Florida Passes “Anti-Science” Law

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
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There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law. Conservatives are quickly triggered into quivering lip syndrome whenever their religion is made to look silly by facts. So they use government power to force people to ignore facts. Problem solved. This is exactly why the founders knew the government and the church HAD to be separated.
Well the founders opened session with prayer, which is still done I believe, sent bibles to the troops, etc.

John Adams said:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes throAnd let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.{2}ugh a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."{1}

And a guy named George Washington upon leaving office:
"And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."{2}

And:
John Jay was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers and became America’s first Supreme Court Justice. He also served as the president of the American Bible Society. He understood the relationship between government and Christian values. He said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”{7}

So like many (most leftists?) you have no clue about our history. Or science for that matter. Your politico-religious world views are all you know or care about.


Your level of projection is galactic. And you use one of the go-to fake tactics of conservatives. 'Find a few examples of something, ignore the examples that don't fit your narrative, and then decalse THERE I've vanquished all who opposed me just because I say so'.

Riiiiight.
 
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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.





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So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?
No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.


Translation~ you want our money for junk science , because you "believe".


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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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View attachment 136518

Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
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There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law. Conservatives are quickly triggered into quivering lip syndrome whenever their religion is made to look silly by facts. So they use government power to force people to ignore facts. Problem solved. This is exactly why the founders knew the government and the church HAD to be separated.
Well the founders opened session with prayer, which is still done I believe, sent bibles to the troops, etc.

John Adams said:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes throAnd let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.{2}ugh a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."{1}

And a guy named George Washington upon leaving office:
"And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."{2}

And:
John Jay was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers and became America’s first Supreme Court Justice. He also served as the president of the American Bible Society. He understood the relationship between government and Christian values. He said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”{7}

So like many (most leftists?) you have no clue about our history. Or science for that matter. Your politico-religious world views are all you know or care about.


Your level of projection is galactic. And you use one of the go-to fake tactics of conservatives. 'Find a few examples of something, ignore the examples that don't fit your narrative, and then decalse THERE I've vanquished all who opposed me just because I say so'.

Riiiiight.

You sound like Micheal Mann, a guy who can't stop embarrassing himself.


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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 136518

Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
.

There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law. Conservatives are quickly triggered into quivering lip syndrome whenever their religion is made to look silly by facts. So they use government power to force people to ignore facts. Problem solved. This is exactly why the founders knew the government and the church HAD to be separated.
Well the founders opened session with prayer, which is still done I believe, sent bibles to the troops, etc.

John Adams said:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes throAnd let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.{2}ugh a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."{1}

And a guy named George Washington upon leaving office:
"And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."{2}

And:
John Jay was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers and became America’s first Supreme Court Justice. He also served as the president of the American Bible Society. He understood the relationship between government and Christian values. He said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”{7}

So like many (most leftists?) you have no clue about our history. Or science for that matter. Your politico-religious world views are all you know or care about.


Your level of projection is galactic. And you use one of the go-to fake tactics of conservatives. 'Find a few examples of something, ignore the examples that don't fit your narrative, and then decalse THERE I've vanquished all who opposed me just because I say so'.

Riiiiight.
a few examples? The founders own words contradict your beliefs. Why would they say such things if you were right? and there are a whole bunch more. You are ignorant of facts.
 
Facts cannot be challenged.

The sky is blue and water boils at 100c. Period.


You don't know much about water do.you we are still learning.





The many mysteries of water



By David Robson and Michael Marshall

No liquid behaves quite as oddly as water. It exhibits a raft of unusual behaviours, many of which are essential for life as we know it. We list water’s peculiarities below.

In The strangest liquid, we look at how a controversial new theory could finally explain water’s weird behaviour. Here we explain how the theory could explain 10 of water’s behaviours – and then take a quick look at its many other peculiarities.

Read more: Martin Chaplin of London South Bank University has posted a much moredetailed and technical discussion of these anomalies.

Water’s mysteries
Picturing water as a liquid that can form two types of structure, one tetrahedral and the other disordered, could explain many of its unusual properties. Here are 10 of them.



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Water is most dense at 4 °C

EXPLANATION: Heating reduces the number of ordered, tetrahedral structures in favour of a more disordered arrangement in which molecules are more densely packed. However, the heat also agitates the molecules in the disordered regions, causing them to move further apart. Above 4 °C, this effect takes precedence, making the water less dense

Water has an exceptionally high specific heat capacity: it takes a lot of heat energy to raise water’s temperature by a given amount

EXPLANATION: Much of the extra heat energy is used to convert more molecules from the tetrahedral structures to the disordered structures, rather than into increasing the kinetic energy of the molecules, and hence the temperature.

Specific heat capacity is at a minimum at 35 °C but increases as the temperature falls or rises, whereas the heat capacity of most other liquids rises continuously with temperature.

EXPLANATION: Between 0 and 35 °C, increasing the temperature steadily removes regions of ordered, tetrahedral structure, reducing water’s ability to absorb heat. Above 35 °C, so few of the tetrahedral regions are left that water behaves like a regular liquid.

Water’s compressibility drops with increasing temperature until it reaches a minimum at 46 °C, whereas in most liquids, the compressibility rises continuously with temperature

EXPLANATION: As the temperature rises, the dense, disordered regions become more prevalent, and these are more difficult to compress. However, rising temperature also forces molecules within these regions further apart and hence makes them more compressible. This effect takes precedence beyond 46 °C.

Water is particularly difficult to compress

EXPLANATION: The strong attraction between water molecules keeps them more closely packed than the molecules of many other liquids.

This effect is particularly marked when the higher-density disordered structure dominates

The speed of sound in water increases with temperature up to 74 °C, after which it starts to fall again

EXPLANATION: This is the result of the interplay between water’s unusual density and compressibility profiles, which directly stem from the changing balance between the two types of structure.

Water molecules diffuse more easily, not less easily, at higher pressures

EXPLANATION: High pressure converts more molecules to the disordered structure, in which they are more mobile.

Unlike many liquids, water becomes less viscous, not more viscous, at higher pressures

EXPLANATION: Molecules are freer to move when in the disordered structures, which are favoured at higher pressures, than when they are in the ordered, tetrahedral structure.

Increasing the pressure increases the amount by which water expands on heating

EXPLANATION: Rising temperature causes disordered regions to expand more rapidly than ordered, tetrahedral ones, and high pressure favours fluctuations to the disordered regions.

Properties such as viscosity, boiling point and melting point are significantly different in “heavy” water – made from the heavier hydrogen isotopes deuterium and tritium – compared with their equivalents in normal water.

EXPLANATION: The heavier isotopes change the quantum mechanical properties of water molecules, altering the balance of the disordered and tetrahedral regions.

Phase anomalies
Water has an unusually high melting/freezing point.

Water has an unusually high boiling point.

Water has an unusually high critical point. This is the temperature at which the distinct liquid and gas states cease to exist. Instead, there is only a supercritical fluid, which can diffuse through solids just like a gas but also dissolve things just like a liquid. Water’s critical point is at a temperature of 374 °C and a pressure of 217 atmospheres: above this temperature, it is a supercritical fluid.

Solid water exists in a wider variety of stable (and metastable) crystal and amorphous structures than other materials.

The thermal conductivity of ice falls with increasing pressure.

The structure of liquid water changes at high pressure.

Supercooled water – that is, water that has been cooled below its freezing point without it becoming a solid – behaves strangely. It has two phases and a second critical point at about -91°C.

Liquid water is easy to supercool, but difficult to turn into a glass-like solid.

Liquid water exists at very low temperatures and freezes on heating.

Liquid water may be easily superheated: that is, heated to a temperature above its boiling point without it boiling.

Hot water may freeze faster than cold water– the Mpemba effect.

Warm water vibrates longer than cold water.

Density anomalies
The density of ice increases on heating (up to a temperature of -203 °C). Normally, solids expand and become less dense when heated.

Water shrinks on melting, when most substances expand.

Pressure reduces ice’s melting point, when it normally increases it: pressure normally encourages a substance to become a solid.

Liquid water has a high density that increases on heating (up to 3.984 °C). Heating a liquid normally causes it to expand, reducing its density.

The surface of water is denser than the bulk. This may be because the density of the surface water does not vary with temperature as the density of the bulk does.

Pressure reduces the temperature of maximum density.

There is a minimum in the density of supercooled water.

Water has a low thermal expansivity: for a given increase in temperature, it does not expand as much as it might be expected to.

Water’s thermal expansivity decreases at low temperatures. Below 4 °C, it becomes negative – so if you heat water that is below this temperature, it will shrink.

The number of nearest neighbours that each water molecule has increases on melting. Normally, because the molecules of a liquid are moving around so much more, any one molecule is likely to have fewer nearest neighbours than if it were part of a solid.

The number of nearest neighbours increases with temperature. This happens because the increasing temperatures break down the hydrogen bond network holding the molecules in place, allowing them to move closer to each other.

There is a maximum in the compressibility-temperature relationship, probably near the temperature at which the density is lowest.

The speed of sound may show a minimum.

High-frequency sounds travel as “fast sound”, because for these frequencies water behaves as if it is a glassy solid rather than a liquid. Water also shows a discontinuity at higher pressure, probably as a result of the water molecules rearranging themselves.

Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spin-lattice relaxation time is very small at low temperatures. In other words, if the nuclei of the atoms making up water are excited to a higher energy level – for instance by a magnetic field – they return to their previous, lower energy level unusually fast.

The NMR shift increases to a maximum at low (supercool) temperatures.

The refractive index of water – that is, how much light is slowed down, and thus deflected, when it enters water – has a maximum value at just below 0 °C.

The change in volume as liquid water changes to gas is unusually large.

You go and discover the mysteries of water.
Boil water at sea level 1,000 times and report your findings, dope.


Embarrassed much in the year 2017, that water is still a mystery?


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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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View attachment 136518

Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
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There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law. Conservatives are quickly triggered into quivering lip syndrome whenever their religion is made to look silly by facts. So they use government power to force people to ignore facts. Problem solved. This is exactly why the founders knew the government and the church HAD to be separated.
Well the founders opened session with prayer, which is still done I believe, sent bibles to the troops, etc.

John Adams said:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes throAnd let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.{2}ugh a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."{1}

And a guy named George Washington upon leaving office:
"And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."{2}

And:
John Jay was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers and became America’s first Supreme Court Justice. He also served as the president of the American Bible Society. He understood the relationship between government and Christian values. He said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”{7}

So like many (most leftists?) you have no clue about our history. Or science for that matter. Your politico-religious world views are all you know or care about.


Your level of projection is galactic. And you use one of the go-to fake tactics of conservatives. 'Find a few examples of something, ignore the examples that don't fit your narrative, and then decalse THERE I've vanquished all who opposed me just because I say so'.

Riiiiight.
a few examples? The founders own words contradict your beliefs. Why would they say such things if you were right? and there are a whole bunch more. You are ignorant of facts.

I believe he's the one that claimed the Soviet Union broke the non agression pact with the Nazis. I get the loons messed up. But one of them did
 
Science is doctocorrect to conservatives if it's a doctor or engineer building the bridge they travel over, but 100% wrong on anything that conflicts with their internal belief system.

And this is the great thing about science, it reveals reality which is not subject to anyone's internal interpretations except at the very cutting knife edge of exploration like the Big Bang and String Theory.

Physics for someone that adheres to this hardcore fundamentalist view of the world (and yes that excludes many Christians who actually accept scientific fact as fact and who just want to be left alone to practice their religion) is an opinion. As is chemistry, biology, paleontology, zoology, microbiology...

People that cling to their religion AND reject anything outside their religion are the problem. Normal people, regardless of their religion, trust a doctor knows something more than the patient when he prescribes something. Abnormal people are suspicious even of doctors and PH.D's which are doctors in a field other than medicine. And it is these arrogantly ignorant people that are the most determined to force their religion on the rest of society. Why? Because their faith is shaky. They NEED society to reflect back to them that THEY are right and ok and when society doesn't do that they refuse to change their beliefs and instead force their beliefs on that society whenever they gain power.



Science is 100% correct to conservatives if it's a doctor



Get the fuck out of here , doctors were not correct when it came to Tim teabow or my daughter in the womb., If it was up to the quacks we would of aborted them.


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"I believe a magic being flies through the air and created everything and any evidence that proves that wrong has to be wrong, obviously"

"I have proof that the sun is 93 million miles from Earth, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second, the universe is 13.72 billion years old, the Earth is round, and men evolved from apes when one of our chromosomes fused and we went from having 48 chromosomes which apes have, to having 46 chromosomes which humans have."

"Well I don't believe any of that but let's debate it ok?"

"These things are proven already, the rigorous debate took place during the last 100 years between PH.D's in each field of study."

"Oh they don't know anything, I do because I say I do. And in America my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

"No, you are free to be ignorant, but you aren't free to force that ignorance to be taught to children. The Flat Earth Society is meeting this week near you, why don't you go and 'debate them' about their beliefs. Certainly you would say their beliefs are just as valid as yours yes? Good, have fun!"

Is the sun really 93 million miles from Earth TODAY versus 4 billion years ago?
Based on your above I assume you say it is because it is proven science.
But have you considered this?
There is another effect which is also small, but somewhat bigger than the tidal effect. The Sun is powered by nuclear fusion, which means the Sun is continuously transforming a small part of its mass into energy. As the mass of the Sun goes down, our orbit gets proportionally bigger. However, over the entire main sequence lifetime of the Sun (about 10 billion years), the Sun will only lose about 0.1% of its mass, which means that the Earth should move out by just ~150,000 km (small compared to the total Earth-Sun distance of ~150,000,000 km). If we assume that the Sun's rate of nuclear fusion today is the same as the average rate over those 10 billion years (a bold assumption, but it should give us a rough idea of the answer), then we're moving away from the Sun at the rate of ~1.5 cm (less than an inch) per year. I probably don't even need to mention that this is so small that we don't have to worry about freezing.
Is the distance from the Earth to the Sun changing? (Advanced) - Curious About Astronomy? Ask an Astronomer
So assuming the Earth is 4 billion years old and the Sun is loosing it's mass due to fusion, then 4 billion inches equals 63,131 miles farther away then
92,955,807 miles it is today. That means the Sun was 92,892,676 miles 4 billion years ago then it is today.
The distance from Earth to the sun is called an astronomical unit, or AU, which is used to measure distances throughout the solar system. The AU has been defined as 149,597,870,700 meters (92,955,807 miles). Astronomers use the AU for measuring distances throughout the solar system.Sep 17, 2012
How Far is Earth from the Sun?

So how sure are you about your "constants" in your above comments???
 
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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 136518

Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
.

There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law. Conservatives are quickly triggered into quivering lip syndrome whenever their religion is made to look silly by facts. So they use government power to force people to ignore facts. Problem solved. This is exactly why the founders knew the government and the church HAD to be separated.
Well the founders opened session with prayer, which is still done I believe, sent bibles to the troops, etc.

John Adams said:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes throAnd let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.{2}ugh a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."{1}

And a guy named George Washington upon leaving office:
"And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."{2}

And:
John Jay was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers and became America’s first Supreme Court Justice. He also served as the president of the American Bible Society. He understood the relationship between government and Christian values. He said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”{7}

So like many (most leftists?) you have no clue about our history. Or science for that matter. Your politico-religious world views are all you know or care about.


Your level of projection is galactic. And you use one of the go-to fake tactics of conservatives. 'Find a few examples of something, ignore the examples that don't fit your narrative, and then decalse THERE I've vanquished all who opposed me just because I say so'.

Riiiiight.
a few examples? The founders own words contradict your beliefs. Why would they say such things if you were right? and there are a whole bunch more. You are ignorant of facts.

I believe he's the one that claimed the Soviet Union broke the non agression pact with the Nazis. I get the loons messed up. But one of them did
Public ed at its' finest.
 
There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law. Conservatives are quickly triggered into quivering lip syndrome whenever their religion is made to look silly by facts. So they use government power to force people to ignore facts. Problem solved. This is exactly why the founders knew the government and the church HAD to be separated.
Well the founders opened session with prayer, which is still done I believe, sent bibles to the troops, etc.

John Adams said:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes throAnd let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.{2}ugh a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."{1}

And a guy named George Washington upon leaving office:
"And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."{2}

And:
John Jay was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers and became America’s first Supreme Court Justice. He also served as the president of the American Bible Society. He understood the relationship between government and Christian values. He said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”{7}

So like many (most leftists?) you have no clue about our history. Or science for that matter. Your politico-religious world views are all you know or care about.


Your level of projection is galactic. And you use one of the go-to fake tactics of conservatives. 'Find a few examples of something, ignore the examples that don't fit your narrative, and then decalse THERE I've vanquished all who opposed me just because I say so'.

Riiiiight.
a few examples? The founders own words contradict your beliefs. Why would they say such things if you were right? and there are a whole bunch more. You are ignorant of facts.

I believe he's the one that claimed the Soviet Union broke the non agression pact with the Nazis. I get the loons messed up. But one of them did
Public ed at its' finest.


Animal House: was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!!!?!!

I love that movie
 
Don't you know? It's not proven that human organs can be transplanted to another. Or that parts of the electromagnetic spectrum can be modulated so as to carry information that can be received and decoded remotely.

This is all very much theory.

Cell phones will fail because it's not proven science.

No, there are proof of those things. Climate change has no evidence to support it, that's why it's a theory.
 
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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.





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So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?
No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.
You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.
Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.

Don't you know? It's not proven that human organs can be transplanted to another. Or that parts of the electromagnetic spectrum can be modulated so as to carry information that can be received and decoded remotely.

This is all very much theory.

Cell phones will fail because it's not proven science.

It's not theory because we do it every day, moron. When has the global warming cult ever been right about anything? When have the ever predicted the temperature 10 years ahead of time?
 
Science is doctocorrect to conservatives if it's a doctor or engineer building the bridge they travel over, but 100% wrong on anything that conflicts with their internal belief system.

And this is the great thing about science, it reveals reality which is not subject to anyone's internal interpretations except at the very cutting knife edge of exploration like the Big Bang and String Theory.

Physics for someone that adheres to this hardcore fundamentalist view of the world (and yes that excludes many Christians who actually accept scientific fact as fact and who just want to be left alone to practice their religion) is an opinion. As is chemistry, biology, paleontology, zoology, microbiology...

People that cling to their religion AND reject anything outside their religion are the problem. Normal people, regardless of their religion, trust a doctor knows something more than the patient when he prescribes something. Abnormal people are suspicious even of doctors and PH.D's which are doctors in a field other than medicine. And it is these arrogantly ignorant people that are the most determined to force their religion on the rest of society. Why? Because their faith is shaky. They NEED society to reflect back to them that THEY are right and ok and when society doesn't do that they refuse to change their beliefs and instead force their beliefs on that society whenever they gain power.



Science is 100% correct to conservatives if it's a doctor



Get the fuck out of here , doctors were not correct when it came to Tim teabow or my daughter in the womb., If it was up to the quacks we would of aborted them.


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Doctors are wrong about many things. I recall how they claimed for decades that steroids didn't work. Now they all admit it. They used to say coffee was bad for you. Now they say it's good for you. Yada, yada, yada.
 
"I believe a magic being flies through the air and created everything and any evidence that proves that wrong has to be wrong, obviously"

"I have proof that the sun is 93 million miles from Earth, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second, the universe is 13.72 billion years old, the Earth is round, and men evolved from apes when one of our chromosomes fused and we went from having 48 chromosomes which apes have, to having 46 chromosomes which humans have."

"Well I don't believe any of that but let's debate it ok?"

"These things are proven already, the rigorous debate took place during the last 100 years between PH.D's in each field of study."

"Oh they don't know anything, I do because I say I do. And in America my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

"No, you are free to be ignorant, but you aren't free to force that ignorance to be taught to children. The Flat Earth Society is meeting this week near you, why don't you go and 'debate them' about their beliefs. Certainly you would say their beliefs are just as valid as yours yes? Good, have fun!"

Is the sun really 93 million miles from Earth TODAY versus 4 billion years ago?
Based on your above I assume you say it is because it is proven science.
But have you considered this?
There is another effect which is also small, but somewhat bigger than the tidal effect. The Sun is powered by nuclear fusion, which means the Sun is continuously transforming a small part of its mass into energy. As the mass of the Sun goes down, our orbit gets proportionally bigger. However, over the entire main sequence lifetime of the Sun (about 10 billion years), the Sun will only lose about 0.1% of its mass, which means that the Earth should move out by just ~150,000 km (small compared to the total Earth-Sun distance of ~150,000,000 km). If we assume that the Sun's rate of nuclear fusion today is the same as the average rate over those 10 billion years (a bold assumption, but it should give us a rough idea of the answer), then we're moving away from the Sun at the rate of ~1.5 cm (less than an inch) per year. I probably don't even need to mention that this is so small that we don't have to worry about freezing.
Is the distance from the Earth to the Sun changing? (Advanced) - Curious About Astronomy? Ask an Astronomer
So assuming the Earth is 4 billion years old and the Sun is loosing it's mass due to fusion, then 4 billion inches equals 63,131 miles farther away then
92,955,807 miles it is today. That means the Sun was 92,892,676 miles 4 billion years ago then it is today.
The distance from Earth to the sun is called an astronomical unit, or AU, which is used to measure distances throughout the solar system. The AU has been defined as 149,597,870,700 meters (92,955,807 miles). Astronomers use the AU for measuring distances throughout the solar system.Sep 17, 2012
How Far is Earth from the Sun?

So how sure are you about your "constants" in your above comments???

This addresses one of the huge flaws in scientific theory. That things work the same today that they did thousands of years ago. Obviously we can't test things back then so assuming its the same is a logical way of dealing with it. But the fact is it's still an assumption.
 
So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?
No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.
You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.
Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.

Don't you know? It's not proven that human organs can be transplanted to another. Or that parts of the electromagnetic spectrum can be modulated so as to carry information that can be received and decoded remotely.

This is all very much theory.

Cell phones will fail because it's not proven science.

It's not theory because we do it every day, moron. When has the global warming cult ever been right about anything? When have the ever predicted the temperature 10 years ahead of time?

They aren't even accurate predicting ten days out
 
So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?
No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.
You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.
Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.
Climate Change isn't fact. Its SOME "scientists" opinions and its no where near universally approved as fact.
No, climate change IS recorded fact, for years from all over the world. What to do about it and the predictions of what will happen next are what people are questioning.

I don't think you have to think very hard about their predictions to know how ridiculous they are. Let me give you a couple:

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

How Climate Change Helped ISIS | HuffPost

And That’s the Way It Was: In 1972, Cronkite Warned of ‘New Ice Age’

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

VIDEO: ABC 7 years ago, predicting NYC would be under water in 2015 because of global warming
 
That's the way one learns. Not by shutting down discussion.
Students should question things they are skeptical about,

Except by definition, the student doesn't know shit.

Maybe a left tard's child. Three honor students here, you don't get that for not knowimg shit

Only because they FOLLOWED the curriculum, dope.

You obviously are not nor ever was a honor student. Ours also attend private schools. It's a joy to watch when they debate public school children. They are light years ahead of them. They haven't been indoctrinated, they know how to think on their own

An honor student by definition is one who followed the curriculum better than others.
Private school or not, the curriculum is set by the state.

You made the argument that your kids are conformists.

Apparently it skips a generation. :laugh2:
 
Facts cannot be challenged.

The sky is blue and water boils at 100c. Period.
I'm showing this because the "global warming" community seems to have difficulty with simple arithmetic .
In summary the expert says 353 billion trees would cover 24% of the earth. So that would mean 100% of the earth surface would be covered by 4 times 353 billion
or about 1.4 trillion trees. Yet some others say we already have 3 trillion trees. You "scientific" types... explain the simple math that seems the experts can't agree on!
Oh and also explain how with 1.6 trillion trees absorbing ALL the CO2 emitted we have a problem?

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You have problem with simple truths.
This is fact.



That maybe the case but I can do simple math. That is if the "global warming" expert says 353 billion trees would cover 24% of the Earth that would mean
4 times 353 billion is 1.4 trillion trees. But other "scientists" say there are already 3 Trillion trees and maybe 10 times that!
So you tell me who should I believe?


Blah, blah, blah.

The rate of warming for a given volume is quantifiable.
 
No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.
You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.
Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.
Climate Change isn't fact. Its SOME "scientists" opinions and its no where near universally approved as fact.
No, climate change IS recorded fact, for years from all over the world. What to do about it and the predictions of what will happen next are what people are questioning.

I don't think you have to think very hard about their predictions to know how ridiculous they are. Let me give you a couple:

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

How Climate Change Helped ISIS | HuffPost

And That’s the Way It Was: In 1972, Cronkite Warned of ‘New Ice Age’

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

VIDEO: ABC 7 years ago, predicting NYC would be under water in 2015 because of global warming


I remember being taught that NYC would be under water by 2010 if we didn't address this problem. Last time I checked its still above water
 
That's the way one learns. Not by shutting down discussion.

Except by definition, the student doesn't know shit.

Maybe a left tard's child. Three honor students here, you don't get that for not knowimg shit

Only because they FOLLOWED the curriculum, dope.

You obviously are not nor ever was a honor student. Ours also attend private schools. It's a joy to watch when they debate public school children. They are light years ahead of them. They haven't been indoctrinated, they know how to think on their own

An honor student by definition is one who followed the curriculum better than others.
Private school or not, the curriculum is set by the state.

You made the argument that your kids are conformists.

Apparently it skips a generation. :laugh2:

Again, you have no clue what a honor student is nor do you know the first thing about private school curriculum.

There is a reason they run circles around your little indocrinated tykes. They can think outside the box

Here, learn something

Teen Ink
 
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