Expelled Oklahoma U fraternity to sue university, possibly President Boren

[JoeB131]

Should Belle Knox be expelled from Duke for making porn?

Yes, absolutely.

 

[JoeMoma]

Should Belle Knox be expelled from Duke for making porn?

Yes, absolutely.

Okay, should students in a sexual relationship be expelled for shacking up (not married)?

 

[JoeB131]

Should Belle Knox be expelled from Duke for making porn?

Yes, absolutely.

Okay, should students in a sexual relationship be expelled for shacking up (not married)?

That isn't what she did. What she did was bring unwanted publicity to Duke's image. Especially since her claim was she was doing porn to pay the $60,000.00(!) tuition.

 

[Steinlight]

There is a big difference in pulling a fraternity's charter and expelling individual students. By the way, did any of the students that were there make an official complaint to the university?

More telling

Did any of them protest that what they were doing was wrong?

If no one complained about a hostel environment, then the case of expelling the students for creating a hostel environment is weak!

Would you approve of Belle Knox being expelled from Duke for making porn?

Seems the entire nation is complaining about a hostile educational environment

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

In this case, it was the feelings of an entire university

Sucks being a racist these days doesn't it?

Better to be a racist than a hypersensitive control freak like you.

 

[JoeMoma]

Should Belle Knox be expelled from Duke for making porn?

Yes, absolutely.

Okay, should students in a sexual relationship be expelled for shacking up (not married)?

That isn't what she did. What she did was bring unwanted publicity to Duke's image. Especially since her claim was she was doing porn to pay the $60,000.00(!) tuition.

Of course they are not the same. But they are things that many people find to be immoral.

Who decides what things are immoral enough for a student to be expelled and what things are okay, the university president? Is the level of publicity the standard?

 

[Steinlight]

Oh wow, he has lawyers willing to take up his case, it must be moral and legal because of this

Legal in that he will prevail in court. Moral because some young shithead singing about lynching black people pretty much deserves all the score he can get.

The Oklahoma University is absolutely the state, it is a public university, and thus is a government institution. Now you are just sounding like an idiot on top of being a shrill faggot and a control freak. Not only is the State enacting speech codes, especially for words in private among voluntarily associating adults, entirely tyrannical and therefore immoral, it is illegal under the First Amendment, as the case law I cited shows.

Dude, besides your weird fascination with my sex life, the fact is the University has a code of conduct covering EXACTLY these kind of issues that these two punks signed when they enrolled.

They don't have a leg to stand on.

The very definition of free speech is to be immune from state sanction, to be free of the consequences of State action against you.

Speech control is thought control.

And if the state were throwing them in jail, you might have a point. But in this case, a university is revoking their contract for their violation of terms of that contract.

OMG they were literally singing about killing people. I remember that time someone told me to literally kill myself and I got that huge settlement because of his mean words.

at how some unspecified code of conduct overrides the 1A and established case law on free speech for college students.

Not only is your position stupid on a legal basis. It would still be a dumb one to hold without the 1A. Expelling someone for an edgy joke in private is crazy. Speech codes like this are when annoying political correctness slips over into repressive tyranny.

These kids did absolutely nothing immoral. They were joking in private among friends. The immoral actors here are the state punishing them for wrong think.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Will college kids get expelled now for telling racist jokes "in private"?

Doesn't seem so

Big difference between that and screaming at the top of your lungs at a fraternity function

No fraternity should tolerate it......SAE encouraged it

There is a big difference in pulling a fraternity's charter and expelling individual students. By the way, did any of the students that were there make an official complaint to the university?

Obviously, the one who turned over the cell phone video.

 

[JoeMoma]

Will college kids get expelled now for telling racist jokes "in private"?

Doesn't seem so

Big difference between that and screaming at the top of your lungs at a fraternity function

No fraternity should tolerate it......SAE encouraged it

There is a big difference in pulling a fraternity's charter and expelling individual students. By the way, did any of the students that were there make an official complaint to the university?

Obviously, the one who turned over the cell phone video.

Was it an official complaint to the university, or did someone simply post the video on youtube?

 

[Carla_Danger]

Will college kids get expelled now for telling racist jokes "in private"?

Doesn't seem so

Big difference between that and screaming at the top of your lungs at a fraternity function

No fraternity should tolerate it......SAE encouraged it

There is a big difference in pulling a fraternity's charter and expelling individual students. By the way, did any of the students that were there make an official complaint to the university?

Obviously, the one who turned over the cell phone video.

Was it an official complaint to the university, or did someone simply post the video on youtube?

Someone on that bus was obviously offended, and sent the video to a campus group called "Unheard," which describes itself as "an alliance of black students organized for change within campus administration and atmosphere."

 

[Vikrant]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

 

[Carla_Danger]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

The audacity of duh...this woman is an idiot.

 

[Vikrant]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

The audacity of duh...this woman is an idiot.

She is 78 year old and she is the house mom. I was under impression that house moms were supposed to provide moderating effect on otherwise wild fraternity boys.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

The audacity of duh...this woman is an idiot.

She is 78 year old and she is the house mom. I was under impression that house moms were supposed to provide moderating effect on otherwise wild fraternity boys.

She was having a party with them. I read that she would drink with those under age boys. Doesn't sound to me like she was too worried about having a place to live.

Never a dull moment here in Oklahoma.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

So you want to deny people due process and constitutional rights because of Football?

So the mob wins every time? So only speech everyone likes is protected?

Do you people even consider what you are proposing?

What's next? We expel Christians who oppose gay marriage because it creates a "hostile environment"?

If they are doing something overt like Westboro baptist church type protest constantly on campus, then yes they are creating a hostile environment.

Yes. Inside the privacy of their frat gatherings they're creating a hostile environment.

Once it hits youtube, it's no longer private.

You mean leaked?

It doesn't fucking matter.

I say we tattoo SAE on their foreheads, then send them on a cross country magical mystery singing bus tour so they can sing their song for everyone.

They can sing at halftime for all the college football games. Do you think the little pussies can handle that?

Yeah, actually it does matter, especially if you're accusing them of creating a hostile environment. It's not reasonable to hold people accountable for what they do in private and don't intend to become public.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

The audacity of duh...this woman is an idiot.

She is 78 year old and she is the house mom. I was under impression that house moms were supposed to provide moderating effect on otherwise wild fraternity boys.

Alcohol.

 

[Steinlight]

If they are doing something overt like Westboro baptist church type protest constantly on campus, then yes they are creating a hostile environment.

Yes. Inside the privacy of their frat gatherings they're creating a hostile environment.

Once it hits youtube, it's no longer private.

You mean leaked?

It doesn't fucking matter.

I say we tattoo SAE on their foreheads, then send them on a cross country magical mystery singing bus tour so they can sing their song for everyone.

They can sing at halftime for all the college football games. Do you think the little pussies can handle that?

Yeah, actually it does matter, especially if you're accusing them of creating a hostile environment. It's not reasonable to hold people accountable for what they do in private and don't intend to become public.

Making a joke about naggers in private with your buddies is "hostile", but harassing the family of people who say mean words at their house, totally well adjusted behavior .

Protesters gather outside Texas home of racist University of Oklahoma frat boy Parker Rice Daily Mail Online

 

[Carla_Danger]

If they are doing something overt like Westboro baptist church type protest constantly on campus, then yes they are creating a hostile environment.

Yes. Inside the privacy of their frat gatherings they're creating a hostile environment.

Once it hits youtube, it's no longer private.

You mean leaked?

It doesn't fucking matter.

I say we tattoo SAE on their foreheads, then send them on a cross country magical mystery singing bus tour so they can sing their song for everyone.

They can sing at halftime for all the college football games. Do you think the little pussies can handle that?

Yeah, actually it does matter, especially if you're accusing them of creating a hostile environment. It's not reasonable to hold people accountable for what they do in private and don't intend to become public.

They were singing while others held up their cell phones to film them. How private is that, ding-dong?

 

[Vikrant]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

The audacity of duh...this woman is an idiot.

She is 78 year old and she is the house mom. I was under impression that house moms were supposed to provide moderating effect on otherwise wild fraternity boys.

She was having a party with them. I read that she would drink with those under age boys. Doesn't sound to me like she was too worried about having a place to live.

Never a dull moment here in Oklahoma.

I did not know you were from Oklahoma. That is indeed an exciting place. I have worked there for a short period of time. I have done some moderate partying myself when I was there

 

[Vikrant]

Yes. Inside the privacy of their frat gatherings they're creating a hostile environment.

Once it hits youtube, it's no longer private.

You mean leaked?

It doesn't fucking matter.

I say we tattoo SAE on their foreheads, then send them on a cross country magical mystery singing bus tour so they can sing their song for everyone.

They can sing at halftime for all the college football games. Do you think the little pussies can handle that?

Yeah, actually it does matter, especially if you're accusing them of creating a hostile environment. It's not reasonable to hold people accountable for what they do in private and don't intend to become public.

Making a joke about naggers in private with your buddies is "hostile", but harassing the family of people who say mean words at their house, totally well adjusted behavior .

Protesters gather outside Texas home of racist University of Oklahoma frat boy Parker Rice Daily Mail Online

Steincrap the resident racist has arrived.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I guess age does not guarantee wisdom

The audacity of duh...this woman is an idiot.

She is 78 year old and she is the house mom. I was under impression that house moms were supposed to provide moderating effect on otherwise wild fraternity boys.

She was having a party with them. I read that she would drink with those under age boys. Doesn't sound to me like she was too worried about having a place to live.

Never a dull moment here in Oklahoma.

I did not know you were from Oklahoma. That is indeed an exciting place. I have worked there for a short period of time. I have done some moderate partying myself when I was there

Where in Oklahoma?

I have a love/hate relationship with my home state right now. It was a great place to grow up, and the people are friendly, they're just not very bright when it comes to politics.