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Let the poor unskilled immigrant in and get the citizenship. He is the new Democratic voting base. Greedy corporations are happy too.
U.S. population growth since 1990: +67 million people
France population: 66 million (they are one of the few european countries that favors jus soli over jus sanguinis)
projected population growth for the next 40 years: +93 million
Howard Steven Friedman: 10 Countries With the Largest Projected Population Growth: American Exceptionalism
Wow, you really hate immigrants, don't you. Or maybe it just the non-white ones you hate.
Fact is, the Republicans have put the interests of the wealthy above the interests of working people, and THAT'S why they keep losing elections. If they didn't fool stupid white people into voting against their own economic interests, we'd be a one party state.
Does the moderate secular centre-right in France hate minorities, non-whites and non-christians?? Look at the last election figures and find out how low income people overwhelmingly voted for Hollande and 93% of french muslisms voted socialist too. It's a global trend. Only 10-15% of german turks vote for Merkel's party. Does it sound familiar??
Au contraire, France is pretty nice.
It may be pretty nice, but it's manufacturing is still pretty crappy. I think that I am talking about the auto sector. Yeah, I'm talking about the auto sector, the only one I care about.
Yes, their cars suck.
Au contraire, France is pretty nice.
It may be pretty nice, but it's manufacturing is still pretty crappy. I think that I am talking about the auto sector. Yeah, I'm talking about the auto sector, the only one I care about.
Yes, their cars suck.
France is in a shithole and will continue to be an economic shithole unless it gives more freedom to the manufacturers.
Au contraire, France is pretty nice.
It may be pretty nice, but it's manufacturing is still pretty crappy. I think that I am talking about the auto sector. Yeah, I'm talking about the auto sector, the only one I care about.
It's the topic of this thread.
And you have yet to justify why anyone with an income should be exempt from income taxes.
Because I don't think people should starve to pay for government?
I do think they don't really need another dressage horsie, though.
Here's the real problem, though, in your quest to make the rich richer and teh poor poorer, the amount of people exempted from income tax has grown. This is NOT a good thing by any stretch of the imagination...
It creates exactly the kind of situation you abhor.
That is what a primitive thinker like you would believe, yes.
I would consider religion to be the primitive concept while aetheism is personal.
Religion began as superstition and a way to explain what primitive man did not understand. I have evolved beyond that, obviously some people have not.
Silly comment without any substantiated points.
Define "totalitarian" and apply it to the USA today.
Define "welfare state" and apply it to the USA today.
And you accept that you want a nation without civil liberties for women and minorities instead of a national victory over a southern confederacy of anti-Americans.
If you mean we would dismantle the current totalitarian welfare state empire, right. It would mean the death of that, just as the Civil War meant the death of the United States as it was intended to be by the Founding Fathers, a voluntary union of sovereign states.
Slavery would have ended quickly without bloodshed if the Confederate states had been allowed to go their own way. That's what happened in every other country on the globe. Brazil was the last country to abolish slaver in 1886. If the slave states were no longer part of the United States, then the Northern states would no longer have been obligated to enforce the Fugitive Slave act, and slavery would have thereby ended very quickly.
Furthermore, we probably wouldn't have entered WW I, which means WW II would never have happened. Germany and England would have come to a negotiated settlement rather than having the atrocious Versailles treaty enforced on the Germans, which lead directly to WW II.
Instead we had 800,000 dead and an entire region of the United States was economically and socially devastated for a century.
Yeah, the Civil War sure was a good deal for everyone!
The lowest and dumbest animal in the forest doesn't believe in a God. You are a primate. Hardly evolved, and barely cognizant of your own existence.
The rich are paying their fair share and it is not enough to fund the greed of people who want more.
We can't have that, can we?
35% is the lowest the rich have paid in our history, and our economy has worked better when they pay more.
The top Rate was 93% in the 1950's.. and that was a golden age of America.
Sorry, just because you are scared of death and need to tell yourself a fairy story about a nice man who will make you happy for all eternity, doesn't not make you more evolved than a monkey.
You are just putting more thought into your death fears...
'Progressive' taxation is a violation of equal protection of ones property.
We either have a national conversation on it, or a civil war.
Again... "But...but...but... some liberals are rich."
Yes. Yes, they are, and they should pay their fair share, too.
That didn't answer my question of who decides what is "their fair share and how much would that fair share be?"
I think we elect something called a "Congress" to do that. They've just found it easier to borrow than make decisions.
Incidently, I think that we aren't going to get to fiscal sanity without both budget cuts AND tax increases...
But if it comes to a choice between Mitt Romney not being able to spend $77K on a Dancing Horse and Grandma having to eat dog food, I think the only "Christian" thing to do is make sure Granny isn't eating the dog food.
Since you like to talk about the bible so much, let's not forget, your Naked Dude on a Stick also said this...
That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. -- Matthew 19:23-24,
By taxing the millionaire, the French government only expected 100 to 300 million euros a year
Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault quickly pledged that the government would reintroduce a revised version of the tax for next year to address the criticisms of the Constitutional Council, which ruled that the measure did not tax affected households equally.
People in the 1950s were still not as affluent as today in the middle class.
Middle class people in the 1950s weren't flying off to Hawaii for family vacations. They "might" own 1 car and 1 TV. A TV in someone's house back then was the thing for the neighborhood. Most people listened to radio as much as kooks like you surf the internet using a computer.
People didn't spend $100 for dinner, more like $2 maybe.
Idiots like you trying to compare a poorer society where there was a huge gap between rich flying off to Paris while the average American took a train or bus to visit relatives once every 3 years.
It is so rough for people these days with a smartphone, endless places to eat, $150 one way flight deals to Vegas, etc. The uber rich should give all their money to those poor people, eh dumbfuck?
Shitbag....our society is richer today than it was when assholes like you were stealing from the rich.
Most people back in the 30s lived on farms or crammed into big city apartments, while the rich lived on huge estates. They didn't have luxury items like cars, HDTVs, PS3s, vacations to Florida....they were really poor compared to today's so-called poor.
Now that most Americans are living better lifestyles due to more personal wealth, they need to pay something and the rich should not be paying over 50% of their wealth to support other people like you. 93% tax rate???? You're a fucking communist.
Why do you go back to the 1930's?
By the 1950's, the middle class, due to unionization and strong activist government, were actually living a better lifestyle than we do today. They just had a few less technological goodies. They had cars, they had TV's (albeit not as advanced as we have today) and they took vacations to Florida.
But since 1980, when that senile old actor decided to do whatever the rich told him to do, the middle class in America has been in sharp decline, save a breif period in the 1990's under Clinton...
EdwardB and GoneBezerk don't think competently is the issue, Toro.
GB is right. It's JoeAmpad who is saying we were better off 60 years ago. That's retarded.
'Progressive' taxation is a violation of equal protection of ones property.
We either have a national conversation on it, or a civil war.
We just had a conversation on it. It was the election. Conservatives lost.
