felon with a gun...say it ain't so...

[rdean]

hmmm...but...how can this guy have this gun...he is a convicted felon and according to federal, state and local Chicago gun laws...he can't have that gun...

Chicago Police: 3,900 illegal firearms seized so far in 2014 - FOX 32 News Chicago



Can someone explain something to me...the mayor of Chicago and his...police commissioner, blame illegal guns from out of state for the gun violence in Chicago. keep in mind that until Macdonald and Heller, Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city...which of course meant that only criminals had guns. Now there are states where people own and carry guns and gun stores are common and plentiful in their cities...and they don't have the murder rates of Chicago...

soooo, please tell me how this is a gun problem...and not a problem of generations of children raising children on government welfare, while the democrat party undermines the school system, the police and drives out business while,making the city comfortable,for drugs and drug gangs...

Gun Deaths in Rural and Urban Settings: Recommendations for Prevention

suicides accounted for nearly 70% of gun deaths in both urban and rural areas

New CDC Report Finds Stunning Suicide Increases Among Middle-Aged Americans | PBS NewsHour

Most disturbing, that spike among the middle-aged, a 28 percent rise overall, a 40 percent jump among white Americans, and among men in their 50s, suicides increased by more than 48 percent. Guns remained the leading method used in all suicides

Wow, look at that. Looks like every Red State is more dangerous than thug ridden Illinois. Yep, the GOP is more likely to blow their own brains out than giving a black guy in Chicago the chance to do it for them. Who knew?

How unsurprising that you equate suicide with "dangerous". People who commit suicide are going to do so. That doesn't make them "dangerous". What an ignorant twat.

How many of those suicides shot someone else first?

 

[2aguy]

Wow, look at that. Looks like every Red State is more dangerous than thug ridden Illinois. Yep, the GOP is more likely to blow their own brains out than giving a black guy in Chicago the chance to do it for them. Who knew?

Careful...those red states...have major population cities run by...that's right...democrats...and their policies which promote gun violence...for example...Tennessee...Most violent state...six largest cities are run by democrats...

Sooo...if these states,also receive a,lot of federal welfare,money...it is,probably because the cities run by the democrats,are a real mess...probably dragging down the rest of the state...

 

[ChrisL]

Gun Deaths in Rural and Urban Settings: Recommendations for Prevention

suicides accounted for nearly 70% of gun deaths in both urban and rural areas

New CDC Report Finds Stunning Suicide Increases Among Middle-Aged Americans | PBS NewsHour

Most disturbing, that spike among the middle-aged, a 28 percent rise overall, a 40 percent jump among white Americans, and among men in their 50s, suicides increased by more than 48 percent. Guns remained the leading method used in all suicides

Wow, look at that. Looks like every Red State is more dangerous than thug ridden Illinois. Yep, the GOP is more likely to blow their own brains out than giving a black guy in Chicago the chance to do it for them. Who knew?

How unsurprising that you equate suicide with "dangerous". People who commit suicide are going to do so. That doesn't make them "dangerous". What an ignorant twat.

How many of those suicides shot someone else first?

So what exactly are you suggesting? Are you a banner?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city

Wrong.

Parts of the city have gun control laws. Parts do not. Walk across the street and buy a gun.

BUT-

Chicago is the third largest city in the US and yet their murder rate is 18.5 per 100K people - or 21st in the nation - so, even thought the 'control' laws are only for parts of the metropolitan area, they are actually quite effective.

In 1994, Chicago had 928 murders. Last year, they had 440.

In point of fact, if one looks at the entire picture, Chicago has made incredible progress BECAUSE of their efforts to get guns out of the hands of the very people the nutters want to see armed.

I've posted the link to these facts several times but because facts don't support the nutters' agenda, its ignored. Well, get used to it because sanity is making progress.

 

[WinterBorn]

Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city

Wrong.

Parts of the city have gun control laws. Parts do not. Walk across the street and buy a gun.

BUT-

Chicago is the third largest city in the US and yet their murder rate is 18.5 per 100K people - or 21st in the nation - so, even thought the 'control' laws are only for parts of the metropolitan area, they are actually quite effective.

In 1994, Chicago had 928 murders. Last year, they had 440.

In point of fact, if one looks at the entire picture, Chicago has made incredible progress BECAUSE of their efforts to get guns out of the hands of the very people the nutters want to see armed.

I've posted the link to these facts several times but because facts don't support the nutters' agenda, its ignored. Well, get used to it because sanity is making progress.

You have also posted several times about the mass shootings. Of course, you included the domestic violence deaths into that total, which skews it a bit.

But we average 80 deaths from mass shootings by strangers every year. So in the US we average about 3.9 deaths per 1 million people. If 18.5 per 100k is good, then 3.9 per 1 million must be excellent? And yet you have based your argument for stricter gun controls and limiting magazine capacities on the 3.9 per million.

I guess the anti-gun nutters don't have to use the same logic?

 

[Impenitent]

hmmm...but...how can this guy have this gun...he is a convicted felon and according to federal, state and local Chicago gun laws...he can't have that gun...

Chicago Police: 3,900 illegal firearms seized so far in 2014 - FOX 32 News Chicago

Officers entered an apartment through an open door and found the woman, who said a man with a gun had just ran to the back of the home, police said. When officers ran to the rear porch, they saw the 22-year-old man attempting to conceal a handgun.

Officers recovered the loaded semi-automatic pistol and the man, who was a convicted felon, was charged with unlawful use of a weapon by a felon, police said.

Can someone explain something to me...the mayor of Chicago and his...police commissioner, blame illegal guns from out of state for the gun violence in Chicago. keep in mind that until Macdonald and Heller, Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city...which of course meant that only criminals had guns. Now there are states where people own and carry guns and gun stores are common and plentiful in their cities...and they don't have the murder rates of Chicago...

soooo, please tell me how this is a gun problem...and not a problem of generations of children raising children on government welfare, while the democrat party undermines the school system, the police and drives out business while,making the city comfortable,for drugs and drug gangs...

It should be ok, since NRA General Counsel Robert Dowlut was convicted of murder in a 1963 crime spree.

The NRA's Murder Mystery | Mother Jones

Amazing that nobody noticed this (well I know why the nutters didn"t notice!)

Among the many things this says, doesn't it say that an convicted murderer can become a solid citizen?

 

[Andylusion]

hmmm...but...how can this guy have this gun...he is a convicted felon and according to federal, state and local Chicago gun laws...he can't have that gun...

Chicago Police: 3,900 illegal firearms seized so far in 2014 - FOX 32 News Chicago

Officers entered an apartment through an open door and found the woman, who said a man with a gun had just ran to the back of the home, police said. When officers ran to the rear porch, they saw the 22-year-old man attempting to conceal a handgun.

Officers recovered the loaded semi-automatic pistol and the man, who was a convicted felon, was charged with unlawful use of a weapon by a felon, police said.

Can someone explain something to me...the mayor of Chicago and his...police commissioner, blame illegal guns from out of state for the gun violence in Chicago. keep in mind that until Macdonald and Heller, Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city...which of course meant that only criminals had guns. Now there are states where people own and carry guns and gun stores are common and plentiful in their cities...and they don't have the murder rates of Chicago...

soooo, please tell me how this is a gun problem...and not a problem of generations of children raising children on government welfare, while the democrat party undermines the school system, the police and drives out business while,making the city comfortable,for drugs and drug gangs...

Of course, it's gang violence and no gang member is obtaining weapons in a legal manner, that's for sure.

Of course they do. MIchael Moore proved it. They get their guns from banks, and Walmart. Darn ol Walmart. If only we had Walmart-control on guns, all the gangs would simply turn themselves in, and have their guns destroyed. [/sarcasm]

 

[westwall]

hmmm...but...how can this guy have this gun...he is a convicted felon and according to federal, state and local Chicago gun laws...he can't have that gun...

Chicago Police: 3,900 illegal firearms seized so far in 2014 - FOX 32 News Chicago



Can someone explain something to me...the mayor of Chicago and his...police commissioner, blame illegal guns from out of state for the gun violence in Chicago. keep in mind that until Macdonald and Heller, Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city...which of course meant that only criminals had guns. Now there are states where people own and carry guns and gun stores are common and plentiful in their cities...and they don't have the murder rates of Chicago...

soooo, please tell me how this is a gun problem...and not a problem of generations of children raising children on government welfare, while the democrat party undermines the school system, the police and drives out business while,making the city comfortable,for drugs and drug gangs...

It should be ok, since NRA General Counsel Robert Dowlut was convicted of murder in a 1963 crime spree.

The NRA's Murder Mystery | Mother Jones

Amazing that nobody noticed this (well I know why the nutters didn"t notice!)

Among the many things this says, doesn't it say that an convicted murderer can become a solid citizen?

Convicted murderer who's conviction was thrown out due to bad police work, didn't you mean to say?

 

[Andylusion]

Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city

Wrong.

Parts of the city have gun control laws. Parts do not. Walk across the street and buy a gun.

BUT-

Chicago is the third largest city in the US and yet their murder rate is 18.5 per 100K people - or 21st in the nation - so, even thought the 'control' laws are only for parts of the metropolitan area, they are actually quite effective.

In 1994, Chicago had 928 murders. Last year, they had 440.

In point of fact, if one looks at the entire picture, Chicago has made incredible progress BECAUSE of their efforts to get guns out of the hands of the very people the nutters want to see armed.

I've posted the link to these facts several times but because facts don't support the nutters' agenda, its ignored. Well, get used to it because sanity is making progress.

lol. You don't have facts. I've seen that mother jones quality drivel you post. If that's all the facts you've got, then you don't have any facts.

 

[2aguy]

In 1994, Chicago had 928 murders. Last year, they had 440.

And yet...more people have bought and are carrying guns for protection...and the crime rate is going down...around the country...and yes, you had absolute gun control...for law abiding citizens in Chicago...but not for criminals since they didn't obey the registration laws that kept guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens...and if you look at the top 10 cities for violence it isn't the guns that are the problem...they are run by democrats...and their anti-police policies...

from left wing Huffington post...the 10 most violent cities in America for 2013...(as well as 2012)...they are all run by democrats...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/19/most-dangerous-cities-in-america-2013_n_4816774.html

 

[ChrisL]

hmmm...but...how can this guy have this gun...he is a convicted felon and according to federal, state and local Chicago gun laws...he can't have that gun...

Chicago Police: 3,900 illegal firearms seized so far in 2014 - FOX 32 News Chicago



Can someone explain something to me...the mayor of Chicago and his...police commissioner, blame illegal guns from out of state for the gun violence in Chicago. keep in mind that until Macdonald and Heller, Chicago had an almost absolute,gun ban in the city...which of course meant that only criminals had guns. Now there are states where people own and carry guns and gun stores are common and plentiful in their cities...and they don't have the murder rates of Chicago...

soooo, please tell me how this is a gun problem...and not a problem of generations of children raising children on government welfare, while the democrat party undermines the school system, the police and drives out business while,making the city comfortable,for drugs and drug gangs...

Of course, it's gang violence and no gang member is obtaining weapons in a legal manner, that's for sure.

Of course they do. MIchael Moore proved it. They get their guns from banks, and Walmart. Darn ol Walmart. If only we had Walmart-control on guns, all the gangs would simply turn themselves in, and have their guns destroyed. [/sarcasm]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Of course, it's gang violence and no gang member is obtaining weapons in a legal manner, that's for sure.

Of course they do. MIchael Moore proved it. They get their guns from banks, and Walmart. Darn ol Walmart. If only we had Walmart-control on guns, all the gangs would simply turn themselves in, and have their guns destroyed. [/sarcasm]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

Only to ignorant RWs who want to stay ignorant.

Bury your heads in the sand if you want but, truth is, RWs hate Moore because he fights for the little guy and he backs up what he says with facts. Those are the two things RWs hate.

 

[Impenitent]

It should be ok, since NRA General Counsel Robert Dowlut was convicted of murder in a 1963 crime spree.

The NRA's Murder Mystery | Mother Jones

Amazing that nobody noticed this (well I know why the nutters didn"t notice!)

Among the many things this says, doesn't it say that an convicted murderer can become a solid citizen?

Convicted murderer who's conviction was thrown out due to bad police work, didn't you mean to say?

Well, he was convicted, and he did lead police to the murder weapon, which had belonged to the Dowlut family. He also confessed to an armed robbery! And he had a previous criminal record. But like Bill Ayers, he got off on a technicality and has since become a solid citizen.

Now he works for the NRA. Doesn't say it is silly to take guns away from
offenders, after all, the guns didn't do the killing.

 

[ChrisL]

Of course they do. MIchael Moore proved it. They get their guns from banks, and Walmart. Darn ol Walmart. If only we had Walmart-control on guns, all the gangs would simply turn themselves in, and have their guns destroyed. [/sarcasm]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

Only to ignorant RWs who want to stay ignorant.

Bury your heads in the sand if you want but, truth is, RWs hate Moore because he fights for the little guy and he backs up what he says with facts. Those are the two things RWs hate.

What? That gang members purchase their weapons from Walmart? Sorry, but your buddy Mikey Moore is a big ignorant fatty fat-fat. How dare he speak about poor people who don't have enough food, when he is the big fat disgrace that he is?

 

[ChrisL]

How much money do you think Michael Moore pulled in for his movies and other such things as he was denigrating capitalism? Quite ironic, no?

 

[WinterBorn]

Of course they do. MIchael Moore proved it. They get their guns from banks, and Walmart. Darn ol Walmart. If only we had Walmart-control on guns, all the gangs would simply turn themselves in, and have their guns destroyed. [/sarcasm]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

Only to ignorant RWs who want to stay ignorant.

Bury your heads in the sand if you want but, truth is, RWs hate Moore because he fights for the little guy and he backs up what he says with facts. Those are the two things RWs hate.

Oh please! Michael Moore makes factual documentaries like McDonalds make healthy food.

I love the scene where he goes into the bank, opens an account and they hand him a rifle across the counter. Realistic? lmao Accurate?? lol

Facts? The fact is, while there WAS a promotion in which the bank gave guns to customers for opening certain accounts, they never once handed anyone a gun across the counter. They never even actually gave anyone a gun. And each person who did get the certificate for a gun, still had to pass the federal background check.

 

[ChrisL]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

Only to ignorant RWs who want to stay ignorant.

Bury your heads in the sand if you want but, truth is, RWs hate Moore because he fights for the little guy and he backs up what he says with facts. Those are the two things RWs hate.

Oh please! Michael Moore makes factual documentaries like McDonalds make healthy food.

I love the scene where he goes into the bank, opens an account and they hand him a rifle across the counter. Realistic? lmao Accurate?? lol

Facts? The fact is, while there WAS a promotion in which the bank gave guns to customers for opening certain accounts, they never once handed anyone a gun across the counter. They never even actually gave anyone a gun. And each person who did get the certificate for a gun, still had to pass the federal background check.

God, I can't stand that guy. I think he is a big fat hypocritical pig.

 

[2aguy]

The best lie that moore told...when he spliced several of Charleton Heston's speeches together in the movie...he hides the fact that he is splicing the speeches, from different states, by using a photo montage as Heston is speaking...in the beginning of the speech he is wearing one suit and tie...moore shows a montage...and when the film comes back to Heston's "speech"...he is in a completely different suit and tie...he edited the speech to make Heston look bad...moore is an *******...

 

[Andylusion]

Of course they do. MIchael Moore proved it. They get their guns from banks, and Walmart. Darn ol Walmart. If only we had Walmart-control on guns, all the gangs would simply turn themselves in, and have their guns destroyed. [/sarcasm]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

Only to ignorant RWs who want to stay ignorant.

Bury your heads in the sand if you want but, truth is, RWs hate Moore because he fights for the little guy and he backs up what he says with facts. Those are the two things RWs hate.

Oh good night. You people still exist? Every single Michael Moron film, has been proven full of lies over and over and over again.

Michael moron, called that bank up, that he got the gun from, and told them that he was doing a documentary on 'unique businesses' in America. He told them, that they had to have the gun at the bank, when they came to film.

The bank only had the gun there, because Moron lied to them, and convinced them to do it.

During the interview with the teller at the bank, Moron asked the teller, how many guns they had on site, and the teller said they had thousands of gun..... at their off site storage vault. Michael Moron specifically edited out the teller saying the guns were off-site. Not at the bank.

This is one of hundreds of examples. In fact, his very first film, Roger and Me, the entire premise of the film was a complete lie!

The premise was that Moron wanted to talk with Roger Smith, then CEO of GM, and Roger Smith avoids him. The whole movie is about him trying to get to chat with Roger Smith, and at the end he goes to an open meeting, where Moron steps up to the microphone and tries to talk with Roger Smith.

In the movie, he asks a tough question to Roger, and then the sound cuts out like they turned off is microphone, and then he turns and disappointed, walks away.

Problem is, this was a total and complete lie. In reality, Moron carried on a conversation with Roger, for nearly 20 minutes. Of course all of this happened years before the movie was filmed. In other words, THE ENTIRE FILM was a LIE.

Michael Moron is a total liar. This is guy that was kicked out of Mother Jones, for LYING. If you believe ANYTHING that Moron has to say, you are the most ignorant and foolish person on this forum, short of any other idiot who is stupid enough to believe Moron too.

Honestly, I really thought you were more intelligent than this. I keep thinking my standards are low for leftists, and then they still manage to stumble under them.

 

[ChrisL]

Thankfully that fat ass is no longer relevant.

Only to ignorant RWs who want to stay ignorant.

Bury your heads in the sand if you want but, truth is, RWs hate Moore because he fights for the little guy and he backs up what he says with facts. Those are the two things RWs hate.

Oh good night. You people still exist? Every single Michael Moron film, has been proven full of lies over and over and over again.

Michael moron, called that bank up, that he got the gun from, and told them that he was doing a documentary on 'unique businesses' in America. He told them, that they had to have the gun at the bank, when they came to film.

The bank only had the gun there, because Moron lied to them, and convinced them to do it.

During the interview with the teller at the bank, Moron asked the teller, how many guns they had on site, and the teller said they had thousands of gun..... at their off site storage vault. Michael Moron specifically edited out the teller saying the guns were off-site. Not at the bank.

This is one of hundreds of examples. In fact, his very first film, Roger and Me, the entire premise of the film was a complete lie!

The premise was that Moron wanted to talk with Roger Smith, then CEO of GM, and Roger Smith avoids him. The whole movie is about him trying to get to chat with Roger Smith, and at the end he goes to an open meeting, where Moron steps up to the microphone and tries to talk with Roger Smith.

In the movie, he asks a tough question to Roger, and then the sound cuts out like they turned off is microphone, and then he turns and disappointed, walks away.

Problem is, this was a total and complete lie. In reality, Moron carried on a conversation with Roger, for nearly 20 minutes. Of course all of this happened years before the movie was filmed. In other words, THE ENTIRE FILM was a LIE.

Michael Moron is a total liar. This is guy that was kicked out of Mother Jones, for LYING. If you believe ANYTHING that Moron has to say, you are the most ignorant and foolish person on this forum, short of any other idiot who is stupid enough to believe Moron too.

Honestly, I really thought you were more intelligent than this. I keep thinking my standards are low for leftists, and then they still manage to stumble under them.

He's a meat head, literally.