Zone1 False religion is not from God.. who knew?

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So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"
 
There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one.

The fault is that you are blind and stupid .

Show us which Church he founded -- where , when and how.


And then find yourself a good therapist .
 
So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"
lol. They say it all the time. You just don't like the facts.
The historical facts:
Peter started the first church in Jerusalem.
Peter did not start the Catholic Church.
Peter was dead for 300 years before the Catholic church was established.
He was not the 1st. Pope.

Peter started Christ's original church in Jerusalem. 10 days after Christ ascended to Heaven. Right after they received the Holy Spirit. Peter preached in his church for 15 years while Paul started the churches that Jesus acknowledges in Revelation and there were others that were started by various disciples. The Antioch church for one. The Catholic church came much, much later.
There are the facts you run from. Religious and historic. :up:
And here is some scripture for you to shy away from. It's Peter, in Jerusalem, speaking to his congregation:

Acts 2: 36-38 “So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!”
Peter’s words pierced their hearts, and they said to him and to the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?”
Peter replied, “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
.

Scripture clarifies your bs, and pronounces exactly what Peter was doing in Jerusalem:
Acts 2:41 Those who believed what Peter said were baptized and added to the church that day—about 3,000 in all.
^

Added to what? to what? to the what? Did scripture say they were added to the church that day?
And nary a Pope in sight...
 
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lol. They say it all the time. You just don't like the facts.
The historical facts:
Peter started the first church in Jerusalem.
Peter did not start the Catholic Church.
Peter was dead for 300 years before the Catholic church was established.
He was not the 1st. Pope.

Peter started Christ's original church in Jerusalem. 10 days after Christ ascended to Heaven. Right after they received the Holy Spirit. Peter preached in his church for 15 years while Paul started the churches that Jesus acknowledges in Revelation and there were others that were started by various disciples. The Antioch church for one. The Catholic church came much, much later.
There are the facts you run from. Religious and historic. :up:
And here is some scripture for you to shy away from. It's Peter, in Jerusalem, speaking to his congregation:

Acts 2: 36-38 “So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!”
Peter’s words pierced their hearts, and they said to him and to the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?”
Peter replied, “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
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Scripture clarifies your bs, and pronounces exactly what Peter was doing in Jerusalem:
Acts 2:41 Those who believed what Peter said were baptized and added to the church that day—about 3,000 in all.
^

Added to what? to what? to the what? Did scripture say they were added to the church that day?
And nary a Pope in sight...

I would read this but there is this pesky little FACT

You are malicious toward anyone who anyone disagrees w/ you

so there's that
 
I would read this but there is this pesky little FACT

You are malicious toward anyone who anyone disagrees w/ you

so there's that
Of course you read it, misery.
Stating the facts isn't malice, it is stating the facts. You malign anyone here who is not Catholic.
What you can't do is address scripture. It says Peter started the first church in Jerusalem. Leave your personal attacks aside, and confront the scripture. The verse that tells you exactly where Peter started Christ's church and when. It's those pesky little Bible facts you have a problem with, not me.

Acts 2:41 Those who believed what Peter said were baptized and added to the church that day—about 3,000 in all.
 
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False religion is not from God.. who knew?​



False religion ( Your term) can only be from God because God and Universe are one and the same thing .

And you are part of that , whether you like it or not.
As am I , and every other person who has lived , is living and will live .

Methinks you are obliged to change your understanding of God because his Universe is a spectrum which holds the good and bad as well as every possible mix of the two .
God is no Goody .
He is everything which includes what we choose to see as shades of Good , right through to Bad .

And of course entrained Cultists simply cannot or will not grasp this .
 
So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"
You might want to have a talk with some of the Orthodox Churches because I do believe they are of a different opinion. At any rate, don't expect your crowing about being the "real church" is going to hold any water when you realize that great cloud of worshippers before the throne comes from all walks of life and all groups of those who follow and obey Christ. The name on the door of that building you go to won't mean a hill of beans.
 
So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"
The original Church of Jesus Christ would be a church with Jesus Christ's name in it. Jesus said establish all things in his name. Well, since the birth of Jesus Christ to 1830, there was no church established in his name. RCC does not have his name. Most other Christian churches don't have his name either. they are usually established under the name of an apostle or prophet like John the Baptist. Or, an idea or a part of the priesthood order of God. In 1830, finally Jesus Christ ended the great apostasy where no person on the planet had the authority to do anything in Christ's name. Jesus established his church again, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. "Latter-day Saints" is added on to distinguish between the Saints (members) in the last days as to the Saints (members) in the days Jesus Christ was preaching for the 3 years. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the restored Church of Jesus Christ with authority and priesthood to do all the work necessary before His Second Coming.
 
So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"

Just shut up kid. ANYONE who believes that Jesus came from , died for our sins and was resurrected is a Christian. Go sit on the Pope's lap.
 
The original Church of Jesus Christ would be a church with Jesus Christ's name in it. Jesus said establish all things in his name. Well, since the birth of Jesus Christ to 1830, there was no church established in his name. RCC does not have his name. Most other Christian churches don't have his name either. they are usually established under the name of an apostle or prophet like John the Baptist. Or, an idea or a part of the priesthood order of God. In 1830, finally Jesus Christ ended the great apostasy where no person on the planet had the authority to do anything in Christ's name. Jesus established his church again, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. "Latter-day Saints" is added on to distinguish between the Saints (members) in the last days as to the Saints (members) in the days Jesus Christ was preaching for the 3 years. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the restored Church of Jesus Christ with authority and priesthood to do all the work necessary before His Second Coming.
Being founded in Jesus' name means a whole lot more than just painting His name on the church building.
 
Being founded in Jesus' name means a whole lot more than just painting His name on the church building.
Not really. Why can’t 99% of the Christian churches do just one thing in his name, name their church after Him? Jesus said DO ALL THINGS in his name. If you knew anything more about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints you would know every prayer and every blessing and every ordinance is done in the name of the Son.
 
Not really. Why can’t 99% of the Christian churches do just one thing in his name, name their church after Him? Jesus said DO ALL THINGS in his name. If you knew anything more about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints you would know every prayer and every blessing and every ordinance is done in the name of the Son.
Because simply putting His name in your organization's title doesn't really mean much. Making His commands your organization's goals and actions, OTOH, do. There are many organizations that use His name and act totally the opposite of how He said His children are supposed to act. IOW, don't pretend that putting His name in your organization's title makes you more special than the rest of His body that call on His name, especially when you add to the Scriptures, something He does not approve.
 
Because simply putting His name in your organization's title doesn't really mean much. Making His commands your organization's goals and actions, OTOH, do. There are many organizations that use His name and act totally the opposite of how He said His children are supposed to act. IOW, don't pretend that putting His name in your organization's title makes you more special than the rest of His body that call on His name, especially when you add to the Scriptures, something He does not approve.
You are being blinded by the craftiness of men mingled with scripture. The legal and spiritual name of His Church was given to Joseph Smith directly by Jesus Christ. And, keeping with scripture, it was established in His name, even Jesus Christ. Do all things in the name of Jesus Christ.
Now, explain why you think any Latter-day Saint acts differently than Jesus Christ did? Do we ignore the Lord’s simple commandment to name His Church in His name? It is clear you and most other Churches couldn’t even do that one simple commandment. And you try to show us any scriptural knowledge? 🤣
 
You are being blinded by the craftiness of men mingled with scripture. The legal and spiritual name of His Church was given to Joseph Smith directly by Jesus Christ. And, keeping with scripture, it was established in His name, even Jesus Christ. Do all things in the name of Jesus Christ.
Now, explain why you think any Latter-day Saint acts differently than Jesus Christ did? Do we ignore the Lord’s simple commandment to name His Church in His name? It is clear you and most other Churches couldn’t even do that one simple commandment. And you try to show us any scriptural knowledge? 🤣
I have seen the mural on the wall in your temple in DC and made note of the fact that every face running toward Christ as He descends from the clouds is white, while the brown skinned faces were running away from Him. Did you think that would go unnoticed? That's why I say that putting a name on your organization does little for you.

Did you forget that Jesus said in the Resurrection we will not be married, as there will be no need for marriage, while you insist that marriage is eternal?

This is what happens when you give a man, in your case, J Smith, more authority than the writers of the Bible itself. You end up believing him over the Bible.
 
I have seen the mural on the wall in your temple in DC and made note of the fact that every face running toward Christ as He descends from the clouds is white, while the brown skinned faces were running away from Him. Did you think that would go unnoticed? That's why I say that putting a name on your organization does little for you.

Did you forget that Jesus said in the Resurrection we will not be married, as there will be no need for marriage, while you insist that marriage is eternal?

This is what happens when you give a man, in your case, J Smith, more authority than the writers of the Bible itself. You end up believing him over the Bible.
That's not what he said. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
This is correct. The judgment comes before our resurrection. So, the marriage or sealing for time and all eternity must come before the resurrection. In fact, it has to be done on the earth because there is no marriage ceremony in heaven. And, who says angels are not sealed together for time and all eternity? Do you have any scripture that says angels cannot be with their husband or wife after they ascend back to heaven from the earth at their death? Again, as it has been explained to you by me and others, The world was in a state of total apostasy until the heavens were opened back up in these the latter days. Back to the problem you all have because you can't even name your Church by the name of Jesus Christ. A simple thing to do.
Only a racist would notice the mural say the difference in the people was about race. It's not about race. It's about having a bright countenance versus a dark countenance. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
... they don't like or accept the real Original.

true of the desert religions.

- the heavenly religion of antiquity, the triumph of good vs evil - is what jesus taught and with those others in the 1st century died for - the choice as a&e made is for each individual to chose their own determination than live in servitude and denial.
 
So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"
The real original. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
 
That's not what he said. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
This is correct. The judgment comes before our resurrection. So, the marriage or sealing for time and all eternity must come before the resurrection. In fact, it has to be done on the earth because there is no marriage ceremony in heaven. And, who says angels are not sealed together for time and all eternity? Do you have any scripture that says angels cannot be with their husband or wife after they ascend back to heaven from the earth at their death?
Show in Scripture where angels are born on earth, live here and die. And by Scripture, I don't mean what J Smith made up that only he was able to translate.
Again, as it has been explained to you by me and others, The world was in a state of total apostasy until the heavens were opened back up in these the latter days.
According to J Smith. According to Scripture, God always preserves at least a remnant of His people throughout all time. Noah was not destroyed because he was righteous. Lot was preserved from destruction. Moses and Jesus Himself were spared from Satan's attempt to eliminate God's rescuers. If the world is truly in total apostasy, that's usually when God wipes it out and starts all over, just ask Noah's contemporaries.
Back to the problem you all have because you can't even name your Church by the name of Jesus Christ. A simple thing to do.
All believers that have faith in Jesus Christ bear His name.
Only a racist would notice the mural say the difference in the people was about race. It's not about race. It's about having a bright countenance versus a dark countenance. Sorry to disappoint you.
When the faces are not only dark, but bear distinguishing characteristics of African descent, it's racial. Take a closer look and tell me what kind of hair do those people have?
 

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