Gaza army

[Billo_Really]

Israel controls the area as a buffer zone between themselves and the barbarians.

Israel has no right controlling anything on the Palestinian side of the fence.

 

[Hollie]

Israel controls the area as a buffer zone between themselves and the barbarians.

Israel has no right controlling anything on the Palestinian side of the fence.

Sure they do. Islamic terrorism is controlled by force, not with kafir welfare dollars.

 

[Billo_Really]

You mean Hamas or Fatah?
Hamas official we were behind the kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers World news The Guardian

You're going to believe a disgruntled, ex-Hamas official?

This story has already been debunked many times over.

The 3 teens were killed by the Mossad.

 

[Billo_Really]

You're still comatose, shortstop. You're spending way too much time agonizing over the Flotilla Escapades

You can't answer a direct question, can ya, whore?

 

[Hollie]

You're still comatose, shortstop. You're spending way too much time agonizing over the Flotilla Escapades

You can't answer a direct question, can ya, whore?

That's the angry little short man we all know and ridicule.

 

[Billo_Really]

Sure they do. Islamic terrorism is controlled by force, not with kafir welfare dollars.

If you think you have a right to do whatever you please on someone else's property, then why don't you come over to my house and try to pull that shit on me? Come on over and try to set up a "buffer zone" in my front yard and see what happens next. I'll personally show you how wrong that is.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Jewish acquired the territory most legally.

Indeed, Israel trying to back door borders on land that it has never legally acquired.

(PREVIOUS POSTING)

As stated previously in Posting #121:

(REFERENCES)

• Israel Declaration of Independence
• Israeli Declaration to Append the Application to the United Nations
• Application of Israel for admission to membership in the United Nations (A/818)
• Favorable Recommendation of the application of Israel for membership in the United Nations, by the UN Security Council
• 273 (III). Admission of Israel to membership in the United Nations
• Peace Treaty between The Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt and the Government of the State of Israel
• Treaty of Peace between the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and the State of Israel

(COMMENT)

I can demonstrate quite easily that Israel is a "state:"

• Established under its right to self-determination under the UN guidance proved in the Steps Preparatory to Independence found in General Assembly 181(II).
• Wherein the UN made an official and world-wide public press announcement that the GA/RES/181(II) was implemented.
• Where by the State of Israel made application for FULL membership to the UN.
• Where by the UN Security Council recommended the admission to the UN.
• Where by the General Assembly accepted the State of Israel as a FULL member.

(COMMENT)

There are a number of ways under international law, to acquire sovereignty, that we previously discussed in Posting #685, Thread "the-humanitarian-gaza-flotillas-saga":

1 Occupation
2 Annexation
3 Accretion
4 Cession
5 Prescription
​

SOURCES: (Oddly enough, the first two posted by Arab Nationals)

• Territorial Acquisition, Disputes, and International Law, By Surya Prakash Sharm, Chapter II Tradition Modalities of Acquisition (Page 36), The Acquisition of Territory under International Law
• Acquisition of Territorial Sovereignty, Posted 24th November 2012 by abdul qadir
• Sub-SOURCE: Acquisition of sovereignty From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Territorial transfers is a sub category of "Cession," as is self-determination. Transfer is not, by any means, the only way to acquire sovereign territory. In the case of Israel, the Jewish People used the means of self-determination; augmented by "Prescription" when the Arab League Forces attempted to invade and take by force the sovereign State of Israel. The Arab League Forces, lost ground to the Israeli defenders and the original territory allocated for the Jewish State expanded.

While there are many pro-Palestinians that, to this day think, the territory now under sovereign control of the Israelis was not lawfully acquired, that has never been successfully challenged.

An important ingredient of sovereignty is territoriality, the extension of actual physical control. Territoriality is a principle by which members of a community define themselves. The Israelis define themselves by the territory they manage to establish and hold control over. It specifies that their citizenship derives from their residence within borders they control without regard to the objection of adjacent Arab Countries that attempted to eject them as a means of external interference to the right of self-determination. It is a powerful principle, for it defines membership in a way that may not correspond with identity. The borders of a sovereign state may not at all circumscribe a “people” or a “nation,” and may in fact encompass several of these identities, as national self-determination and irredentist movements make evident. It is rather by simple virtue of their location within geographic borders that people belong to a state and fall under the authority of its ruler. It is within a geographic territory that modern sovereigns are supremely authoritative.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

That's the angry little short man we all know and ridicule.

Does Social Services know how much of a racist bitch you are?

And why can't you comment on who's running the checkpoints and roadblocks?

 

[Billo_Really]

There is no occupation.

Islamic terrorism can however, occasionally use the support of short- minded, short of stature types to excuse their terrorism.

When the shooting war starts, the terrorists and their cheerleader cowards flailing their Pom Poms suffer the inevitable smack down.

There's been an occupation for the last 47 years and nothing your racist, barren womb can say, will change that.

 

[Hollie]

Sure they do. Islamic terrorism is controlled by force, not with kafir welfare dollars.

If you think you have a right to do whatever you please on someone else's property, then why don't you come over to my house and try to pull that shit on me? Come on over and try to set up a "buffer zone" in my front yard and see what happens next. I'll personally show you how wrong that is.

A keyboard jihadi. Small of stature and short of credibility.

 

[Hollie]

That's the angry little short man we all know and ridicule.

Does Social Services know how much of a racist bitch you are?

And why can't you comment on who's running the checkpoints and roadblocks?

Are you still promoting "Palestinian" as a race?

Small thinking from angry, self-hating short boys.

 

[Billo_Really]

So, you don't consider continued launching of rockets at neighboring country a terrorist act or act of war?

How generous of you to support your Death Cult heroes.

They have a legal right to resist the occupation.

 

[Hollie]

There is no occupation.

Islamic terrorism can however, occasionally use the support of short- minded, short of stature types to excuse their terrorism.

When the shooting war starts, the terrorists and their cheerleader cowards flailing their Pom Poms suffer the inevitable smack down.

There's been an occupation for the last 47 years and nothing your racist, barren womb can say, will change that.

What occupation would that be?

 

[Billo_Really]

A keyboard jihadi. Small of stature and short of credibility.

You don't really set the bar that high, so I wouldn't be talking about someone else's credibility.

Why can't you comment on the 500 roadblocks and checkpoints in the West Bank?

 

[Hollie]

So, you don't consider continued launching of rockets at neighboring country a terrorist act or act of war?

How generous of you to support your Death Cult heroes.

They have a legal right to resist the occupation.

What occupation?

You keep coming up short with answers.

 

[Billo_Really]

What occupation would that be?

Go fuck yourself, you little troll.

The occupation is not a debatable issue.

 

[Hollie]

A keyboard jihadi. Small of stature and short of credibility.

You don't really set the bar that high, so I wouldn't be talking about someone else's credibility.

Why can't you comment on the 500 roadblocks and checkpoints in the West Bank?

We'll keep the bar low so you'll feel more comfortable about your limitations.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You have to go back to Posting #165 and read it. I even highlighted the applicable phrase.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Read it again!!!!

4. The situations referred to in the preceding paragraph include armed conflicts in which peoples are fighting against colonial domination and alien occupation and against racist régimes in the exercise of their right of self-determination, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations and the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.​

Thank you for proving my point.

(COMMENT)

It applies to an International Conflict --- and NOT a non-international conflict.

It counters your point.

Most Respectfully,
R

How so?

(COMMENT)

Protocol I deals with "International Conflicts" that include:

• colonial domination and
• alien occupation
• right of self-determination,

Protocol II deals with "Non-international Conflicts" that do not include these issues.

I have embedded the links (in blue) in that post. You may read it at your leisure.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

What occupation would that be?

Go fuck yourself, you little troll.

The occupation is not a debatable issue.

It's debatable. You're just on the short end of any ability to compose coherent sentences.

 

[Billo_Really]

Are you still promoting "Palestinian" as a race?

Small thinking from angry, self-hating short boys.

I have to admit, you bring down a thread better than most.

But you're a perfect example of a Zionist asshole.