Florida's largest police union endorses Trump in unanimous vote.

[kyzr]

And you can rest assured it ain't just Florida.
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The Florida PBA makes its first endorsement in eight years; PBA President John Kazanjian explains ahead of his meeting with the president.

Let's see.... people that actively support criminals, prevent cops from defending themselves, put them in prison if they do defend themselves, and otherwise want to defund the police and support total anarchy and a break down of all society......

Or Trump.

The police Unions are not supporting Trump... they are voting against the insanity and evil of the Democrats.... and RIGHTLY SO.

We have trump and riots and chaos. If he is capable of fixing our problems we wouldn’t have them.

You missed it. The Democrats have aligned themselves with destroying the police and promoting violence.

It doesn't matter who is the alternative is. I don't know what you do for a living, but if you were an accountant, and the Democraps openly endorsed eliminating accountants... You would vote against the Democrats.

Yeah, all of us would.

The Democraps have made themselves disgusting to a large portion of society. You are pushing people into voting for Trump, with every action at this point.

I actually think there is a very real possibility of a land slide victory for Trump in November. Could wrong! I've been wrong most of my entire life, so this wouldn't be a shocker.

But you are right about one thing. Trump can't fix the violence and riots and looting, and chaos.

You know who can? The Democrap mayors and governors. They can support their police, activate the national guard, and end the violence.

They are choosing to do the reverse. That makes them horrible evil people. That going to reflect itself in the election I wager.

Huge debt, bailouts, recession, riots, closings... that is trump. Failure.

Huge debt, begging for a bailout, recession, riot, close everything down.....that’s the Dim run states. Epic fail from them and you there.

I think "brain" is a Leftist economist, which itself makes no sense?!
He has TDS really bad.

 

[lantern2814]

Doesn’t make them look good, he represents lies and corruption.

Crazy Joe represents senility, Socialism, and domestic terrorism.

4 years ago was a whole lot better than this garbage.

Crazy Joe is worse than Hitlery?

Wow!

4 years ago Joe was VP and things were way better. You clowns can keep lying, but nobody is buying it. Country is in ruins .

No... not buying that... because we still remember Ferguson, and Chicago, and so on. The break down of society was well underway, before Trump even announced plans to run for office.

This is the idiotic aspect of the left. When your guy is in office, the entire world can be burning to ash... and you dumb stupid lemmings, would be praising and singing all the way to hell.

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That was under Obama. Not Trump.

Murder in Chicago: Finding the Ferguson Effect in 10 Graphs - Joe Leider

On August 9, 2014, Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson. Since that time, murder rates in some cities have spiked. Our current President has extrapolated a society in chaos from that spike. Indeed, we’re tempted to draw the conclusion that the Ferguson killing caused the spike in murder rates...

joeleider.com

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Murder rates ^^^^^^^^^

That wasn't Trump, when murders went up.... it was Obama.

The country was flying apart from Obama. You can't blame Trump, for a problems that started under Obama.

You just had your partisan bigot eye glasses on, and could not see your own suck. And that's what it was.... total SUCK. You did this. Not Trump. Sorry.

The country was THRIVING under Obama. Longest recession free period in US history. Longest Bull Market is US history. Longest period of 200,000 new jobs in US history. Unemployment under 5% and steadily declining. Tripled the stock market. Most Americans covered by health insurance in US history. Deficit under $1 billion. Lowest crime rates in 35 years.

Three years in and Trump has crashed the economy - again. Highest rate of unemployment in US history. Worst Pandemic since 1918. Worst racial unrest since the 1960's. 150,000 dead, and now Trump is trying to FORCE Americans back to work by cutting off their unemployment insurance.

Crashed the economy? Nope. By the way, that’s extra $600 a week was money you lazy people were NEVER entitled to. Unemployment is paid by the states. High unemployment? No, it’s blue states keeping things closed on purpose. Racially unrest is all on the leftist bigots, not Trump. Totally debunked in near record time.

 

[Billiejeens]

And you can rest assured it ain't just Florida.
View attachment 369505

The Florida PBA makes its first endorsement in eight years; PBA President John Kazanjian explains ahead of his meeting with the president.

Let's see.... people that actively support criminals, prevent cops from defending themselves, put them in prison if they do defend themselves, and otherwise want to defund the police and support total anarchy and a break down of all society......

Or Trump.

The police Unions are not supporting Trump... they are voting against the insanity and evil of the Democrats.... and RIGHTLY SO.

We have trump and riots and chaos. If he is capable of fixing our problems we wouldn’t have them.

You missed it. The Democrats have aligned themselves with destroying the police and promoting violence.

It doesn't matter who is the alternative is. I don't know what you do for a living, but if you were an accountant, and the Democraps openly endorsed eliminating accountants... You would vote against the Democrats.

Yeah, all of us would.

The Democraps have made themselves disgusting to a large portion of society. You are pushing people into voting for Trump, with every action at this point.

I actually think there is a very real possibility of a land slide victory for Trump in November. Could wrong! I've been wrong most of my entire life, so this wouldn't be a shocker.

But you are right about one thing. Trump can't fix the violence and riots and looting, and chaos.

You know who can? The Democrap mayors and governors. They can support their police, activate the national guard, and end the violence.

They are choosing to do the reverse. That makes them horrible evil people. That going to reflect itself in the election I wager.

Huge debt, bailouts, recession, riots, closings... that is trump. Failure.

You caused that. You caused all of that. And Obama did all of those things. Obama caused closings, riots, the recession itself was caused by actions Obama supported. We know that for a fact. We have his name on a court action that forced Citigroup to make bad loans. Bailouts Obama supported. Seriously, how does GMAC end up being declared a "bank" can get TARP money? And huge debts? Obama doubled the national debt in his first 4 years.

There is nothing that Trump has done, that Obama didn't do. That makes you a hypocrite.

And still nothing you said is even an argument in this discussion. We're talking about the Police Union supporting Trump over the democraps. Which is completely logical, and you know it. You know that if you were an officer, you would be supporting Trump right now, as all officers, including all the black officers, are supporting Trump.

You can't even attempt an argument why they shouldn't, and you know it.

4 years ago things were so much better. The ruin came with trump.

So since you simply repeated your previous unsupported statements.... I'll repeat my entirely supported statements.

View attachment 369627

This was under Obama. Riots, looting, social brake down, racial tension....

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Mass protests, fires, violence in the streets, police officers being killed.

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Dramatic increase in murders and chaos as police pulled back.

All happened under Obama. The nation was tearing itself apart, before Trump even announced plans to run for office.

Facts over feelings, sir. Facts 'trump' your opinion. (pun intended).

And everything is worse with trump. Clearly he can’t fix anything.

Trump didn't do. Obama started this path. How would Trump fix it?

This is like cancer. You go see a doctor because of a pain. Then you get worse and worse... because it's cancer. People die of cancer all the time.

Should we blame every single cancer death in the country, on bad doctors and get rid of them?

Well obviously it's the doctors fault, because he didn't fix anything.

Obama introduced cancer into the country. Before Obama, racial tensions and national unity was very high. No riots. No lootings. Murder the lowest in decades.

After Obama, cancer of the country is growing. What is Trump going to do? The only thing you can do to end violence, is have more police. Trump supports the police, but the local mayors and governors do not.

The only thing Trump could do, is activate the military, and roll troops into cities, and establish marshal law.

If he did that, you would cry he was a dictator.... which would be accurate.

So what do you expect him to do?

Again... facts over feelings. You have no actual support for your position, and mine is based on law and truth.

You haven't provided a single fact in any of your posts. You have posted Trump's lies, distortions, and flat out fantasies to defend your choice of an amoral, racist, criminal for President. Trump was given a stable, vibrant country which had reclaimed it's role as the World's Leading Democracy, after the clusterfuck of W's lies, his wars, and his economic calamaty.

After 8 years of peace, stability and growth, three years later another Republican President has destroyed the working class yet again.

You really do live in a fantasy world.........obama let isis make an entire new country in Iraq, and gave 1.5 billion dollars in cash to iran so they could fund the murder of American soldiers and civilians around the world.....putin was invading countries and obama did nothing to stop him.....and China has been buying the democrat party for the last 40 years........

Trump kick started the stagnant, weak obama economy and had unemployment down to historic levels for everyone, but especially for women and minorities...then the democrat party ally, China, unleashed the Chinese flu....and Trump kept us safe and prepared....while democrat party governors killed seniors citizens in their states.......

The governors had everything they needed because Trump got them the hospitals and ventilators that they needed...

Obama could read words that other people wrote for him, better than President Trump.
He had a good cadence and rhythm, as long as one didn't pay attention to the actual words.

 

[Kilroy2]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

 

[Mike473]

Trump will win pretty easily. The Dems have moved way too far to the left policy wise and they nominated a guy in serious decline.

 

[Fiero425]

And you can rest assured it ain't just Florida.
View attachment 369505

The Florida PBA makes its first endorsement in eight years; PBA President John Kazanjian explains ahead of his meeting with the president.

Let's see.... people that actively support criminals, prevent cops from defending themselves, put them in prison if they do defend themselves, and otherwise want to defund the police and support total anarchy and a break down of all society......

Or Trump.

The police Unions are not supporting Trump... they are voting against the insanity and evil of the Democrats.... and RIGHTLY SO.

We have trump and riots and chaos. If he is capable of fixing our problems we wouldn’t have them.

You missed it. The Democrats have aligned themselves with destroying the police and promoting violence.

It doesn't matter who is the alternative is. I don't know what you do for a living, but if you were an accountant, and the Democraps openly endorsed eliminating accountants... You would vote against the Democrats.

Yeah, all of us would.

The Democraps have made themselves disgusting to a large portion of society. You are pushing people into voting for Trump, with every action at this point.

I actually think there is a very real possibility of a land slide victory for Trump in November. Could wrong! I've been wrong most of my entire life, so this wouldn't be a shocker.

But you are right about one thing. Trump can't fix the violence and riots and looting, and chaos.

You know who can? The Democrap mayors and governors. They can support their police, activate the national guard, and end the violence.

They are choosing to do the reverse. That makes them horrible evil people. That going to reflect itself in the election I wager.

Huge debt, bailouts, recession, riots, closings... that is trump. Failure.

You caused that. You caused all of that. And Obama did all of those things. Obama caused closings, riots, the recession itself was caused by actions Obama supported. We know that for a fact. We have his name on a court action that forced Citigroup to make bad loans. Bailouts Obama supported. Seriously, how does GMAC end up being declared a "bank" can get TARP money? And huge debts? Obama doubled the national debt in his first 4 years.

There is nothing that Trump has done, that Obama didn't do. That makes you a hypocrite.

And still nothing you said is even an argument in this discussion. We're talking about the Police Union supporting Trump over the democraps. Which is completely logical, and you know it. You know that if you were an officer, you would be supporting Trump right now, as all officers, including all the black officers, are supporting Trump.

You can't even attempt an argument why they shouldn't, and you know it.

4 years ago things were so much better. The ruin came with trump.

So since you simply repeated your previous unsupported statements.... I'll repeat my entirely supported statements.

View attachment 369627

This was under Obama. Riots, looting, social brake down, racial tension....

View attachment 369628

Mass protests, fires, violence in the streets, police officers being killed.

View attachment 369629

Dramatic increase in murders and chaos as police pulled back.

All happened under Obama. The nation was tearing itself apart, before Trump even announced plans to run for office.

Facts over feelings, sir. Facts 'trump' your opinion. (pun intended).

And everything is worse with trump. Clearly he can’t fix anything.

Trump didn't do. Obama started this path. How would Trump fix it?

This is like cancer. You go see a doctor because of a pain. Then you get worse and worse... because it's cancer. People die of cancer all the time.

Should we blame every single cancer death in the country, on bad doctors and get rid of them?

Well obviously it's the doctors fault, because he didn't fix anything.

Obama introduced cancer into the country. Before Obama, racial tensions and national unity was very high. No riots. No lootings. Murder the lowest in decades.

After Obama, cancer of the country is growing. What is Trump going to do? The only thing you can do to end violence, is have more police. Trump supports the police, but the local mayors and governors do not.

The only thing Trump could do, is activate the military, and roll troops into cities, and establish marshal law.

If he did that, you would cry he was a dictator.... which would be accurate.

So what do you expect him to do?

Again... facts over feelings. You have no actual support for your position, and mine is based on law and truth.

You haven't provided a single fact in any of your posts. You have posted Trump's lies, distortions, and flat out fantasies to defend your choice of an amoral, racist, criminal for President. Trump was given a stable, vibrant country which had reclaimed it's role as the World's Leading Democracy, after the clusterfuck of W's lies, his wars, and his economic calamaty.

After 8 years of peace, stability and growth, three years later another Republican President has destroyed the working class yet again.

You really do live in a fantasy world.........obama let isis make an entire new country in Iraq, and gave 1.5 billion dollars in cash to iran so they could fund the murder of American soldiers and civilians around the world.....putin was invading countries and obama did nothing to stop him.....and China has been buying the democrat party for the last 40 years........

Trump kick started the stagnant, weak obama economy and had unemployment down to historic levels for everyone, but especially for women and minorities...then the democrat party ally, China, unleashed the Chinese flu....and Trump kept us safe and prepared....while democrat party governors killed seniors citizens in their states.......

The governors had everything they needed because Trump got them the hospitals and ventilators that they needed...

Obama was a disaster. Thomas Sowell said he was one of the few people that Obama didn't disappoint.

If Obama's a disaster, what does that make Frump? Due to his incompetence, he's turned record continuous growth into a record contraction! He's still touting employment #'s, forgetting there's been record unemployment going on! According to him we're on top of this pandemic and the vaccine is "right around the corner!" Who's allowing him out without a leash? He's sick!

 

[the other mike]

If Obama's a disaster, what does that make Frump? Due to his incompetence, he's turned record continuous growth into a record contraction! He's still touting employment #'s, forgetting there's been record unemployment going on! According to him we're on top of this pandemic and the vaccine is "right around the corner!" Who's allowing him out without a leash? He's sick!

Selective quoting please.
Quoting the same original post repeatedly stretches the quote space, in case you haven't noticed. Thank you.

 

[Fiero425]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Consider who TF they are? There's nothing about FLA to hang their hat on when it comes to governess, justice, or their civilian police force! They're a joke and deserve whatever becomes of them!

 

[kyzr]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

 

[Dragonlady]

4 years ago things were so much better.

For China, Hunter Biden, ISIS, and dirty cops like Comey and Brennan.

China will probably become the biggest economy thanks to trumps incompetence.

How will we know when they lie about every internal thing?....your hero communist China is in for a rough road...they have every nation in the free world ready to go to war with them....

I don’t like China. I bet they like trump though. He has brought us to ruin.

BS you love commies and totalitarians....we can read it in your posts...

Haha then you are dumber than I thought. You are the one supporting trump and all the huge socialist bailouts required to support his failed policy.

What failed policy?...what would you have done with covid that is different from what Trump has done....we only have 150,000 dead from it and the deaths are slowing to a crawl...remember the flu of 2018 which we had a vaccine for killed 90,000 Americans if Cuomo and 4 other blue states had followed Trump covid policy thousands would still be alive today...they are guilty of manslaughter at least if not murder....the market has regained its former self and jobs are available...Trump has managed to keep America afloat while battling the covid virus and TDS.....I think he is doing an awesome job....

Only? We are the world leader in Covid death. Trump is the leader in executive orders, deficits, bailouts.... and you still think you aren’t a socialist? That is impressively stupid. Bravo!

Again, what would you expect Trump to do?

Trump didn't close down the economy. The states did. That caused the economy to crash. Trump had nothing to do with it.

Trump can't declare national marshal law in every state, and ban people leaving their homes.

You people are such hypocritical bigots. You cry Trump is a dictator, and then spin around and demand he act like a dictator.

Which is it? Does Trump have the power to confine the entire nation to their homes, to fight Covid? Or is Trump not a dictator, and does not have that power? Which is it?

You tell me. Idiots.

Yes trump didn’t lead and now we have ruin. Most Covid deaths, recession, huge deficits, bailouts, closings.... time for change.

Again, what would you have him do? Empty words and phrases, with zero factual basis, are not an argument, unless you are lemming.

If you are mindless lemming, and you just believe that someone saying "everything is good" while everything is not......

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Tell me.... did your Obama have "leadership"? Why didn't it result in actual improvements?

Because Donald J. Trump cancelled all the Limited Consent Decrees which were retraining and reforming the police, as soon as he was elected - when Sessions was AG.

Jeff Sessions Limited Consent Decrees. What About the Police Departments Already Under Reform? (Published 2018)

In a last-minute act, Mr. Sessions limited the Justice Department’s ability to oversee local police reforms. The move raises questions about what this hands-off approach means for existing agreements.

www.nytimes.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/the-trump-administration-abandoned-obama-era-police-reform-efforts-now-critics-want-them-restored/2020/06/01/4615bc1c-a413-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-supreme-court-qualified-immunity-1.5612186

As always, Trump brought all of this on himself, by doing nothing, and undoing the work that was already being done.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dems screwed the pooch on this. Did you know the Dem Portland mayor attended a 'peaceful' protest...wait for it...accompanied by 5 armed taxpayer funded security guards. He got booed by the protestors then Federal agents tear gassed him, then he ran away with his security guards in tow.

 

[BigDave]

 

[Dragonlady]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

Add in the taxpayers who are done footing the bill for police violence.

Millions in lawsuit settlements are another hidden cost of police misconduct, legal experts say

Over $300 million was spent in fiscal year 2019 for judgments in three U.S. cities.

abcnews.go.com

Cost of Police-Misconduct Cases Soars in Big U.S. Cities

The cost of resolving police-misconduct cases has surged for big U.S. cities, with the 10 cities with the largest departments paying out $248.7 million last year.

www.wsj.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/10/01/u-s-cities-pay-out-millions-to-settle-police-lawsuits/

 

[Kilroy2]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

already republican and Trump want the state last cycle. Yet it does not mean others will follow.

 

[kyzr]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

Add in the taxpayers who are done footing the bill for police violence.

The police didn't cause any damage. So we taxpayers will send the rioters and democrats the bill in November for the damage they caused.

 

[Dragonlady]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

Add in the taxpayers who are done footing the bill for police violence.

The police didn't cause any damage. So we taxpayers will send the rioters and democrats the bill in November for the damage they caused.

If the police don't cause any damage, why are cities paying out so much in "damages"?

Millions in lawsuit settlements are another hidden cost of police misconduct, legal experts say

Over $300 million was spent in fiscal year 2019 for judgments in three U.S. cities.

abcnews.go.com

Cost of Police-Misconduct Cases Soars in Big U.S. Cities

The cost of resolving police-misconduct cases has surged for big U.S. cities, with the 10 cities with the largest departments paying out $248.7 million last year.

www.wsj.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/10/01/u-s-cities-pay-out-millions-to-settle-police-lawsuits/

Maybe you should be billing the police unions for all of this - including the costs of the riots, when they continued to protect abusive officers. This is in addition to the costs of locking up more citizens than any nation in the world - both the costs of the criminal justice system and the prison costs.

40 years after Ronald Reagan declared his War on Drugs, the black and brown communities are over policed, over charged, and far too many black and brown people are in jail for minor drug offences, because of minimun sentencing. White kids get let off with a warning. Minorities go to jail.

 

[kyzr]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

Add in the taxpayers who are done footing the bill for police violence.

The police didn't cause any damage. So we taxpayers will send the rioters and democrats the bill in November for the damage they caused.

If the police don't cause any damage, why are cities paying out so much in "damages"?

Maybe you should be billing the police unions for all of this - including the costs of the riots, when they continued to protect abusive officers. This is in addition to the costs of locking up more citizens than any nation in the world - both the costs of the criminal justice system and the prison costs.

40 years after Ronald Reagan declared his War on Drugs, the black and brown communities are over policed, over charged, and far too many black and brown people are in jail for minor drug offences, because of minimun sentencing. White kids get let off with a warning. Minorities go to jail.

No one is "paying out" damages, yet. Its easy to sue and tough to collect. (those police misconduct "damages" are tiny compared to the damage caused by rioters)
Do cities have spare cash to pay for damages? No.
Its simpler and cheaper to keep appealing the rulings and then not pay.
Maybe you can convince the cities to "defund the police" to pay damages to rioters? That will shrink the tax bases.
Trump signed the prison reform bill that undid the harm from Biden's prior racist crime bills.

Biden vs. Trump: Who’s the Actual Criminal Justice Reformer?

Suddenly, both the Republican and Democrat promise big changes. We matched their policies head-to-head, and asked experts for a reality check.

www.politico.com

 

[miketx]

Doesn’t make them look good, he represents lies and corruption.

Crazy Joe represents senility, Socialism, and domestic terrorism.

4 years ago was a whole lot better than this garbage.

Crazy Joe is worse than Hitlery?

Wow!

4 years ago Joe was VP and things were way better. You clowns can keep lying, but nobody is buying it. Country is in ruins .

Thanks to you chinese scum.

 

[Dragonlady]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

Add in the taxpayers who are done footing the bill for police violence.

The police didn't cause any damage. So we taxpayers will send the rioters and democrats the bill in November for the damage they caused.

If the police don't cause any damage, why are cities paying out so much in "damages"?

Maybe you should be billing the police unions for all of this - including the costs of the riots, when they continued to protect abusive officers. This is in addition to the costs of locking up more citizens than any nation in the world - both the costs of the criminal justice system and the prison costs.

40 years after Ronald Reagan declared his War on Drugs, the black and brown communities are over policed, over charged, and far too many black and brown people are in jail for minor drug offences, because of minimun sentencing. White kids get let off with a warning. Minorities go to jail.

No one is "paying out" damages, yet. Its easy to sue and tough to collect.
Do cities have spare cash to pay for damages? No.
Its simpler and cheaper to keep appealing the rulings and then not pay.
Maybe you can convince the cities to "defund the police" to pay damages to rioters? That will shrink the tax bases.
Trump signed the prison reform bill that undid the harm from Biden's prior racist crime bills.

Biden vs. Trump: Who’s the Actual Criminal Justice Reformer?

Suddenly, both the Republican and Democrat promise big changes. We matched their policies head-to-head, and asked experts for a reality check.

www.politico.com

The money has been paid out and billed to taxpayers already - those are just the amounts paid out. Nothing to do with "pending payments' at all. Mostly, the cities settle, because if the cases go to court, the juries will pay out much, much larger settlements.

Sheriff Joe Arpiao cost the taxpayers of Maricopa County more than $20 million in court cases and settlements, which is why he was turfed out of office. His job was to enforce state and county laws, not lock up and abuse US citizens who don't care proof of citizenship around with them.

80% of Americans support Black Lives Matter. Americans are tired of living in a police state. Building and maintaining a police state which locks up minorities at disproportionate numbers, and kills more of its citizens than any first world police force. It's really expensive, and they're not getting good value for their money.

Policing is the only municipal budget that hasn't been cut to the bone, and the ONLY municipal budget that has been going up. School budgets have been cut. Recreational programs have been cut. All manner of social services and urban amenities have been eliminated in poor and low income neighbourhoods.

Policing in America started as "slave patrols" so the long sad history of white men just stopping black men alone in the road has been going on for so long that the police have forgotten what their jobs are supposed to be. None of my white friends have ever been stopped driving in black neighbourhoods and asked what they were doing there.

While Republicans have been driven into a frenzy of horror of graffitti on public buildings, the wealthy, stores being looted or burned, the corporations have been looting the public treasury and carrying off the billions of the money Congress set aside to save small businesses in the USA. Over 150,000 small businesses have closed, permanently. It is these businesses that are most likely to pay a fairer wage since small business owners know all too well, how their workers are faring versus corporate CEO's for whom front line workers are merely numbers.

Conservatives on this board haven't posted one word on this board about all of the real looting that's going or in the fraud and lack of oversight of the federal bailout programs. Right at the beginning of the pandemic, Trump said that he viewed the bailout money as an opportunity for corporations to stock upon free capital, whether they needed it or not. Free money doesn't come along every day. And that's what they did.

Never mind that the money was intended to go to small businesses who were forced to shut down, or deeply curtail their operations. The House and the Senate set up the programs with proper oversight, and Trump fired the guy they hired to do the job, and refused to even provide lists of who got what money, saying it would violate "privacy laws".

If you want taxpayer money, the taxpayers have a right to know who their money went to. At the very least.

 

[miketx]

One police union of 30,000 members voted to support Trump in Florida.

good to know but is it enough?

Add in the police spouses and business owners and their spouses, and soccer moms and....

Add in the taxpayers who are done footing the bill for police violence.

The police didn't cause any damage. So we taxpayers will send the rioters and democrats the bill in November for the damage they caused.

If the police don't cause any damage, why are cities paying out so much in "damages"?

Maybe you should be billing the police unions for all of this - including the costs of the riots, when they continued to protect abusive officers. This is in addition to the costs of locking up more citizens than any nation in the world - both the costs of the criminal justice system and the prison costs.

40 years after Ronald Reagan declared his War on Drugs, the black and brown communities are over policed, over charged, and far too many black and brown people are in jail for minor drug offences, because of minimun sentencing. White kids get let off with a warning. Minorities go to jail.

No one is "paying out" damages, yet. Its easy to sue and tough to collect.
Do cities have spare cash to pay for damages? No.
Its simpler and cheaper to keep appealing the rulings and then not pay.
Maybe you can convince the cities to "defund the police" to pay damages to rioters? That will shrink the tax bases.
Trump signed the prison reform bill that undid the harm from Biden's prior racist crime bills.

Biden vs. Trump: Who’s the Actual Criminal Justice Reformer?

Suddenly, both the Republican and Democrat promise big changes. We matched their policies head-to-head, and asked experts for a reality check.

www.politico.com

The money has been paid out and billed to taxpayers already - those are just the amounts paid out. Nothing to do with "pending payments' at all. Mostly, the cities settle, because if the cases go to court, the juries will pay out much, much larger settlements.

Sheriff Joe Arpiao cost the taxpayers of Maricopa County more than $20 million in court cases and settlements, which is why he was turfed out of office. His job was to enforce state and county laws, not lock up and abuse US citizens who don't care proof of citizenship around with them.

80% of Americans support Black Lives Matter. Americans are tired of living in a police state. Building and maintaining a police state which locks up minorities at disproportionate numbers, and kills more of its citizens than any first world police force. It's really expensive, and they're not getting good value for their money.

Policing is the only municipal budget that hasn't been cut to the bone, and the ONLY municipal budget that has been going up. School budgets have been cut. Recreational programs have been cut. All manner of social services and urban amenities have been eliminated in poor and low income neighbourhoods.

Policing in America started as "slave patrols" so the long sad history of white men just stopping black men alone in the road has been going on for so long that the police have forgotten what their jobs are supposed to be. None of my white friends have ever been stopped driving in black neighbourhoods and asked what they were doing there.

While Republicans have been driven into a frenzy of horror of graffitti on public buildings, the wealthy, stores being looted or burned, the corporations have been looting the public treasury and carrying off the billions of the money Congress set aside to save small businesses in the USA. Over 150,000 small businesses have closed, permanently. It is these businesses that are most likely to pay a fairer wage since small business owners know all too well, how their workers are faring versus corporate CEO's for whom front line workers are merely numbers.

Conservatives on this board haven't posted one word on this board about all of the real looting that's going or in the fraud and lack of oversight of the federal bailout programs. Right at the beginning of the pandemic, Trump said that he viewed the bailout money as an opportunity for corporations to stock upon free capital, whether they needed it or not. Free money doesn't come along every day. And that's what they did.

Never mind that the money was intended to go to small businesses who were forced to shut down, or deeply curtail their operations. The House and the Senate set up the programs with proper oversight, and Trump fired the guy they hired to do the job, and refused to even provide lists of who got what money, saying it would violate "privacy laws".

If you want taxpayer money, the taxpayers have a right to know who their money went to. At the very least.



, or the number of right wing agitators who have been arrested for shootings, lootings and arson, all across the nation.

China girl speak out 5 sides of mouth....