicare covered 40.4 million aged 65 and older," which is 12.7% of current known USA population below.
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statist...eports/ReportsTrustFunds/downloads/tr2012.pdf
When you multiple 89% (YOUR percent of people covered without Medicare...) times 316,295,540 people
You get 281,503,030 people covered under everything ......BUT Medicare and Tricare.
source:Population Clock
Now Politifact.org et.al. seem to forget the military and their families in their numbers!
"And pending upon their status, active duty members, retired members, members of the Guard/Reserves, family members, and certain veterans receive free or government subsidized medical and dental care. For the most part, this care falls under an overall program known as "Tricare." While the Tricare system may appear to be complicated at first glance, it's really not all that hard to understand.
8,300,000 covered by Tricare which is the Department of Defenses health insurance for military personal and their families. TriCare Information - Military Health Care
Adding the above 89% to the Medicare/Tricare, you get 332,469,830 people covered by some form of insurance!
Now I know Politifact has NEVER admitted this statement by Obama and used to pass by JUST 6 votes Obamacare was wrong,
but when Obama said: "We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
Who was he talking about??? it was a total fraudulent number that has been the commonly held by most obviously math shrift people!
And then it gets even more convoluted when subtracting these "falsely" included numbers:
A) 18 million people ACCORDING TO the White House counted as uninsured are under 34.
They make over $50,000 and refuse to buy employers' coverage as the spend less then $1,000 a year out of their OWN pocket.
So why should THEY be forced to buy something they don't need or WANT???
Source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
B) 14 million counted as uninsured need ONLY register with Medicaid!
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid
and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
C) 10 million are NOT CITIZENS yet Obama et.al count them as "uninsured"!
Source: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
This leaves truly 4 million that want and need health insurance NOT 46 million!
It is understandable why MOST Americans are finding that Obamacare is a huge huge mistake based on such bogus and phony numbers!
That if simple math such as I've performed isn't comprehended by Obama et.al.,
how can 1/6th of the economy be possibly be managed by these obviously math disadvantaged people? And it can't!!!
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