Florida Passes “Anti-Science” Law

[OldLady]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?

No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.

You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.

Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.

Climate Change isn't fact. Its SOME "scientists" opinions and its no where near universally approved as fact.

No, climate change IS recorded fact, for years from all over the world. What to do about it and the predictions of what will happen next are what people are questioning.

 

[Preacher]

So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?

No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.

You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.

Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.

Climate Change isn't fact. Its SOME "scientists" opinions and its no where near universally approved as fact.

No, climate change IS recorded fact, for years from all over the world. What to do about it and the predictions of what will happen next are what people are questioning.

Opinions of SOME scientists. Its not even close to a consensus as fact. Never will be.

 

[westwall]

So you want to FORCE people to believe YOUR beliefs...thought you clowns were all about freedom?

No one wants to FORCE you to believe the facts. However, I believe we have a right to want our decisions based on good solid facts rather than foolishness to support the Orange Menace.

You have a right to believe what you want,You DO NOT have the right to force them on anyone.

Decisions on environmental issues should be based on facts. One doesn't choose to "believe" facts; they are not supposed to be viewed as opinions. In this country, our decisions that will impact the future and how to prepare for a warming planet and the changes that is bringing and will bring more of need to be as fact based as possible or we will make a mistake.
Don't treat scientific facts as if they were an opinion on which is the best movie. Or the best religion. That is a really frightening stance.

Climate Change isn't fact. Its SOME "scientists" opinions and its no where near universally approved as fact.

No, climate change IS recorded fact, for years from all over the world. What to do about it and the predictions of what will happen next are what people are questioning.

Correct. Climate change is always happening. Man however, has no measurable impact on that climate.

 

[PredFan]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over



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Here's a fact; I'm 61 years old and have lived in Florida since 1968. I was an avid surfer and still go to the beach on a regular basis. The sea levels are not rising. The jetty's are the same, the docks and piers are the same, the beaches come up to the same place and the inlets and waterways are all at the same levels.

What you post is pure lies. That's what our Governor is trying to stop, lies being taught as fact.

You are totally fullofshyte, comprehende?

No comprehende, YOU don't even know wtf you are saying.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Students should question things they are skeptical about,

Adults and children should question everything but that's not what RWNJs say or believe.

I don't know how the right got to be so stubbornly stupid, but now you dummies are passing laws outlawing using the words "climate change".

SassyIrishLass You worship the most wealthy institution in our history. You pretend to care about fetuses while you spit on babies and children and bow down to pedophiles.




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[MaryL]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.
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It's to late for a April fools prank. I am not sure what practical advantage such a law is, if indeed this is an actual LAW. I see America as becoming a thin skinned bunch of reactionaries.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
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There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law.

Link?

Ever hear of Mike Pence? Or any of the other rabid right who have been waging war against rights, freedoms and the US Constition.

While the cheeto isn't christian or RW, he will happily pass any laws that put money in his pocket. Rabid RW bible thumpers are already taking advantage of that.


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[westwall]

Students should question things they are skeptical about,

Adults and children should question everything but that's not what RWNJs say or believe.

I don't know how the right got to be so stubbornly stupid, but now you dummies are passing laws outlawing using the words "climate change".

SassyIrishLass You worship the most wealthy institution in our history. You pretend to care about fetuses while you spit on babies and children and bow down to pedophiles.




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This is hilarious coming from an imbecile who says the "science is settled" so stop challenging what we say!

Good show!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Students should question things they are skeptical about,

Adults and children should question everything but that's not what RWNJs say or believe.

I don't know how the right got to be so stubbornly stupid, but now you dummies are passing laws outlawing using the words "climate change".

SassyIrishLass You worship the most wealthy institution in our history. You pretend to care about fetuses while you spit on babies and children and bow down to pedophiles.




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We have three adopted children. What say you Lugnut?

Now shut up and sit down, toad

 

[JBond]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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View attachment 136518

Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.
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There is a renewed effort in the US for fake Christians to try to impose Christian Sharia law on the rest of the population. In red states children don't go to school to learn facts, they go to learn how facts can't be right because they contradict Christian Sharia law.

Link?

Ever hear of Mike Pence? Or any of the other rabid right who have been waging war against rights, freedoms and the US Constition.

While the cheeto isn't christian or RW, he will happily pass any laws that put money in his pocket. Rabid RW bible thumpers are already taking advantage of that.


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Lol! What a drama queen. Keep it up. It's working well. The silly tantrums are entertaining. Your lies have become comical at this point.

 

[Avatar4321]

Facts cannot be challenged.

The sky is blue and water boils at 100c. Period.

I'm showing this because the "global warming" community seems to have difficulty with simple arithmetic .
In summary the expert says 353 billion trees would cover 24% of the earth. So that would mean 100% of the earth surface would be covered by 4 times 353 billion
or about 1.4 trillion trees. Yet some others say we already have 3 trillion trees. You "scientific" types... explain the simple math that seems the experts can't agree on!
Oh and also explain how with 1.6 trillion trees absorbing ALL the CO2 emitted we have a problem?

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Maybe there is a lot of overlap with the trees. Also, what about the oceans, are they accounted for in the estimate. Not very many trees in the ocean as far as I know.

Duh... that's why if you read what the "expert" said he said: "earth's surface"!
And I'm pretty sure even though his math maybe questioned he would agree trees don't grow in the ocean.
But evidently you missed the point.
Global warming expert can't do simple math. Therefore how can this or any of the global warming experts' calculations have any creditability?

They can't even tell us what temperature the world is supposed to be.

I've always wondered why there was oil exploration in the Arctic and Antartica considering this is required to create coal/petroleum.
Crude oil, coal and gas are fossil fuels. They were formed over millions of years, from the remains of dead organisms, coal was formed from dead plant material. crude oil and gas were formed from dead marine organisms.
BBC - GCSE Bitesize: Fossil fuels


In a chapter on Energy Minerals in the Encyclopedia of the Antarctic of 2007, MacDonald, professor for petroleum geology at the University of Aberdeen, explains that the only exploitable coal is hard to get to and that no oil and gas has ever been found. “The petroleum potential is unproven (but likely to be low). Coupled with the difficulties of working in the harsh environment, it is unlikely that any exploration will occur in the future”, the chapter concludes.
THE ANTARCTIC OIL MYTH - Antarctic and Southern Ocean Coalition

So if dead plant material formed coal and dead marine formed oil and gas...hmmmm are there any plants growing in Antartica now?
Hmmmm...

I've questioned whether fossil fuels are really formed from dead organisms for a while.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Facts cannot be challenged.

The sky is blue and water boils at 100c. Period.

I'm showing this because the "global warming" community seems to have difficulty with simple arithmetic .
In summary the expert says 353 billion trees would cover 24% of the earth. So that would mean 100% of the earth surface would be covered by 4 times 353 billion
or about 1.4 trillion trees. Yet some others say we already have 3 trillion trees. You "scientific" types... explain the simple math that seems the experts can't agree on!
Oh and also explain how with 1.6 trillion trees absorbing ALL the CO2 emitted we have a problem?

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You have problem with simple truths.
This is fact.

 

[MaryL]

I guess some of us muggles don't appreciate magic realism and how reality can be offensive.

 

[Avatar4321]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.





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Kids SHOULD be encouraged to challenge scientific facts. Encourage them to do research and find out for themselves, or give them experiments that demonstrate the facts. That's far better than teaching them to accept everything uncritically just because a "scientist" said so.

That's the way one learns. Not by shutting down discussion.

Students should question things they are skeptical about,

One of our twins challenged a teacher's aide to a debate on the Crusades, the aide accepted and our daughter absolutley crushed the aide. It was pure gold watching her dismantle the aide. To the aide's credit she admitted she lost.

Is your "daughter" a lying POS like you, honey bunch?

She'd take your stupid ass in any debate, pumpkin

Not to speak ill of your daughter, but that's not difficult

 

[Hutch Starskey]

water boils at 100c. Period.

Depends on your altitude.

Water boiling point is a couple of degrees lower in Denver, Colorado. ...

It's different on Mars as well, retard.

 

[Avatar4321]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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View attachment 136518

Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.





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Kids SHOULD be encouraged to challenge scientific facts. Encourage them to do research and find out for themselves, or give them experiments that demonstrate the facts. That's far better than teaching them to accept everything uncritically just because a "scientist" said so.

Kids should also be free to challenge "religious facts", so they know they are all a scam.

Which is why we encourage them to ask honest questions and seek the answers.

I know this probably comes as a shock to you but most people who have genuine faith believe because they sought the Lord until He answered. The Holy Ghost teaches us the truth of all things.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Students should question things they are skeptical about,

Only up until the point of being deemed special needs.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Conservatives in Florida got their wish last Monday when their governor, Rick Scott signed a bill into law guaranteeing scientific facts taught in public schools can be challenged if they offend an individual’s personal beliefs.

Climate change tops the list of such facts denied by conservatives. But will they be as happy about this law when they find their homes waste-deep in seawater? Or, when they are finally forced to tread water 24/7 if they wish to remain in Florida?

The oceans ARE rising, and Florida’s conservatives will eventually discover how burying their head’s in the sand will have them drowning much sooner. This is going to make being a devoted Republican much, much more difficult.

Two Sad Ironies In Florida Passing Its 'Anti-Science' Law

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Debating a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon, they wander around the board aimlessly, sh!t on everything, and still believe they won. And they prove this over and over and over.





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Where you fuck up is in thinking that the AGW religion is somehow related to "science." It isn't, you are no more scientific in your faith than a Jehovah's Witness or a Jones Town cultist.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Facts cannot be challenged.

The sky is blue and water boils at 100c. Period.

Dogma cannot be challenged, real science is ALWAYS challenged, cult boi.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Facts cannot be challenged.

The sky is blue and water boils at 100c. Period.

You don't know much about water do.you we are still learning.





The many mysteries of water



By David Robson and Michael Marshall

No liquid behaves quite as oddly as water. It exhibits a raft of unusual behaviours, many of which are essential for life as we know it. We list water’s peculiarities below.

In The strangest liquid, we look at how a controversial new theory could finally explain water’s weird behaviour. Here we explain how the theory could explain 10 of water’s behaviours – and then take a quick look at its many other peculiarities.

Read more: Martin Chaplin of London South Bank University has posted a much moredetailed and technical discussion of these anomalies.

Water’s mysteries
Picturing water as a liquid that can form two types of structure, one tetrahedral and the other disordered, could explain many of its unusual properties. Here are 10 of them.



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Water is most dense at 4 °C

EXPLANATION: Heating reduces the number of ordered, tetrahedral structures in favour of a more disordered arrangement in which molecules are more densely packed. However, the heat also agitates the molecules in the disordered regions, causing them to move further apart. Above 4 °C, this effect takes precedence, making the water less dense

Water has an exceptionally high specific heat capacity: it takes a lot of heat energy to raise water’s temperature by a given amount

EXPLANATION: Much of the extra heat energy is used to convert more molecules from the tetrahedral structures to the disordered structures, rather than into increasing the kinetic energy of the molecules, and hence the temperature.

Specific heat capacity is at a minimum at 35 °C but increases as the temperature falls or rises, whereas the heat capacity of most other liquids rises continuously with temperature.

EXPLANATION: Between 0 and 35 °C, increasing the temperature steadily removes regions of ordered, tetrahedral structure, reducing water’s ability to absorb heat. Above 35 °C, so few of the tetrahedral regions are left that water behaves like a regular liquid.

Water’s compressibility drops with increasing temperature until it reaches a minimum at 46 °C, whereas in most liquids, the compressibility rises continuously with temperature

EXPLANATION: As the temperature rises, the dense, disordered regions become more prevalent, and these are more difficult to compress. However, rising temperature also forces molecules within these regions further apart and hence makes them more compressible. This effect takes precedence beyond 46 °C.

Water is particularly difficult to compress

EXPLANATION: The strong attraction between water molecules keeps them more closely packed than the molecules of many other liquids.

This effect is particularly marked when the higher-density disordered structure dominates

The speed of sound in water increases with temperature up to 74 °C, after which it starts to fall again

EXPLANATION: This is the result of the interplay between water’s unusual density and compressibility profiles, which directly stem from the changing balance between the two types of structure.

Water molecules diffuse more easily, not less easily, at higher pressures

EXPLANATION: High pressure converts more molecules to the disordered structure, in which they are more mobile.

Unlike many liquids, water becomes less viscous, not more viscous, at higher pressures

EXPLANATION: Molecules are freer to move when in the disordered structures, which are favoured at higher pressures, than when they are in the ordered, tetrahedral structure.

Increasing the pressure increases the amount by which water expands on heating

EXPLANATION: Rising temperature causes disordered regions to expand more rapidly than ordered, tetrahedral ones, and high pressure favours fluctuations to the disordered regions.

Properties such as viscosity, boiling point and melting point are significantly different in “heavy” water – made from the heavier hydrogen isotopes deuterium and tritium – compared with their equivalents in normal water.

EXPLANATION: The heavier isotopes change the quantum mechanical properties of water molecules, altering the balance of the disordered and tetrahedral regions.

Phase anomalies
Water has an unusually high melting/freezing point.

Water has an unusually high boiling point.

Water has an unusually high critical point. This is the temperature at which the distinct liquid and gas states cease to exist. Instead, there is only a supercritical fluid, which can diffuse through solids just like a gas but also dissolve things just like a liquid. Water’s critical point is at a temperature of 374 °C and a pressure of 217 atmospheres: above this temperature, it is a supercritical fluid.

Solid water exists in a wider variety of stable (and metastable) crystal and amorphous structures than other materials.

The thermal conductivity of ice falls with increasing pressure.

The structure of liquid water changes at high pressure.

Supercooled water – that is, water that has been cooled below its freezing point without it becoming a solid – behaves strangely. It has two phases and a second critical point at about -91°C.

Liquid water is easy to supercool, but difficult to turn into a glass-like solid.

Liquid water exists at very low temperatures and freezes on heating.

Liquid water may be easily superheated: that is, heated to a temperature above its boiling point without it boiling.

Hot water may freeze faster than cold water– the Mpemba effect.

Warm water vibrates longer than cold water.

Density anomalies
The density of ice increases on heating (up to a temperature of -203 °C). Normally, solids expand and become less dense when heated.

Water shrinks on melting, when most substances expand.

Pressure reduces ice’s melting point, when it normally increases it: pressure normally encourages a substance to become a solid.

Liquid water has a high density that increases on heating (up to 3.984 °C). Heating a liquid normally causes it to expand, reducing its density.

The surface of water is denser than the bulk. This may be because the density of the surface water does not vary with temperature as the density of the bulk does.

Pressure reduces the temperature of maximum density.

There is a minimum in the density of supercooled water.

Water has a low thermal expansivity: for a given increase in temperature, it does not expand as much as it might be expected to.

Water’s thermal expansivity decreases at low temperatures. Below 4 °C, it becomes negative – so if you heat water that is below this temperature, it will shrink.

The number of nearest neighbours that each water molecule has increases on melting. Normally, because the molecules of a liquid are moving around so much more, any one molecule is likely to have fewer nearest neighbours than if it were part of a solid.

The number of nearest neighbours increases with temperature. This happens because the increasing temperatures break down the hydrogen bond network holding the molecules in place, allowing them to move closer to each other.

There is a maximum in the compressibility-temperature relationship, probably near the temperature at which the density is lowest.

The speed of sound may show a minimum.

High-frequency sounds travel as “fast sound”, because for these frequencies water behaves as if it is a glassy solid rather than a liquid. Water also shows a discontinuity at higher pressure, probably as a result of the water molecules rearranging themselves.

Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spin-lattice relaxation time is very small at low temperatures. In other words, if the nuclei of the atoms making up water are excited to a higher energy level – for instance by a magnetic field – they return to their previous, lower energy level unusually fast.

The NMR shift increases to a maximum at low (supercool) temperatures.

The refractive index of water – that is, how much light is slowed down, and thus deflected, when it enters water – has a maximum value at just below 0 °C.

The change in volume as liquid water changes to gas is unusually large.

You go and discover the mysteries of water.
Boil water at sea level 1,000 times and report your findings, dope.