Federal judges rewrite constitution again. Say illegals have right to drivers licenses

[Ernie S.]

A drivers license should not be a proof of citizenship, it should be a proof of your driving ability

States all set various requirements for obtaining a driver's license. You can be suspended for failing to pay property tax on your vehicle, for being behind on child support. Why can they not deny a license to someone who has entered the country illegally?

 

[AmericanFirst]

A drivers license should not be a proof of citizenship, it should be a proof of your driving ability

Yet you are against voter id? Can't have it both ways idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

A drivers license should not be a proof of citizenship, it should be a proof of your driving ability

Yet you are against voter id? Can't have it both ways idiot.

I'm OK with voter ID as soon as you have issued every American a valid ID

Better get started

 

[JakeStarkey]

a national ID card as a voter's card: sure

sensible that all drivers have driver ID

 

[Harry Dresden]

A drivers license indicates you have the required skills to operate a motor vehicle on our roads

I would rather illegals have demonstrated those skills than not

and have Ins and Registration for the Car...

 

[Harry Dresden]

A drivers license should not be a proof of citizenship, it should be a proof of your driving ability

States all set various requirements for obtaining a driver's license. You can be suspended for failing to pay property tax on your vehicle, for being behind on child support. Why can they not deny a license to someone who has entered the country illegally?

because it wont stop the guy from driving WITHOUT ins.....

 

[Ernie S.]

Might stop him from voting though.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Might stop him from voting though.

That's what this is all about. Making it easy for illegals to vote.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Of course, there is nothing in the constitution about rights for people that aren't even allowed to be here.!! The judges took their usual bribes from the Illegal Alien Lobby.

Supreme Court denies stay path cleared for dreamers to get licenses

dec 17 2014
For more than two years, Gov. Jan Brewer has waged a costly legal battle to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers.

She has lost one court decision after another.

On Wednesday, less than three weeks before she leaves office, Brewer was dealt another defeat when the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for "dreamers" to get licenses.

The court denied Brewer's request for a delay that would have allowed her to keep denying licenses to dreamers while she prepares an appeal to the justices.

Within hours of the Supreme Court's decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals instructed U.S. District Judge David Campbell to issue a preliminary injunction blocking Brewer's driver's-license ban.

Wrong again, as usual.

All persons in the United States are entitled to equal protection of the law, including state laws that regulate the issuing of a driver's license. Because those undocumented are not 'illegal' until found guilty in a court of law, and because they are persons in every sense of the word, they are entitled to apply for a driver's license. For the state to deny undocumented immigrants the opportunity to apply based on a presumption of guilt is un-Constitutional.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Of course, there is nothing in the constitution about rights for people that aren't even allowed to be here.!! The judges took their usual bribes from the Illegal Alien Lobby.

Supreme Court denies stay path cleared for dreamers to get licenses

dec 17 2014
For more than two years, Gov. Jan Brewer has waged a costly legal battle to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers.

She has lost one court decision after another.

On Wednesday, less than three weeks before she leaves office, Brewer was dealt another defeat when the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for "dreamers" to get licenses.

The court denied Brewer's request for a delay that would have allowed her to keep denying licenses to dreamers while she prepares an appeal to the justices.

Within hours of the Supreme Court's decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals instructed U.S. District Judge David Campbell to issue a preliminary injunction blocking Brewer's driver's-license ban.

Uh - really.

Which article of the Constitution refers to driving?

The 10th Amendment, silly.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

Incorrect.

Although the states are at liberty to enact laws where appropriate, the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause requires the states to allow all persons in the United States equal access to state laws, having nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

shoots, your interpretation of the U.S. Constitution is stone cold wrong.

Doubt it, the lefts is. Illegals don't deserve drivers licenses, period. Stupid libtards.

Actually this is both ignorant and stupid.

One is not 'illegal' until found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization. Until then undocumented immigrants are entitled to equal protection of the law, including applying for a driver's license.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In most states you can lose your license for getting behind on child support, but people who are in the country illegally get a pass? WTF! Really?

You don't understand.

The issue has nothing to do with child support or remaining eligible for a driver's license.

The issue concerns being allowed to apply – where the state may not disallow someone from applying simply because it 'thinks' someone 'might' be in the country illegally.

It's possible an undocumented immigrant may not be eligible for a driver's license having nothing to do with his immigration status, which is perfectly appropriate; or an undocumented immigrant may subsequently lose his license for reasons other than his immigration status, the same as everyone else. But the state must at least allow everyone to apply pursuant to the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause.

 

[Yurt]

shoots, your interpretation of the U.S. Constitution is stone cold wrong.

Doubt it, the lefts is. Illegals don't deserve drivers licenses, period. Stupid libtards.

Actually this is both ignorant and stupid.

One is not 'illegal' until found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization. Until then undocumented immigrants are entitled to equal protection of the law, including applying for a driver's license.

this quite possibly the dumbest post i've ever read. they are illegal aliens, a judge is not necessary to call them illegal. nonsense.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Of course, there is nothing in the constitution about rights for people that aren't even allowed to be here.!! The judges took their usual bribes from the Illegal Alien Lobby.

Supreme Court denies stay path cleared for dreamers to get licenses

dec 17 2014
For more than two years, Gov. Jan Brewer has waged a costly legal battle to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers.

She has lost one court decision after another.

On Wednesday, less than three weeks before she leaves office, Brewer was dealt another defeat when the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for "dreamers" to get licenses.

The court denied Brewer's request for a delay that would have allowed her to keep denying licenses to dreamers while she prepares an appeal to the justices.

Within hours of the Supreme Court's decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals instructed U.S. District Judge David Campbell to issue a preliminary injunction blocking Brewer's driver's-license ban.

Uh - really.

Which article of the Constitution refers to driving?

Immigration is a state issue.

Driving is guaranteed by the Constitution and the Ninth amendment.


The reason is guaranteed by the Constitution is because no SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED POWER WAS GRANTED authorizing the federal government to regulate it.


.

Incorrect.

Immigration is a Federal issue:

'The Federal Government’s broad, undoubted power over immigration and alien status rests, in part, on its constitutional power to “establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” Art. I, §8, cl. 4, and on its inherent sovereign power to control and conduct foreign relations, see Toll v. Moreno, 458 U. S. 1.

The Supremacy Clause gives Congress the power to preempt state law. tate laws are preempted when they conflict with federal law, including when they stand “as an obstacle to the accomplishment and execution of the full purposes and objectives of Congress.” Hines v. Davidowitz, 312 U. S. 52. Pp. 7–8.'

ARIZONA v. UNITED STATES LII Legal Information Institute

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They'll fall back on the Commerce Clause because drivers can cross state lines. It's a catch all they use frequently.

Ignorant nonsense.

The issue has nothing to do with Commerce Clause jurisprudence.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Of course, there is nothing in the constitution about rights for people that aren't even allowed to be here.!! The judges took their usual bribes from the Illegal Alien Lobby.

Supreme Court denies stay path cleared for dreamers to get licenses

dec 17 2014
For more than two years, Gov. Jan Brewer has waged a costly legal battle to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers.

She has lost one court decision after another.

On Wednesday, less than three weeks before she leaves office, Brewer was dealt another defeat when the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for "dreamers" to get licenses.

The court denied Brewer's request for a delay that would have allowed her to keep denying licenses to dreamers while she prepares an appeal to the justices.

Within hours of the Supreme Court's decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals instructed U.S. District Judge David Campbell to issue a preliminary injunction blocking Brewer's driver's-license ban.

The 9th Circuit is a joke. Take the would-be decisions of that farce out of US History and the Ideological Left is roughly where it was when Wilson was leading it; a handful of foolish academics, sitting around thinking foolishly.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Of course, there is nothing in the constitution about rights for people that aren't even allowed to be here.!! The judges took their usual bribes from the Illegal Alien Lobby.

Supreme Court denies stay path cleared for dreamers to get licenses

dec 17 2014
For more than two years, Gov. Jan Brewer has waged a costly legal battle to keep driver's licenses out of the hands of young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers.

She has lost one court decision after another.

On Wednesday, less than three weeks before she leaves office, Brewer was dealt another defeat when the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for "dreamers" to get licenses.

The court denied Brewer's request for a delay that would have allowed her to keep denying licenses to dreamers while she prepares an appeal to the justices.

Within hours of the Supreme Court's decision, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals instructed U.S. District Judge David Campbell to issue a preliminary injunction blocking Brewer's driver's-license ban.

Uh - really.

Which article of the Constitution refers to driving?

The 10th Amendment, silly.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

People who are not citizens... do not enjoy protections of the constitution which governs protections for citizens.

"The People" are citizens, NOT Foreigners adhering to their foreign ideas.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A drivers license should not be a proof of citizenship, it should be a proof of your driving ability

States all set various requirements for obtaining a driver's license. You can be suspended for failing to pay property tax on your vehicle, for being behind on child support. Why can they not deny a license to someone who has entered the country illegally?

Because that person hasn't been found guilty of entering the country illegally. And when found guilty of entering the country illegally the issue of obtaining a driver's license becomes moot, as they're now subject to being deported. .

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Because that person hasn't been found guilty of entering the country illegally. ...

The person is not a citizen.

The person is a foreign national.

The person has no authorization, to be here.

The person is therefore guilty of being here, outside the law... thus the person is guilty of being here ILLEGALLY.

Such does not require adjudication, as it is an axiomatic fact.

 

[Yurt]

i bet clayton would tell a store owner he is stealing from that he is not taking the candy illegally because a judge hasn't found him guilty