Evidence found for Biblical Exodus

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Myths have at least a core of truth to them, but jack ass libtards simply cant accept that there is any respectful use of the Bible at all, so deep is their hatred of Abrahamic faiths.

Proof of the Exodus! | Simcha Jacobovici TV


Searching for a way to translate this symbol, Griffith rendered it as “whirlpool”. But Egyptologist James Hoffmeier has suggested that we look at the hieroglyphic literally. Seen in this way, the obvious translation is the “parting of the sea” or the “parted sea”.

The El Arish stone is one of four similar shrines that were once a part of the Temple of Per-Sopdu at Saft el-Henna. The shrines were later disassembled and dispersed, one shrine remained on site and the other three placed at the major points of entry into Egypt (Canopus, Nubia and El Arish). They seem to have served some kind of amuletic function, protecting ancient Egypt from similar disasters.

Because the El Arish stone was being used for water for cattle, some of the inscriptions have been eroded, leaving the ones on the right and back sides of the monument mostly intact. In all, 74 lines are still legible. One line seems to be referencing Moses: he is referred to as the “Prince of the Desert” and his Israelite followers are called the “evil ones” or “evil-doers”. The Egyptian text also tells about how Pharaoh chased the Queen Mother, Tefnut, presumably the royal princess that once raised Moses, as she was leaving with the departing Israelites. This corroborates the Talmud (Sotah 12a) which states that the princess left on the Exodus, marrying the Israelite leader, Caleb son of Yefuneh.

The stone also seems to be reporting some of the Biblical plagues, including prolonged darkness and a terrible tempest. Furthermore, it mentions a specific location next to where the sea parted. The place is called “Pekharti”. Remarkably, this exact place is mentioned in Exodus 14:2,9 as the location where the Israelites camped just prior to the parting of the sea.
 
He didn't part the Red Sea. This was a mistranslation of the original text. It actually said Reed Sea, which was a marsh and not quite as spectacular to cross.
 
He didn't part the Red Sea. This was a mistranslation of the original text. It actually said Reed Sea, which was a marsh and not quite as spectacular to cross.

Oh, so now you are a hermeneutical specialist and can read Hebrew?

Or is this just another of you half-ass opinions?
 
As daws101 stated, it was the Reed Sea and not the Red Sea that was crossed by Moses.

And most Bible scholars agree with that interpretation. .. :cool:

Did Moses cross the Reed sea or the Red sea

The original name for this part of the Red Sea was believed to be the Reed Sea. Lakes in the north of the Red Sea are particularly well populated with reeds, but this does not detract from the authenticity of the biblical story.

Encyclopaedia Judaica states "RED SEA (Heb. PBs My, yam suf; lit. "Sea of Reeds")" (see related link - 'Where is the Red Sea'). Whilst the "Reed Sea" may be considered to be different to the "Red Sea" now, in fact the two were one and the same. The Red Sea still remains clearly defined as the place of the Israelites' crossing. The miracle of the parting of the waters for the Israelites and the drowning of the Egyptians remains the same. Archaeological research has discovered ancient coral-encrusted chariot wheels and other evidence in what is now known as the Red Sea to suggest that the Biblical account of the crossing of the Sea is historical fact.

To say it was the Reed Sea instead of the red Sea is to draw a modern distinction that the people of the time did not make.

The Reed Sea being part of the Red Sea, it is correct either way.

And come on, a play on 'Reed' sounding like 'Red' in English is contrived since it isn't that way in Hebrew.
 
"It was the Reed Sea, not the Red Sea... so there's nothing to see here... move along..."

As usual, the cynics will cling to half-ass theories based on jaded opinions, that they stumble across in their "studies." That is, if you define "studying" as skimming through the myriad, baseless talking points and misinterpretations found on anti-Christian websites.
 
As daws101 stated, it was the Reed Sea and not the Red Sea that was crossed by Moses.

And most Bible scholars agree with that interpretation. .. :cool:

If there is a God, they're wrong.

If there is a God, all the spectacular shit is true.

From Noah and his ark to Moses and his whirlpool, from Elijah's wet sacrifice bursting in to flame to Jesus walking on water and out of His tomb, ALL the unbelievable shit MUST be true.

If there is a God.



If there IS a God, and the God of Abraham is He, the stories about Him are His inspired http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/266556-word.html and therefore perfect.

All three of them. First The Torah for the 'chosen family', then The New Testament and The Koran for the rest of the Monkeys, giving all pathways to this God that Abraham claimed to have wrestled in the desert and then gotten both life-coaching tips and a valid deed to real property from.

Either the God of Abraham is fictitious or all three of the stories about Him are infallibly true.

What kind of God would he be otherwise? :dunno:
 
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"The biblical account states that the sea had crashed back over the Egyptian chariots (Ex. 14:23*28).

The men went into the sea ‑ and in the first half hour found the FIRST CHARIOT WHEEL. It was in eighty feet (about twenty‑five meters) of water. In just a few minutes, Ron found another one. And then, gradually, as his eyes became adjusted to what he was looking at, he found chariot wheels strewn all across the sea bed.
 
If there is a God, they're wrong.

If there is a God, all the spectacular shit is true.

From Noah and his ark to Moses and his whirlpool, from Elijah's wet sacrifice bursting in to flame to Jesus walking on water and out of His tomb, ALL the unbelievable shit MUST be true.

If there is a God.



If there IS a God, and the God of Abraham is He, the stories about Him are His inspired http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/266556-word.html and therefore perfect.

All three of them. First The Torah for the 'chosen family', then The New Testament and The Koran for the rest of the Monkeys, giving all pathways to this God that Abraham claimed to have wrestled in the desert and then gotten both life-coaching tips and a valid deed to real property from.

Either the God of Abraham is fictitious or all three of the stories about Him are infallibly true.

What kind of God would he be otherwise? :dunno:

Bullshit.

He could be the God of Sikhism or the God of Mormonism and have nothing to do with Abrahamic concepts of God at all.

It is funny to see you apetheists spouting off on religion as if you actually understand anything about it.
 
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"The biblical account states that the sea had crashed back over the Egyptian chariots (Ex. 14:23*28).

The men went into the sea ‑ and in the first half hour found the FIRST CHARIOT WHEEL. It was in eighty feet (about twenty‑five meters) of water. In just a few minutes, Ron found another one. And then, gradually, as his eyes became adjusted to what he was looking at, he found chariot wheels strewn all across the sea bed.

3,500 year old chariot wheels, under water.

Man, they just don't make them like they used to! I only got 8 years out of my 1975 Pontiac!
 
As daws101 stated, it was the Reed Sea and not the Red Sea that was crossed by Moses.

And most Bible scholars agree with that interpretation. .. :cool:

Did Moses cross the Reed sea or the Red sea

The original name for this part of the Red Sea was believed to be the Reed Sea. Lakes in the north of the Red Sea are particularly well populated with reeds, but this does not detract from the authenticity of the biblical story.

Encyclopaedia Judaica states "RED SEA (Heb. PBs My, yam suf; lit. "Sea of Reeds")" (see related link - 'Where is the Red Sea'). Whilst the "Reed Sea" may be considered to be different to the "Red Sea" now, in fact the two were one and the same. The Red Sea still remains clearly defined as the place of the Israelites' crossing. The miracle of the parting of the waters for the Israelites and the drowning of the Egyptians remains the same. Archaeological research has discovered ancient coral-encrusted chariot wheels and other evidence in what is now known as the Red Sea to suggest that the Biblical account of the crossing of the Sea is historical fact.
To say it was the Reed Sea instead of the red Sea is to draw a modern distinction that the people of the time did not make.

The Reed Sea being part of the Red Sea, it is correct either way.

And come on, a play on 'Reed' sounding like 'Red' in English is contrived since it isn't that way in Hebrew.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

It's a ridiculous meme that the foolish have latched onto. No, moses and his biographers didn't get "red" and "reed" mixed up...probably because they weren't speaking and writing in English.
 
Everyone knows the God of the Bible was a Space Alien using his superior technology to punk primitive people.



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Praise Jehovah!!!

Honestly, makes about as much sense as anything you guys are saying...
 
As daws101 stated, it was the Reed Sea and not the Red Sea that was crossed by Moses.

And most Bible scholars agree with that interpretation. .. :cool:

Did Moses cross the Reed sea or the Red sea

The original name for this part of the Red Sea was believed to be the Reed Sea. Lakes in the north of the Red Sea are particularly well populated with reeds, but this does not detract from the authenticity of the biblical story.

Encyclopaedia Judaica states "RED SEA (Heb. PBs My, yam suf; lit. "Sea of Reeds")" (see related link - 'Where is the Red Sea'). Whilst the "Reed Sea" may be considered to be different to the "Red Sea" now, in fact the two were one and the same. The Red Sea still remains clearly defined as the place of the Israelites' crossing. The miracle of the parting of the waters for the Israelites and the drowning of the Egyptians remains the same. Archaeological research has discovered ancient coral-encrusted chariot wheels and other evidence in what is now known as the Red Sea to suggest that the Biblical account of the crossing of the Sea is historical fact.

To say it was the Reed Sea instead of the red Sea is to draw a modern distinction that the people of the time did not make.

The Reed Sea being part of the Red Sea, it is correct either way.

And come on, a play on 'Reed' sounding like 'Red' in English is contrived since it isn't that way in Hebrew.

It is interesting to note that the alleged “chariot wheels” were a product of the always entertaining Ron Wyatt.

You may recall that Ron Wyatt was the same loon who claimed to have discovered the location of Noah’s Ark.


Ron Wyatt: Collosal Fraud
Ron Wyatt: Collosal Fraud ? Dispatches from the Creation Wars
 
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"The biblical account states that the sea had crashed back over the Egyptian chariots (Ex. 14:23*28).

The men went into the sea ‑ and in the first half hour found the FIRST CHARIOT WHEEL. It was in eighty feet (about twenty‑five meters) of water. In just a few minutes, Ron found another one. And then, gradually, as his eyes became adjusted to what he was looking at, he found chariot wheels strewn all across the sea bed.
Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea Hoax Persists

Wing Nut Daily recently featured a brand new article about a very old hoax, centered on the claim that chariot wheels have been found in the Red Sea. That anyone could see the photos of relatively new and shiny metal wheels and not be skeptical astonishes me. That anyone could simply take the word of a sensationalist news source that these objects are solid gold (and hence not covered by coral) and that no one has found and removed them suggests that some people have yet to learn the difference between faith and gullibility.

Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea Hoax Persists
 
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Everyone knows the God of the Bible was a Space Alien using his superior technology to punk primitive people.


Honestly, makes about as much sense as anything you guys are saying...

Again you show your ignorance.

Space aliens did not initiate the Big Bang while the Abrahamic religions believe He did and that He has initiated other universes and sentient races as well.

You just don't know what you are talking about Joe, so you make shit up and LIE like a little bitch.
 
Here's the thing. More adventures in Catholicism. By the time I got to High School, the Clergy weren't putting out the bullshit. They tried to claim it was the "Reed Sea" and the chariots got stuck in a swamp and drowned.

Which makes the whole thing a lot less impressive and miraculous.

SO either God was doing impressive things in the Bronze Age he isn't bothering to do now.

Or ignorant bronze age savages were applying supernatural explanations to prosaic events.

Which seems more logical to you?
 
I think that people are not giving the Catholic Church credit for the evolution in their dogma. After all, in 1965, they removed their condemnation of Galilio!

Was Galileo excommunicated

They would have done it sooner, but, they wanted to be absolutely sure that the earth circles the sun....
 
IN SEARCH OF

"The biblical account states that the sea had crashed back over the Egyptian chariots (Ex. 14:23*28).

The men went into the sea ‑ and in the first half hour found the FIRST CHARIOT WHEEL. It was in eighty feet (about twenty‑five meters) of water. In just a few minutes, Ron found another one. And then, gradually, as his eyes became adjusted to what he was looking at, he found chariot wheels strewn all across the sea bed.
Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea Hoax Persists

Wing Nut Daily recently featured a brand new article about a very old hoax, centered on the claim that chariot wheels have been found in the Red Sea. That anyone could see the photos of relatively new and shiny metal wheels and not be skeptical astonishes me. That anyone could simply take the word of a sensationalist news source that these objects are solid gold (and hence not covered by coral) and that no one has found and removed them suggests that some people have yet to learn the difference between faith and gullibility.

Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea Hoax Persists

People that claim these wheels are hoaxes don't know what the hell they are talking about.

1. With a few exceptions, none of the wheels are actually the original wheel, but are the shape left by the wheel in coral growth. Much like a fossil isn't the original animal bone, but nonliving sediment solidified in the cavity the bone left, 'these wheels' are actually coral that grew in the shape of the original wheels they grew on.

2. There were 4 wheels gilded in gold that were found that the coral would not have grown on and the gold would have preserved the wheels. Since the gold was precious the number of spokes would have been kept to a functional minimum, like the four depicted.

3. There are far more than just Wyatt that have been looking into this subject, so discrediting Wyatt hardly discredits the claims made.

WND » Chariots in Red Sea: ?Irrefutable evidence? » Print


A couple of videos for those interested that give a more concise description of the arguments for where the crossing of the Red Sea occurred and where Moses Mt Sinai actually is (Mt Kebr, a volcano in Midian in Saudi Arabia seems more believable).

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJ5JdBd4QU]Exodus Revealed part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A08_oRBAVPA]Mountain Of Fire - The Search For The True Mount Sinai (Part 1) - YouTube[/ame]

As for me, and my personal opinion, I have long believed that these stories in the Bible are based on oral legends for those stories that preceded Moses, but are very historical for the events of Moses time. There are different theories on how the exodus could have happened and when. This discusses some recent ideas.

The Parting of the Sea: How Volcanoes, Earthquakes, and Plagues Shaped the Exodus Story - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course, modern ancient era historians mostly dismiss the Exodus story as a fabrication, and simply refuse to evaluate any of the newer evidence as fundamentalist hoax.

But look at the video yourself. Look at that 'table' in the Gulf of Aqaba and tell me it couldn't have been two wheels and axle at one time, but now composed of coral.

I do not know nor do I think it critical to make a decision on. Nothing of my faith rests on such conclusions at all. These are just best guesses from three millennia away.
 
Here's the thing. More adventures in Catholicism. By the time I got to High School, the Clergy weren't putting out the bullshit. They tried to claim it was the "Reed Sea" and the chariots got stuck in a swamp and drowned.

Which makes the whole thing a lot less impressive and miraculous.

SO either God was doing impressive things in the Bronze Age he isn't bothering to do now.

Or ignorant bronze age savages were applying supernatural explanations to prosaic events.

Which seems more logical to you?

I wouldnt expect anything logical from an arrogant and known liar who dismisses the people of the bronze age as savages such as you.

Eat shit Joe.
 

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