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If the rest of Citizens have more expensive coverage because others don't have coverage, and if the rest of us have to pay for those with no coverage when they fall ill, then yes it makes perfect damn sense to me to mandate that if you can afford health coverage, you have to buy it. Everyone who doesn't want to die early or painfully will need it.
CBO, Jan. 11, 2010: Overall, CBO estimates that premiums for Bronze plans purchased individually in 2016 would probably average between $4,500 and $5,000 for single policies and between $12,000 and $12,500 for family policies.
Just switch the rhetoric if a republican would have come up with this idea. Cons would be yelling about personal resonsibility and dems would be yelling about constitutionality. SSDD
Is it okay to force someone to buy health insurance against their will and tax them if they don't?
No one is forced to buy health insurance, the tax is not punitive and is no more or less appropriate than any other taxing provision.
For republicans, conservatives, libertarians, and the rest of the presidents enemies on the right, however, relating the facts of the issue is pointless, as theyll blindly adhere to their partisan lies and contrivances, willfully ignorant of the truth.
The White House and the Obama campaign today insisted that the individual mandate in the presidents health care bill is a penalty, not a tax, despite the Supreme Courts ruling to uphold the law under Congress taxing power.
a punishment imposed or incurred for a violation of law or rule.
serving for, concerned with, or inflicting punishment: punitive laws; punitive action.
They should be obligated to have insurance if they can afford it, too. In fact, if they are filing a tax return, they ARE obligated.What about all the illegals who will still be free loaders?
We all are still paying for their emergency room services.
If you are an undocumented immigrant you will not be subject to the individual insurance mandate and you will not be fined if you fail to purchase health insurance, nor will you be allowed to enroll in Medicaid or buy insurance in the health insurance exchange, says Herrick.
However, hospital emergency rooms will not be able to deny you health care if you are in need. What makes this surprising is that the most common argument for an individual mandate is that the uninsured should have to contribute to their own health care instead of getting it for free in the emergency room. This is why U.S. citizens will be required to pay hefty fines if they do not obtain insurance. If you are here illegally, however, you get to escape that penalty, says Herrick.
Source: Devon Herrick, "How Do Illegal Immigrants Fare Under ObamaCare?" National Center for Policy Analysis, August 2, 2010.
Ideologically, I am more of a pragmatist than a partisan. Everyone should have insurance. They are stupid if they don't. But the govt. can't outlaw stupidity.
I would be far more comfortable if the mandate was a very low cost, catastrophic policy that would cost no more than the "penalty". Believe it or not, many people won't take advantage of the govt. paying for them to get their balls checked. True story.
Oh, you're right, I forgot that the "conservatives" melted down over the idea of illegal immigrants being "allowed" to buy healthcare insurance. Nice work!If you are an undocumented immigrant you will not be subject to the individual insurance mandate and you will not be fined if you fail to purchase health insurance, nor will you be allowed to enroll in Medicaid or buy insurance in the health insurance exchange, says Herrick.
However, hospital emergency rooms will not be able to deny you health care if you are in need. What makes this surprising is that the most common argument for an individual mandate is that the uninsured should have to contribute to their own health care instead of getting it for free in the emergency room. This is why U.S. citizens will be required to pay hefty fines if they do not obtain insurance. If you are here illegally, however, you get to escape that penalty, says Herrick.
Source: Devon Herrick, "How Do Illegal Immigrants Fare Under ObamaCare?" National Center for Policy Analysis, August 2, 2010.
How Do Illegal Immigrants Fare Under ObamaCare?
And you really think that illegal aliens are going to file an income tax return? I have this feeling that since they VIOLATED THE LAW by coming here illegally, then I seriously doubt that they will let the government know that they are here and where they are. Course, if you think about it, why not? Barry isn't going to deport them, so why not file and get their $5,000 tax refund.
And as a side note: Went to the latest meeting of the "dead" and "buried" Tea Party. We had TEN new members who joined immediately and emails from twenty other people wanting to know when and where we meet and what it takes to join. In our mail were two money orders: Each for $1,000 and information that if we need more, then to just let them know!
And it would be most helpful if someone would reiterate they argument about why it is okay that a state makes you buy auto insurance but why it is not okay to be forced to buy health insurance.
What I have always heard as a retort to the auto insurance argument is that you have a choice of whether or not to own a car, whereas you don't have a choice to buy health insurance with a mandate. That it is about personal freedom to choose.
Is this correct?
If you are an undocumented immigrant you will not be subject to the individual insurance mandate and you will not be fined if you fail to purchase health insurance, nor will you be allowed to enroll in Medicaid or buy insurance in the health insurance exchange, says Herrick.
However, hospital emergency rooms will not be able to deny you health care if you are in need. What makes this surprising is that the most common argument for an individual mandate is that the uninsured should have to contribute to their own health care instead of getting it for free in the emergency room. This is why U.S. citizens will be required to pay hefty fines if they do not obtain insurance. If you are here illegally, however, you get to escape that penalty, says Herrick.
Source: Devon Herrick, "How Do Illegal Immigrants Fare Under ObamaCare?" National Center for Policy Analysis, August 2, 2010.
How Do Illegal Immigrants Fare Under ObamaCare?
Thank You very much Democrats.
Stupidest argument of all the stupid arguments on this issue.And it would be most helpful if someone would reiterate they argument about why it is okay that a state makes you buy auto insurance but why it is not okay to be forced to buy health insurance.
What I have always heard as a retort to the auto insurance argument is that you have a choice of whether or not to own a car, whereas you don't have a choice to buy health insurance with a mandate. That it is about personal freedom to choose.
Is this correct?
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone who does not have insurance"
Now, if all first responders, ERs, and all Medical Personnel were provided a "Bad Samaritan Shield" this entire mandate argument would go away.
So, the Congress should pass such a law. No mandate and a simple choice. Buy insurance or suffer the consequences - real consequences, not a simple fine.
Those too cheap or so callous they won't buy insurance because it helps others deserve no better.
Ideologically, I am more of a pragmatist than a partisan. Everyone should have insurance. They are stupid if they don't. But the govt. can't outlaw stupidity.
I would be far more comfortable if the mandate was a very low cost, catastrophic policy that would cost no more than the "penalty". Believe it or not, many people won't take advantage of the govt. paying for them to get their balls checked. True story.
They should be able to outlaw stupidity if it's going to negatively effect everyone else in the Country due to said stupidity. More common sense.
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone who does not have insurance"
Now, if all first responders, ERs, and all Medical Personnel were provided a "Bad Samaritan Shield" this entire mandate argument would go away.
So, the Congress should pass such a law. No mandate and a simple choice. Buy insurance or suffer the consequences - real consequences, not a simple fine.
Those too cheap or so callous they won't buy insurance because it helps others deserve no better.
holy cow..you are being serious, aren't you
scary
Ohhh come one !!!!Illegals have more freedom now than Americans for emergency room treatment.
