Florida Man Invokes ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law After Shooting Fellow Pizza Customer

[lovemymutts]

Moral of the story is...don't raise you fist and threaten violence and you won't get shot.

Pretty simple I think.

WTF, Was He afraid of being beaten to death with a soggy pepperoni pizza.UNBELIEVABLE.

 

[Missourian]

Moral of the story is...don't raise you fist and threaten violence and you won't get shot.

Pretty simple I think.

WTF, Was He afraid of being beaten to death with a soggy pepperoni pizza.UNBELIEVABLE.

A 142 pound woman is on trial for killing an aspiring rapper with one punch to the face during a party game in which the victim agreed to be hit as part of a $5 bet.


John "Fatboy" Powell, 25, was attending and performing at a party with his band Krazy Killaz last September when he accepted a $5 party bet to be punched in the face by a woman.


A few minutes after Tiffany Startz, 22, had delivered a punch to his face, Powell passed out. He was taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., where he died.



Woman on Trial For Killing Rapper With One Punch - ABC News

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[ogibillm]

Sorry "real man", I'm not defending the savage that threatened to beat a man over what he said.

Just be honest. That's all I ask.

I'm being honest with you.

Trying to be clever and slick is stupid and fools no one...debate the facts or admit you cannot.

It is senseless attempting to debate a subject with someone who thinks it is OK to shoot someone who MIGHT punch him. You just get deeper and deeper into your stupid argument. Simple common sense tells you how wrong your thinking is, common sense is obviously something that you lack. If you think a person MIGHT hit you, either stand up to them with equal force or walk away.

LAS VEGAS — A tourist from Florida was jailed on a murder charge Wednesday in the death of a Utah man who died after a one-punch fight between two tourists inside a Las Vegas Strip casino.

Benjamin G. Hawkins, 37, of Gainesville, Fla., was arrested shortly after the 12:45 a.m. Wednesday slaying.

It followed an exchange of words in a restroom at O'Sheas Las Vegas Casino, police homicide Lt. Lewis Roberts said.
It wasn't clear which man was the aggressor before the Utah man was felled by a single punch to the face.


Man killed by one punch in Vegas casino brawl - CBS News
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And walking away is not surrender, sometimes an asshole just is not worth your bother.

I agree with this....if it is possible.

Didn't sound like it was if the aggressor is about to hit you.

yep. you can die from a single punch.

of course, if you're a person with a thin skull that can die from a single punch maybe you shouldn't be picking fights with people in pizza lines.

that or you should wear a helmet. or both.

 

[lovemymutts]

Moral of the story is...don't raise you fist and threaten violence and you won't get shot.

Pretty simple I think.

WTF, Was He afraid of being beaten to death with a soggy pepperoni pizza.UNBELIEVABLE.

A 142 pound woman is on trial for killing an aspiring rapper with one punch to the face during a party game in which the victim agreed to be hit as part of a $5 bet.


John "Fatboy" Powell, 25, was attending and performing at a party with his band Krazy Killaz last September when he accepted a $5 party bet to be punched in the face by a woman.


A few minutes after Tiffany Startz, 22, had delivered a punch to his face, Powell passed out. He was taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., where he died.



Woman on Trial For Killing Rapper With One Punch - ABC News

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lmfao ,The average pizza weighs 1 lb 12 ozs, now if it weighed 142 lb there MIGHT be a legitimate agrument.

 

[Missourian]

Who is debating? I'm just here to make sure that these pussies know that they are seen as pussies.

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nort...e-punch-assault-72703-31681420/#ixzz2FdGkaLNk

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

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[Missourian]

It is senseless attempting to debate a subject with someone who thinks it is OK to shoot someone who MIGHT punch him. You just get deeper and deeper into your stupid argument. Simple common sense tells you how wrong your thinking is, common sense is obviously something that you lack. If you think a person MIGHT hit you, either stand up to them with equal force or walk away.

LAS VEGAS — A tourist from Florida was jailed on a murder charge Wednesday in the death of a Utah man who died after a one-punch fight between two tourists inside a Las Vegas Strip casino.

Benjamin G. Hawkins, 37, of Gainesville, Fla., was arrested shortly after the 12:45 a.m. Wednesday slaying.

It followed an exchange of words in a restroom at O'Sheas Las Vegas Casino, police homicide Lt. Lewis Roberts said.
It wasn't clear which man was the aggressor before the Utah man was felled by a single punch to the face.


Man killed by one punch in Vegas casino brawl - CBS News
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And walking away is not surrender, sometimes an asshole just is not worth your bother.

I agree with this....if it is possible.

Didn't sound like it was if the aggressor is about to hit you.

yep. you can die from a single punch.

of course, if you're a person with a thin skull that can die from a single punch maybe you shouldn't be picking fights with people in pizza lines.

that or you should wear a helmet. or both.

One has nothing to do with the other.

No one has the right to attack me, or anyone else.

Why do you condone this behavior.

If we both agree that violence is unacceptable and we both agree that one punch can kill, then we agree that the requirements for being in fear for ones life and/or grave bodily harm have been met.

So what are you still arguing over?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Who is debating? I'm just here to make sure that these pussies know that they are seen as pussies.

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More Consett mum wants justice for son killed in one-punch assault - Chronicle News - News - ChronicleLive

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

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You are still a pussy. If you carry a gun into a pizzeria and will use it to shoot a person who is unarmed....you are a pussy.

If that is you grilling in the pic.....Man Up! You got size.

 

[Meathead]

Who is debating? I'm just here to make sure that these pussies know that they are seen as pussies.

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More Consett mum wants justice for son killed in one-punch assault - Chronicle News - News - ChronicleLive

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

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You are still a pussy. If you carry a gun into a pizzeria and will use it to shoot a person who is unarmed....you are a pussy.

If that is you grilling in the pic.....Man Up! You got size.

If you stop and think, why isn't the unarmed man a pussy? Can you be as belligerent, threatening and aggressive as you like and still hide behind the fact that you don't have a weapon?

 

[hazlnut]

Ha!

Florida.... figures.

 

[LoneLaugher]

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More Consett mum wants justice for son killed in one-punch assault - Chronicle News - News - ChronicleLive

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

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You are still a pussy. If you carry a gun into a pizzeria and will use it to shoot a person who is unarmed....you are a pussy.

If that is you grilling in the pic.....Man Up! You got size.

If you stop and think, why isn't the unarmed man a pussy? Can you be as belligerent, threatening and aggressive as you like and still hide behind the fact that you don't have a weapon?

He probably is. I cede your point. Most blowhards are pussies. But he is a manageable pussy.....a person that a non-pussy can handle without lead.

 

[Politico]

Moral of the story is...don't raise you fist and threaten violence and you won't get shot.

Yeah except the shooter started it.

 

[bripat9643]

Do you really think you have the right to shoot someone who might punch you.

Yes.

 

[bripat9643]

I would reply to this, but you might not like what I have to say and shoot me. Must be getting cold up on Brokeback Mountain, you should put some jeans on under those chaps.

Sorry "real man", I'm not defending the savage that threatened to beat a man over what he said.

Just be honest. That's all I ask.

I'm being honest with you.

Trying to be clever and slick is stupid and fools no one...debate the facts or admit you cannot.

It is senseless attempting to debate a subject with someone who thinks it is OK to shoot someone who MIGHT punch him. You just get deeper and deeper into your stupid argument. Simple common sense tells you how wrong your thinking is, common sense is obviously something that you lack. If you think a person MIGHT hit you, either stand up to them with equal force or walk away. And walking away is not surrender, sometimes an asshole just is not worth your bother.

What sounds clever and slick to you is just a normal joke to the rest of us.

What if you're a 120 lb woman and some 250 lb psycho is threatening to assault you?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Do you really think you have the right to shoot someone who might punch you.

Yes.

Pussy!

 

[Missourian]

Who is debating? I'm just here to make sure that these pussies know that they are seen as pussies.

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More Consett mum wants justice for son killed in one-punch assault - Chronicle News - News - ChronicleLive

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

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If that is you grilling in the pic.....Man Up! You got size.

This is where we get off the tracks.

I'm not saying that I personally would shoot someone.

I'm saying the right exists.

And I'm saying the right exist equally...regardless of size, race, sex or age...just the way the law requires.

You guys post like you know exactly what is going to happen, but you don't.

Once a situation is escalated to any kind of physical violence, anything can happen.

A person with so little self control that he will assault me with his fists will assault me with anything.

I fought when I was younger, I beat guys bigger than me and I was beat by guys smaller than me...but fighting had rules back then...and those rules aren't adhered to today.

Once a man was down, the fight was over...kick a man when he's down you'd be damn near ostracized and labeled cowardly.

Those conventions no longer exist, and to pretend they do is naivete bordering on foolhardiness.

Any man who would assault you over the trivial is capable of killing you over the trivial.

 

[LoneLaugher]

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More Consett mum wants justice for son killed in one-punch assault - Chronicle News - News - ChronicleLive

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

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If that is you grilling in the pic.....Man Up! You got size.

This is wear we get off the tracks.

I'm not saying that I personally would shoot someone.

I'm saying the right exists.

And I'm saying the right exist equally...regardless of size, race, sex or age...just the way the law requires.

You guys post like you know exactly what is going to happen, but you don't.

Once a situation is escalated to any kind of physical violence, anything can happen.

If a person has so little self control that will assault me with his fists will assault me with anything.

I fought when I was younger, I beat guys bigger than me and I was beat by guys smaller than me...but fighting had rules back then...and those rules aren't adhered to today.

Once a man was down, the fight was over...kick a man when he's down you'd be damn near ostracized and labeled cowardly.

Those conventions no longer exist, and to pretend they do is naivete bordering on foolhardiness.

Any man who would assault you over the trivial is capable of killing you over the trivial.

Knowing as I do.....the intractable nature of the average nutter....I will consider that to be a reasoned response. However misguided......it is at least your honest assessment. I'll leave it there in the knowledge that knowledge has been gained.

 

[Missourian]

Moral of the story is...don't raise you fist and threaten violence and you won't get shot.

Yeah except the shooter started it.

I didn't read it that way, but I could be mistaken.

My understanding was that the shooter asked the impatient customer to stop using obscenities and that the impatient customer took umbrage and got physical.

 

[Pogo]

This is wear we get off the tracks.

I'm not saying that I personally would shoot someone.

I'm saying the right exists.

Actually you did say that, back here. Right after you described such an act as "moral". After that you kept doubling down, and now you want to pretend you were never there.

Unless you're trying now to parse yourself out of it by riffing on the word "right".

In either case you've been pushing the tacit approval of shooting the unarmed, which would have made you an excellent choice for Adam Lanza's defense attorney.
Too bad your prospective client is dead. But hey, you've still got this guy. Rotsa ruck with that one too.

 

[Missourian]

This is wear we get off the tracks.

I'm not saying that I personally would shoot someone.

I'm saying the right exists.

Actually you did say that, back here. Right after you described such an act as "moral". After that you kept doubling down, and now you want to pretend you were never there.

Unless you're trying now to parse yourself out of it by riffing on the word "right".

Allow me to produce my quote you linked to:

Yes.

You threaten me with violence, I have the right to protect myself.

So your point is that I said exactly what I said.

 

[Ravi]

A GRIEVING mum whose son died 10 months after a brutal one-punch assault has demanded justice after it emerged his attacker will face no further charges.


Kristian Thompson was left with appalling brain injuries and staged a desperate fight for life after thug Mark Berry landed a single blow because he didn’t have a cigarette.


As the 19-year-old recovered in a hospital, Berry, from Leadgate, near Consett, was sentenced to 28 months in prison after he pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm at Durham Crown Court.

Read More Consett mum wants justice for son killed in one-punch assault - Chronicle News - News - ChronicleLive

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I'm sure that will be of great consolation to your widow and fatherless children as the aggressor receives a year or two year jail sentence in your murder that your tombstone reads "Yes, I'm dead and my wife and children will struggle both emotionally and financially, but by God, I'm pretty sure nobody called me a pussy on the internet."

​

If that is you grilling in the pic.....Man Up! You got size.

This is where we get off the tracks.

I'm not saying that I personally would shoot someone.

I'm saying the right exists.

And I'm saying the right exist equally...regardless of size, race, sex or age...just the way the law requires.

You guys post like you know exactly what is going to happen, but you don't.

Once a situation is escalated to any kind of physical violence, anything can happen.

A person with so little self control that he will assault me with his fists will assault me with anything.

I fought when I was younger, I beat guys bigger than me and I was beat by guys smaller than me...but fighting had rules back then...and those rules aren't adhered to today.

Once a man was down, the fight was over...kick a man when he's down you'd be damn near ostracized and labeled cowardly.

Those conventions no longer exist, and to pretend they do is naivete bordering on foolhardiness.

Any man who would assault you over the trivial is capable of killing you over the trivial.

The right exists? I've never seen a right to shoot someone that raised his voice and/or his hand. This is vigilante justice. For all we know the guy was brushing his hair out of his eyes.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This guy could have been killed simply because the guy with a gun couldn't seem to control his temper.