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Of course. They are looking to maximize profits.
which, does not at all correlate with benefiting the society capitalists are stuck t like a tick on a dogs nutsack.
You're forgetting the part where workers are also consumers. Companies that charge too much for their products get undercut by competition and go out of business. Look at a list of "unstoppable" businesses that progressives were railing against 100 years ago. Guess what, almost none of them exist anymore, they were put out of business by other businesse who offered customers a better deal.
Oh, you mean like how we see OIL companies being undercut all the time? Bell LABS before the gov stepped in to split it up? Multi national conglomerates? Yea dude. THE PIPE DREAM WORKS! sure it does.
weather or not workers are consumer means little when their consumption ability is minimized while their income is a reduced cost of labor for a capitalist, yo. Look at the housing market. WHAT THE FUCK ARE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND REALTORS DOING TO MAKE A SCRATCH IN THE CONSUMPTION OF GOODS WHILE THEIR MARKET IS STAGNANT DO TO CAPITALISTS IN BANKING?
They were in an economic funk for the better part of two decades. Then they were doing better for a couple of years, and now it's back to recession for them, most likely. They also pay exhorbitant prices for consumer goods, many Japanese people under the age of 40 have to live with their parents, etc.
yea.. I tellya.. NOHTING SAYS ECONOMIC RECESSION like dominating the shit out of our AUTO industry. Funny how freely capitalist use the word RECESSION when polishing the turd of their own bullshit theory. MOST LIKELY? Oh well.. thats convincing. And, please, don't confuse CULTURAL traditions with economic requirements. It's never been an aspect of their CULTURE to fly out of the house at 18 years of age. Maybe you should take the ethnocentrist goggles off.
The private oil companies don't have anywhere near the market share that state oil companies do. Also they aren't a monopoly. And they aren't interfering with solar panel companies. (Hint: there already is a Henry Ford style solar panel revolution going on, google Konarka or Nanosolar. A somewhat free market has responded to supply and demand. They could ramp up production a lot faster and probably could have brought this technology to fruition years sooner, with more capital.)
HA! yea.. I mean, ANY OLE DUDE can just go ahead and compete with SHELL! Deflecting criticism isn't really that impressive, dude. Oh, and just so you know, not everyone wears or NEEDS lipstick either so you can spare me the comparative profit margins between oil and cosmetics.
Speaking of oil monopolies, did you know that when Standard Oil went to court, their market share was 87%? And not 100%? Did you know that, by the time the company was broken up by our government, their market share was at 60% and falling? Even though they were relentlessly dropping prices on Kerosene and gasoline? Did you know that Rockefeller got tired of paying for insurance on his refineries, and pushed through a safety program so that he could stop paying it?
wow! 87%! Hell, that just SCREAMS "hey, come compete with me". Should I be impressed by your non sequiter?
We had cheap labor competition during the 50's and 60's, and we prospered. Sure, there were tariffs. But the price of labor in 3rd world countries more than makes up for it. So why wasn't our industrial base hollowed out?
CHEAP? in relation to the goods and services available? please. Indeed tarrifs. The price of labor in third world countries do NOT make up for anything and WE SEE THAT IN OUR PRODUCTION MARKETS. Indeed, our factories ARE being hollowed out when compared to an era where a breadwinner could support a family with a full time job in manufacturing.
It didn't start until Nixon took us off the last remnant of the gold standard in 1971. Not only did we immediately see inflation, but american industry went into decline. Thus we see the familiar statistics that it takes two incomes to provide what one income once did. Or the familiar lament that incomes for people without college degrees has stalled or declined. Or the huge trade deficit, which was like an elephant that appeared out of nowhere. You can thank the government and the quasi-private federal reserve for all of this.
thank you for your opinion on the root of the two income family. Blame nixon and the gold standard. That probably wont deflect the fact that we CURRENTLY see that outsourced tech jobs forces gen X techies into jobs at wal mart. That missing manufacturing for unskilled labor jobs have devalued the middle-lower class into pauper levels of SOL. Defelcting at the base standard of your capital doesn't validate the SYSTEM of capitalism in relation to the society that, once again, it leeches from like a tick on a dogs balls.
You stated:
No success is not DEPENDANT on starting postion.
and im calling BULLSHIT.
Why? I am the son of a used car salesman and a hair dresser. My wife is the daughter of a share cropper. I am now in that top 1% that gets bashed by the loons on this forum all the time. All we did was work our way through college, continue our education and training on the job, and after 30 years of hard work has a good degree of success. And we are the NORM, not the exception. Less that 1% of the wealthy (net worth's over $1,000,000) inherited it, the rest are entirely self made. Barack Obama is a prime example of a man of meager beginnings making it. Only in America. And his and mine and million's of others have pretty much the same story. We are SELF made.
Which would mean the amount of effort one puts forth is irrelevant, which I would have to call bullshit on. Will wealth be more difficult to achieve for crack whore, ghetto boy? You bet. He has fewer initial resources to draw on that will make it more difficult for him to compete in a free market. Does that mean his destiny is written in stone before birth? Of course not. Ultimately his level of success can only be determined by him. The goal would be to get him an people like him better opportunities, which I have little problem with. Why does that need to involve taking down the rich?
Who in the middle class is hurting? 94% still have jobs. 90% are paying their mortgages on time. 82% are paying their credit card bills on time. The one's that are not are actually the very low end fringe of the middle class and have basically been caught living beyond their means.
If you still have a job and are making enough to pay your bills your only association with the recession is from watching TV, and that is over 90% of us.
600,000 jobs lost in the recession and roughly 425,000 have found new jobs since..... The other 175,000 will find new work within the next six months. 94% of the country is still working. So what's the problem?
The employment rate of gen-x techies is 100% in case you don;t get that. I am in the business and I hire every qualified American techie I can find and I still have to go to India for over 40% of the tech needs because our lazy gen-xer's won't take Computer Science and related majors in college!!!! We'd hire but they DON'T EXIST!!!!
Why? I am the son of a used car salesman and a hair dresser. My wife is the daughter of a share cropper. I am now in that top 1% that gets bashed by the loons on this forum all the time. All we did was work our way through college, continue our education and training on the job, and after 30 years of hard work has a good degree of success. And we are the NORM, not the exception. Less that 1% of the wealthy (net worth's over $1,000,000) inherited it, the rest are entirely self made. Barack Obama is a prime example of a man of meager beginnings making it. Only in America. And his and mine and million's of others have pretty much the same story. We are SELF made.
No, all you did was be very lucky in the opportunities that came your way. AND A GOOD DEGREE OF SUCCESS. Funny how you just gloss over that and pretend working for 30 years is the mitigating factor. You are NOT the norm. In this latest day of inflated cost and lowered value of the dollar $1 MILLION doesn't mean shit. Hell, we have fucking GAME SHOWS that give that much away. Your assumptions are flawed if you think that number makes you WEALTHY or anywhere near the top 1%.Oh, and I guess your example is the standard by which we see EVERYONE born to poverty all of a sudden become millionaires?
So, again, enjoy the LINKS I provided when PROVING my case with more than rhetorical bullshit numbers pulled from thin air while the rest of us VOTES you bitch motherfuckers off of cloud nine. Don't like it? Take your fucking ass to Dubai.
HA!
no, it's not irrelevant but it IS NOT GUARANTEE either. I KNOW effort counts. But, pretending like some bullshit chewbacca arguement validates your economic opinions is pretty laughable. You mentioned a ghetto child. NOW compare that to the silver spoon hilton kids. WHO do you think is MORE LIKELY to achieve wealth? So, in essence, STATISTICALLY YES the particular layer of CLASS that you drop out of a vagina into DOES set your destiny in stone. Like I've said, your rags to riches BULLSHIT non sequiters are not the norm.
WHY? Because no one who is rich is about to displace opportunity set aside for members of their own fucking class up to and including their own family. Like I said, there ARE more of us than there are of your pet 2%. Don't like it? Move somewhere where wealth is immune from the society around you.
WHO? are you fucking retarded?
Middle Class Struggle For Homes
Queens Chronicle - Middle Class Struggle For Homes
A struggle to make ends meet
Middle class, buried in bills, cutting back, and reaching out for help
Middle class families struggling to make ends meet - The Boston Globe
Cities Shed Middle Class, and Are Richer and Poorer for It
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/23/weekinreview/23scott.html
Blacks Lose Better Jobs Faster As Middle-Class Work Drops
Blacks Lose Better Jobs Faster As Middle-Class Work Drops - New York Times
DO YOU NEED MORE EXAMPLES YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH? Cite your fucking sources, motherfucker. We can all make up numbers. Im betting jacks, joes and dominoes that your numbers come from a bullshit rightwing blog.
Would he be ther if he did NOT put in 30 years of work?
I guess that depends on how far up the wealth heirachy was the vagina that birthed him.
way to offer a rebuttal. Indeed, and you WONDER why your bullshit opinion of economic theory doesn't float in the face of evidence. You know, like the FACT that wealthy motherfuckers are not trading places with the poor just to create an even advantage.
AFTER ALL. WHICH OF US IS LIKELY TO SCREAM BLOODY FUCKING MURDER AT THE THOUGHT OF TAXING AN INHERITANCE?
The employment rate of gen-x techies is 100% in case you don;t get that. I am in the business and I hire every qualified American techie I can find and I still have to go to India for over 40% of the tech needs because our lazy gen-xer's won't take Computer Science and related majors in college!!!! We'd hire but they DON'T EXIST!!!!
