Gary Johnson would not close Guantanamo Bay

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If they're guilty of a crime then you have to put them on trial, and if not then you have to let them go. It's unconstitutional to hold people in prison indefinitely. Not to mention the torture going on.

what torture?

Is that a serious question?

 

[The Infidel]

Social conservatives can't stand him because he doesn't want to legislate what you can do in your own home, what plants you can grow on your property, be the worlds hall monitor, etc.


Fiscal conservatives he's the only real choice, as he's the only person in government who isn't a hardcore far left fiscal liberal.

Dr Drekk delivers! Ill-informed, illogical and wrong. I salute your stupidity, sir!

The only way to think the Republican party is the least bit conservative is if you weren't in the United States from 2001-2007 and have zero access to the budgets from that time period.

So in other words if you're a foreigner who can't read, hear or use sign language, that's about the only way you could think the Republican party is conservative.

Coming from a FORMER REPUBIC, I say you are right.... the Repubes are WAY too liberal.
Thats why I dont consider myself a Republican.
The same CANT be said for the Dems... they dont want to admit their political party has been highjacked by Socialists who want to destroy America as we once knew it. So they will (hopefully) be going the way of the dinosoar.

 

[The Infidel]

If they're guilty of a crime then you have to put them on trial, and if not then you have to let them go. It's unconstitutional to hold people in prison indefinitely. Not to mention the torture going on.

what torture?

Is that a serious question?

Yes.... stop wasting my time and answer it please!

 

[Dr.Drock]

Dr Drekk delivers! Ill-informed, illogical and wrong. I salute your stupidity, sir!

The only way to think the Republican party is the least bit conservative is if you weren't in the United States from 2001-2007 and have zero access to the budgets from that time period.

So in other words if you're a foreigner who can't read, hear or use sign language, that's about the only way you could think the Republican party is conservative.

Coming from a FORMER REPUBIC, I say you are right.... the Repubes are WAY too liberal.
Thats why I dont consider myself a Republican.
The same CANT be said for the Dems... they dont want to admit their political party has been highjacked by Socialists who want to destroy America as we once knew it. So they will (hopefully) be going the way of the dinosoar.

Yes from our conversations I would call you a small government fiscal conservative, and I'd call Rabbi a big government fiscally liberal republican.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

what torture?

Is that a serious question?

Yes.... stop wasting my time and answer it please!

If anyone's wasting time it's you by playing as if you don't know what I'm referring to. We've all heard about the water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc... etc... that went on at Gitmo.

 

[The Infidel]

The only way to think the Republican party is the least bit conservative is if you weren't in the United States from 2001-2007 and have zero access to the budgets from that time period.

So in other words if you're a foreigner who can't read, hear or use sign language, that's about the only way you could think the Republican party is conservative.

Coming from a FORMER REPUBIC, I say you are right.... the Repubes are WAY too liberal.
Thats why I dont consider myself a Republican.
The same CANT be said for the Dems... they dont want to admit their political party has been highjacked by Socialists who want to destroy America as we once knew it. So they will (hopefully) be going the way of the dinosoar.

Yes from our conversations I would call you a small government fiscal conservative, and I'd call Rabbi a big government fiscally liberal republican.

Why thank you very much....

 

[The Infidel]

Is that a serious question?

Yes.... stop wasting my time and answer it please!

If anyone's wasting time it's you by playing as if you don't know what I'm referring to. We've all heard about the water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc... etc... that went on at Gitmo.

All of the above IS NOT TORTURE!

List actual torture or STFU please.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Yes.... stop wasting my time and answer it please!

If anyone's wasting time it's you by playing as if you don't know what I'm referring to. We've all heard about the water boarding, sleep deprivation, etc... etc... that went on at Gitmo.

All of the above IS NOT TORTURE!

List actual torture or STFU please.

Oh, well good thing you were here to correct me with such an eloquent and in-depth argument.

 

[The Infidel]

If we want to be truthful about it... I can always go get ya some VERY graphic,actual torture pics if you need it, but I prefer to keep it all clean here for now... ok?

 

[The Infidel]

Oh, well good thing you were here to correct me with such an eloquent and in-depth argument.

See previous post

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If we want to be truthful about it... I can always go get ya some VERY graphic,actual torture pics if you need it, but I prefer to keep it all clean here for now... ok?

I'm not really into torture porn, so you can go ahead and keep it to yourself.

 

[The Rabbi]

If they're guilty of a crime then you have to put them on trial, and if not then you have to let them go. It's unconstitutional to hold people in prison indefinitely. Not to mention the torture going on.

Unless you want to consider state of the art medical treatment, well balanced meals and exercise facilities torture I don't think you can make any case for torture.

What you are describing is what we do with criminals. The people at Gitmo are not criminals in that sense. They are POWs. We can keep them as long as we want.

And where does it say that in the Constitution?

Article I Section 8.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Oh, well good thing you were here to correct me with such an eloquent and in-depth argument.

See previous post

Yeah, that was convincing.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Unless you want to consider state of the art medical treatment, well balanced meals and exercise facilities torture I don't think you can make any case for torture.

What you are describing is what we do with criminals. The people at Gitmo are not criminals in that sense. They are POWs. We can keep them as long as we want.

And where does it say that in the Constitution?

Article I Section 8.

Could you quote the relevant wording for me? I seem to be having trouble finding it.

 

[jillian]

Rather disappointing. Looks like Ron Paul will be the only candidate worth voting for again.

well, not that I'd ever vote for Gary Johnson, if i were you, i'd ask myself what issues are most important, given that it looks like no one who has a shot to win in 2012 will close Gitmo.

You know my feelings about Ron Paul. His foreign policy is naive

 

[The Infidel]

If we want to be truthful about it... I can always go get ya some VERY graphic,actual torture pics if you need it, but I prefer to keep it all clean here for now... ok?

I'm not really into torture porn, so you can go ahead and keep it to yourself.

Maybe you should try reading up on, and looking at some actual torture before you go and acuse our soldiers of it.
Im sure they would take exception to you acusing them of war crimes.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Rather disappointing. Looks like Ron Paul will be the only candidate worth voting for again.

well, not that I'd ever vote for Gary Johnson, if i were you, i'd ask myself what issues are most important, given that it looks like no one who has a shot to win in 2012 will close Gitmo.

You know my feelings about Ron Paul. His foreign policy is naive

And you know that viability won't affect who I vote for. Supporting indefinite detention and torture is a disqualifier in a candidate for me, regardless of their chances.

 

[StevenC]

If they're guilty of a crime then you have to put them on trial, and if not then you have to let them go. It's unconstitutional to hold people in prison indefinitely. Not to mention the torture going on.

Unless you want to consider state of the art medical treatment, well balanced meals and exercise facilities torture I don't think you can make any case for torture.

What you are describing is what we do with criminals. The people at Gitmo are not criminals in that sense. They are POWs. We can keep them as long as we want.

And where does it say that in the Constitution?

So you are for doing away with SS and Medicare, the EPA, Education Dept, etc. too?

 

[Claudette]

Unless you want to consider state of the art medical treatment, well balanced meals and exercise facilities torture I don't think you can make any case for torture.

What you are describing is what we do with criminals. The people at Gitmo are not criminals in that sense. They are POWs. We can keep them as long as we want.

And where does it say that in the Constitution?

Article I Section 8.

LMAO The GW clause. Good one Rabs.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If we want to be truthful about it... I can always go get ya some VERY graphic,actual torture pics if you need it, but I prefer to keep it all clean here for now... ok?

I'm not really into torture porn, so you can go ahead and keep it to yourself.

Maybe you should try reading up on, and looking at some actual torture before you go and acuse our soldiers of it.
Im sure they would take exception to you acusing them of war crimes.

Well criminals usually do take exception to being charged with crimes, but that shouldn't stop us from speaking the truth. I suggest you allow somebody to water board you, or force you to stay awake for days at a time before you say these tactics aren't torture.