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The left in this thread are trying to focus on Republican politics instead of seeing the real threat that is right in front of them.
Especially rdean. Despicable
Q. What is the real threat
A. A man with a gun
This week a terrorist opened fire in a Tel Aviv shopping mall. This had the potential for a massacre but instead only 4 people were killed. You want to know the difference? Israeli authorities are armed to the teeth. All heathy individuals serve in the military.
1. All Israel Jews conscripted to be soldiers at age 18. Not all serve but a decent amount do serve.
2. More Israeli's know how to correctly handle a crisis situation because their military training comes into play.
3. A gun doesn't sprout legs and start shooting, it requires an outside force to activate it and deactivate it. You get a person with a gun who is willing to die for their beliefs the only thing that's going to stop him is another person with a gun. If he doesn't have a gun he will use another means of destruction so the problem isn't the gun, it's the human. He could kill just as easily with a pressure cooker bomb.
Conscription in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I hope the one that you didn't hear from is also safe.I'm glad nobody you knew was in there. Unfortunately somebody was.Dive or not it still must have been popular. Sounds like it was pretty crowded. I have gay family members;this doesn't make me happy thinking this could happen to them.I have nearly a dozen gay friends and acquaintances. None of them go to this club. They say it's a dive bar.
I could be that my friends who are gay don't go to gay bars I suppose. I've never been in there but I drive by it every day and it looks bad from the outside.
I've heard from all of the gay people I know, except one, all are safe.
So called "gun violence" is a nonissue in this country. I thought you progressives hated guilt by association. LOLYou aren't really taking your cues from some unconfirmed internet meme, are you? No one in law enforcement has given any such information. No news source is providing such details. But, if an anonymous internet meme said it, it must be so, right?He was a registered Democrat, he did some hate'n on them gays at that nightclub... Lol
It's all over the news...what a conundrum for the left, a Muslim democrat shooting up a gay nightclub.
"shooting up a gay nightclue with a GUN. Another problem for the NRA and its supporters. But they have a solution, more guns.
Cease deflecting, the NRA had nothing to do with some goat fugging fool shooting up a gay nightclub
Their policies and money given to members of Congress and the GOP have everything to do with gun violence in America.
"As usual, take these updates with the typical grain of salt in the early hours."
Your own article says not to put too much stock in the updates. But, hey! As long as it sounds bad, who cares how reliable the information is, right?
And how is "American Citizen' not relevant, considering the slanderous, inaccurate slurs the post was referring to?My "ill conceived" post?!?! One would think that the ill conceived post cane from the mindless fuck that felt the need to talk about "Sand Ni99ers" third post into the discussion, before anyone even knew who the shooter was. But, you know, maybe that's just me...And his heritage matters, because...?Born in New York City, and lived in Port St. Lucie. So, can we stop with the "Sand Ni**er", "Camel Jockey" comments? This was an American Citizen who did this.
It's funny how you lefties love to separate people by race or ethnicity until it serves you not to, then you call them Americans no matter what their heritage.
It may not, but I was just making an observation about your Ill conceived post.
Apologies, the insistence on using the label "American Citizen" is the part that I am ridiculing. Not the whole post. I stand corrected.
He didn't emigrate here; his parents did. He was born in New York City. I'm pretty sure that's still in the United States. It was the last time I checked, anyway....this ISLAMIC TERRORISM...
...committed by An. American. Citizen. What, exactly, has Trump proposed that would address that?
From Afghanistan. Why do you not mention that particular part of the equation? I am all for people emigrating here from the various shitholes they are leaving. However, once they come here they MUST adhere to our way of life, which is one of tolerance, and acceptance that just because someone doesn't believe in your particular God doesn't give you the right to kill them.
You idiots want every Tom Dick or Harry to come here, but then you allow them to bring their Third World shithole way of life with them, and then, when they do this sort of thing, which is second nature to them, decide that disarming us, who don't behave like these animals, have to be disarmed. It doesn't stop them where they are in the Third World, what makes you think it will prevent them here?
Gays, be afraid the Muslims are coming... Be very afraidAnd how is "American Citizen' not relevant, considering the slanderous, inaccurate slurs the post was referring to?My "ill conceived" post?!?! One would think that the ill conceived post cane from the mindless fuck that felt the need to talk about "Sand Ni99ers" third post into the discussion, before anyone even knew who the shooter was. But, you know, maybe that's just me...And his heritage matters, because...?It's funny how you lefties love to separate people by race or ethnicity until it serves you not to, then you call them Americans no matter what their heritage.
It may not, but I was just making an observation about your Ill conceived post.
Apologies, the insistence on using the label "American Citizen" is the part that I am ridiculing. Not the whole post. I stand corrected.
What have I posted that was not accurate?"As usual, take these updates with the typical grain of salt in the early hours."
Your own article says not to put too much stock in the updates. But, hey! As long as it sounds bad, who cares how reliable the information is, right?
You certainly don't seem to care about accuracy.
I sit here thinking "at least omar did not get to a bunch of young innocent children", I try to be upset about it, but just comfortably Numb. Not surprised. Keep shoving gay crap in peoples face... can't open mailer ad or TV w/o freakin ellen mug on.....
My thinking is CRYSTAL CLEAR. I see the motive behind the killing which is something that plagues the world. You see an inanimate object & nothing else.I'm beginning to think a "tolerate" liberal is more of a threat than a jihadist
Clearly not, you've not yet begun to think.
Even IF he didn't have access to the ar15 Americans WOULD STILL BE DEAD BY HIS HAND.
His ideology is not American. His motives are straight from our enemies. He pledged his life to isis in front of the police.He didn't emigrate here; his parents did. He was born in New York City. I'm pretty sure that's still in the United states. it was the last time I checked, anyway....this ISLAMIC TERRORISM...
...committed by An. American. Citizen. What, exactly, has Trump proposed that would address that?
From Afghanistan. Why do you not mention that particular part of the equation? I am all for people emigrating here from the various shitholes they are leaving. However, once they come here they MUST adhere to our way of life, which is one of tolerance, and acceptance that just because someone doesn't believe in your particular God doesn't give you the right to kill them.
You idiots want every Tom Dick or Harry to come here, but then you allow them to bring their Third World shithole way of life with them, and then, when they do this sort of thing, which is second nature to them, decide that disarming us, who don't behave like these animals, have to be disarmed. It doesn't stop them where they are in the Third World, what makes you think it will prevent them here?
You aren't really taking your cues from some unconfirmed internet meme, are you? No one in law enforcement has given any such information. No news source is providing such details. But, if an anonymous internet meme said it, it must be so, right?He was a registered Democrat, he did some hate'n on them gays at that nightclub... Lol
It's all over the news...what a conundrum for the left, a Muslim democrat shooting up a gay nightclub.
"shooting up a gay nightclue with a GUN. Another problem for the NRA and its supporters. But they have a solution, more guns.
Cease deflecting, the NRA had nothing to do with some goat fugging fool shooting up a gay nightclub
Their policies and money given to members of Congress and the GOP have everything to do with gun violence in America.
The "gun" has nothing to do with it... You're guilty of guilt by association. DumbassYou miss the issue by a mile.This isn't a Democratic issue or a Republican issue, a liberal issue or a conservative issue, it is a gun access issue.
A gun doesn't walk into a bar and commit a horrific act, the gun is a tool used by a human being who is fueled by hate and likely fear. Too often we have seen mass killings by a single individual, and too often we see defenders of guns call for more guns, as if more killing is the solution.
The Congress, The President and the Supreme Court have the power and duty to act in the best interests of the citizens of our nation. That collectively those members of the Congress who do not act, and defend the 2nd A. as if ordained by God, are culpable, as are those single issue voters who support them.
Unless and until the NRA and the gun industry recognize mass murder by gun is a problem, and one which cannot be fixed by adding more guns to the problem, all of us remain at risk - even those who think concealed carry will keep them safe.
Not a surprise actually.
This is an Islam issue. You take away his ar15 and you STILL have dead Americans.
Period, end of discussion
I miss the issue? Consider mass murders which occurred in the US during the past 10 years? How many were committed by followers of Islam? How many by a man with a gun?
Drudge jumping to conclusions. Was he at the gay club?
Anyone know what's happening with the Dylann Roof case?So here we go again folks. How many more terrorist attacks do we need under this administration?
I wonder how many more syrians hillary wants to import? perhaps obama and hillary have a secret plan to exterminate gays.
What was his political motive?So Roof murders with a political motive and no one will call it terrorism. Interesting.
I find it absolutely disgusting and irresponsible of the media without full facts to attach this shit to muslims. When we all know in our guts, its some fucked up white guy, in his mid 40's, with fuckin redneck names that probably responsible for this shit....which is always the fuckin case. How fuckin convenient that we're all having this debate of transgender using fuckin bathrooms and now this? Call me cinical, but this is just too bizzare of a coincident. Not to mention...AN ELECTION YEAR!!!!
But here's the deal folks, if we're to be a nation wrapped in the 2nd amendment, than expect this day after day after day until we're all dead from assault riffles.
Last but not least....Florida, this SYG state, this everyone should own a gun state....uh, we're was Zimmerman? Bottom line, NEVER EVER DOES JOHN WAYNE SHOW UP WITH HIS GUN AT HAND TO PREVENT SHIT LIKE THIS.......just sayin
As we don't know who is responsible at this point, perhaps we'd better save wild accusations until you know you won't look stupid later if it proves to be some other party.
sounds like feral rightwing christer terrorists, Orlando is a hot bed of christer taliban like fundamentalist groups
how in the fuck do you know its a muslim? Bet my last dolla, its a fucked up redneck!!So now how long until gays start getting thrown off tall buildings in America by these "peaceful" Muslims the left embraces so much???
Fucking disgusting.
Let's hope he wiped as many disease ridden sodomites out as he could!. This is today's feel good story.
This disgusting post is what many people see as the "conservative view" on the attack.
How many more gay-hating radical islamists will obozo let into this country? This shooting is a direct result of the left wing policy of letting everyone into this country with no vetting.
The blood of these dead americans is on the hands of Obama and everyone who supports his treasonous open border policies.
The guy is a citizen. Let's talk about the NRA and loose gun laws.
Oh and she said since the shooters daddy said this has nothing to do with religion then that's that.
Well, his father would be far more qualified to speculate on the man's state of mind than you. The father said that he seemed to become irate when seeing two men kissing a few weeks back. That suggests this could have been just plain old homophobia.
You miss the issue by a mile.This isn't a Democratic issue or a Republican issue, a liberal issue or a conservative issue, it is a gun access issue.
A gun doesn't walk into a bar and commit a horrific act, the gun is a tool used by a human being who is fueled by hate and likely fear. Too often we have seen mass killings by a single individual, and too often we see defenders of guns call for more guns, as if more killing is the solution.
The Congress, The President and the Supreme Court have the power and duty to act in the best interests of the citizens of our nation. That collectively those members of the Congress who do not act, and defend the 2nd A. as if ordained by God, are culpable, as are those single issue voters who support them.
Unless and until the NRA and the gun industry recognize mass murder by gun is a problem, and one which cannot be fixed by adding more guns to the problem, all of us remain at risk - even those who think concealed carry will keep them safe.
Not a surprise actually.
This is an Islam issue. You take away his ar15 and you STILL have dead Americans.
Period, end of discussion
I miss the issue? Consider mass murders which occurred in the US during the past 10 years? How many were committed by followers of Islam? How many by a man with a gun?
"American"? We have a universal ideology? Wow. Someone really ought to tell Don, and Hillary that. Cuz, I'm pretty sure they do not share an ideology.His ideology is not American. His motives are straight from our enemies.He didn't emigrate here; his parents did. He was born in New York City. I'm pretty sure that's still in the United states. it was the last time I checked, anyway....this ISLAMIC TERRORISM...
...committed by An. American. Citizen. What, exactly, has Trump proposed that would address that?
From Afghanistan. Why do you not mention that particular part of the equation? I am all for people emigrating here from the various shitholes they are leaving. However, once they come here they MUST adhere to our way of life, which is one of tolerance, and acceptance that just because someone doesn't believe in your particular God doesn't give you the right to kill them.
You idiots want every Tom Dick or Harry to come here, but then you allow them to bring their Third World shithole way of life with them, and then, when they do this sort of thing, which is second nature to them, decide that disarming us, who don't behave like these animals, have to be disarmed. It doesn't stop them where they are in the Third World, what makes you think it will prevent them here?
That "information" comes from an unconfirmed tweet. How about we stick to the things we know, not what someone tweets in the moment. No actual law enforcement agency has suggested that happened.He pledged his life to isis in front of the police.
Outside of his place of birth NOTHING about this killer is American
