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The data indicate otherwise. Have you considered an actual technical explanation as to why what you claim might be so? Compare the effects of changing loads on ICEs and electric motors. I think you will find that the physics gives very good reasons for the effects on mileage and range to be similar and no reason for things to be the way you suggest.Yeah... except there is overwhelming testimony out there of ACTUAL EV truck owners who say differently.
If you fill a gas tank of an ICE truck... and tow something, you are not going to run out of gas in 90 miles. Not going to happen.
Yet, there are literally 100s of EV owners loudly complaining about losing way more mileage that the industry says they will get.
This is just one video.
I could easily post up 50 and more just like it
Technical dats doesn't amount to jack shit when over and over and over and over - PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THESE TRUCK - are not getting this kind of mileage in the real world. I don't give a flying banana about "expert opinions" who are likely receiving funds from automakers funneled in some way to them - over overwhelming consumer reports flat out disputing that data.The data indicate otherwise. Have you considered an actual technical explanation as to why what you claim might be so? Compare the effects of changing loads on ICEs and electric motors. I think you will find that the physics gives very good reasons for the effects on mileage and range to be similar and no reason for things to be the way you suggest.
You have yet to make a comment on the effects of towed loads on ICE vehicles. Why is that?
Unless you are camping locally it isn't feasible.I wonder what their towing an RV mileage would be and how would you charge a vehicle when you are dry camping. How fast could it charge while traveling?
So the data agrees with the EV apologists but actual results of EV owners say otherwiseThe data indicate otherwise. Have you considered an actual technical explanation as to why what you claim might be so? Compare the effects of changing loads on ICEs and electric motors. I think you will find that the physics gives very good reasons for the effects on mileage and range to be similar and no reason for things to be the way you suggest.
You have yet to make a comment on the effects of towed loads on ICE vehicles. Why is that?
Physics says that is impossible.I simply think the numbers from Road & Track and Kelly Blue Book are exceedingly likely to be more accurate than a video from a single user who would not have anything like the expertise of those two organizations. Sorry you don't like the answer. The data show that percentage mileage lost from added load is roughly the same for ICEs and EVs.
Yeah... except there is overwhelming testimony out there of ACTUAL EV truck owners who say differently.
If you fill a gas tank of an ICE truck... and tow something, you are not going to run out of gas in 90 miles. Not going to happen.
Yet, there are literally 100s of EV owners loudly complaining about losing way more mileage that the industry says they will get.
This is just one video.
I could easily post up 50 and more just like it
Look up the definition of anecdotal.
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anecdotal
You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.
It's often much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum. Quantitative scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but our inclination is to believe that which is tangible to us, and/or the word of someone we trust over a more 'abstract' statistical reality.
Example: Jason said that that was all cool and everything, but his grandfather smoked, like, 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97 - so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.
Your logical fallacy is anecdotal
You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.yourlogicalfallacyis.com
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I simply think the numbers from Road & Track and Kelly Blue Book are exceedingly likely to be more accurate than a video from a single user who would not have anything like the expertise of those two organizations. Sorry you don't like the answer. The data show that percentage mileage lost from added load is roughly the same for ICEs and EVs.
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anecdotal
You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.
It's often much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum. Quantitative scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but our inclination is to believe that which is tangible to us, and/or the word of someone we trust over a more 'abstract' statistical reality.
Example: Jason said that that was all cool and everything, but his grandfather smoked, like, 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97 - so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.
Your logical fallacy is anecdotal
You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.yourlogicalfallacyis.com
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The data indicate otherwise. Have you considered an actual technical explanation as to why what you claim might be so? Compare the effects of changing loads on ICEs and electric motors. I think you will find that the physics gives very good reasons for the effects on mileage and range to be similar and no reason for things to be the way you suggest.
You have yet to make a comment on the effects of towed loads on ICE vehicles. Why is that?
There are also plenty of video and documented examples of ACTUAL owners who tell nightmare experiences of spending hours sitting in parking lots recharging instead of taking 5 minutes to fill up with gas.
ICE vehicles lose range as well. But the recharge time is minutes, instead of hours.
You haven't shown "Hundreds"!Look up the definition of anecdotal.
In the definition you will find the word - isolated - .
There are 100s of complaints by VEHICLE OWNERS stating they are not getting anywhere near the stated mileage when towing.
That is not isolated. Therefore it is not anecdotal.
The logical fallacy is yours.
When you want to believe isolated studies, most likely paid by money funneled by the auto industry, or EV supporters - and not believe owner after owner after owner saying this is not what is happening.
Got itNO it doesn't Moron.
It's a matter of numbers/data/stats.
If 50 or 100 people have a problem out or 200,000 without it.....
You are just SO F***** STUPID.
Go lay down.
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It's a matter of numbers/data/stats.Got it
We should believe the woke auto company employees instead our own lyin’ eyes
I have yet to see a Ford truck owner pull off the range under load that you say it can doIt's a matter of numbers/data/stats.
If 50 or 100 people have a problem out or 200,000 without it.....
You TOO are just SO F***** STUPID.
Every mfg product has a percent of faulty ones
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Lol, no different than any other mining operation. They just don't fuck ya on both ends.How're those rare Earth mineral mining operations going, in terms of environmental friendliness?
TANSTAFL, enviroloon.
Lemme test one, I bet I can break it!I have yet to see a Ford truck owner pull off the range under load that you say it can do
NO it doesn't Moron.It stops being anecdotal the second they can prove what they say.
They can.
