God... Is Time.

[Hollie]

Science can evaluate gravity in spite of the force of gravity not being observed.

You are an idiot if you don't think gravitational force is observable!

It was you who pontificated that:

"Science cannot evaluate that which cannot be observed™"
~Braindead

I corrected your baseless opinion that gravity is a force that can be evaluated but not observed.

Try paying attention.

 

[Boss]

And actually.... probability/odds do factor into this.

The present continues to happen.

...And we continue to be unable to observe it!

We have a perception of it happening in the past. You trust that your perception happening after the fact is correct but you can never prove it because the moment of present time is non-observable to physical beings. This means you simply have FAITH the present is as you are perceiving it.

Now... please tell me how many more times are we going to go through this? A dozen? Two dozen? Are we going to still be here next year? How long does it generally take for irrefutable arguments to penetrate your thick head?

 

[Boss]

Science can evaluate gravity in spite of the force of gravity not being observed.

You are an idiot if you don't think gravitational force is observable!

It was you who pontificated that:

"Science cannot evaluate that which cannot be observed™"
~Braindead

I corrected your baseless opinion that gravity is a force that can be evaluated but not observed.

Try paying attention.

But we observe gravitational force every day! What the hell do you think keeps you from being flung out into space? Or the moon revolving around the Earth or the Earth around the Sun?

Are you confusing sight with observation again?

 

[Hollie]

Science can evaluate gravity in spite of the force of gravity not being observed.

You are an idiot if you don't think gravitational force is observable!

It was you who pontificated that:

"Science cannot evaluate that which cannot be observed™"
~Braindead

I corrected your baseless opinion that gravity is a force that can be evaluated but not observed.

Try paying attention.

But we observe gravitational force every day! What the hell do you think keeps you from being flung out into space? Or the moon revolving around the Earth or the Earth around the Sun?

Are you confusing sight with observation again?

We have faith regarding your inability to focus. It was you who pontificated that:

"Science cannot evaluate that which cannot be observed™"
~Braindead

We observe the affects of gravity. Gravity is a force much like electromagnetism which affects are observable.

 

[BreezeWood]

You can't observe the present to confirm your theory. You rely on FAITH in your perception, that's ALL you can do as a physical being.

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observing the present does not rely on faith as the faith would only occur after the presence is experienced - the physical components of an organism are distinct from its cognitive response.

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[Boss]

We observe the affects of gravity. Gravity is a force much like electromagnetism which affects are observable.

Geeez... The EFFECTS of gravity is what gravity IS, stupid! We observe it, we measure it, we do calculations with it all the time. It is not something that isn't observable.

 

[G.T.]

Correct my argument is irrefutable and boss is a dunce game over.

 

[Hollie]

We observe the affects of gravity. Gravity is a force much like electromagnetism which affects are observable.

Geeez... The EFFECTS of gravity is what gravity IS, stupid! We observe it, we measure it, we do calculations with it all the time. It is not something that isn't observable.

Ummm. No. What you see are the affects of gravity. Gravity is, effectively, an invisible force that acts on objects. Describe for us what gravity looks like. When you're done, describe what electromagnetism looks like. What shape, color, physical appearance can you identify?

 

[Boss]

Correct my argument is irrefutable and boss is a dunce game over.

Post 1079 above, your argument was destroyed.

 

[Boss]

We observe the affects of gravity. Gravity is a force much like electromagnetism which affects are observable.

Geeez... The EFFECTS of gravity is what gravity IS, stupid! We observe it, we measure it, we do calculations with it all the time. It is not something that isn't observable.

Ummm. No. What you see are the affects of gravity. Gravity is, effectively, an invisible force that acts on objects. Describe for us what gravity looks like. When you're done, describe what electromagnetism looks like. What shape, color, physical appearance can you identify?

Again, something doesn't have to be visible to be observable. We observe the effects of gravity and that's what gravity is. Electromagnetism, same deal. You are ignorantly misinterpreting "vision" and "sight" to mean observation. There are many things that are not visible, that we cannot see, but we can still observe them. What we cannot observe is the moment of present time. We have to wait for physics to provide a perception in the past.

 

[Hollie]

Science can evaluate gravity in spite of the force of gravity not being observed.

You are an idiot if you don't think gravitational force is observable!

I see you're revising your argument as you were corrected for falsely claiming gravity is observable. Yet another of your backstrokes and waffles when your silly pontificating leaves you with a trail of false claims.

 

[Hollie]

We observe the affects of gravity. Gravity is a force much like electromagnetism which affects are observable.

Geeez... The EFFECTS of gravity is what gravity IS, stupid! We observe it, we measure it, we do calculations with it all the time. It is not something that isn't observable.

Ummm. No. What you see are the affects of gravity. Gravity is, effectively, an invisible force that acts on objects. Describe for us what gravity looks like. When you're done, describe what electromagnetism looks like. What shape, color, physical appearance can you identify?

Again, something doesn't have to be visible to be observable. We observe the effects of gravity and that's what gravity is. Electromagnetism, same deal. You are ignorantly misinterpreting "vision" and "sight" to mean observation. There are many things that are not visible, that we cannot see, but we can still observe them. What we cannot observe is the moment of present time. We have to wait for physics to provide a perception in the past.

Yet another backstroke and waffle.

Obviously, we can observe the present. None of your frantic appeals to gawds=time™ will revise the Boss'isms™ that are a source of such snickering and ridicule.

You are frantically trying to sidestep and waffle regarding your ignorance with regard to science and physics.

You should realize by now that the more you pontificate, the more you make yourself a cartoon character of the blustering, ignorant religious zealot, utterly inept at grown up conversation.

 

[Boss]

You can't observe the present to confirm your theory. You rely on FAITH in your perception, that's ALL you can do as a physical being.

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observing the present does not rely on faith as the faith would only occur after the presence is experienced - the physical components of an organism are distinct from its cognitive response.

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I've stopped trying to figure out what the hell you're saying. Why do you post in such a broken and distorted manner? It's almost as if English isn't your first language and you are trying to use too many words in order to sound more sophisticated. You should slow your mind down a bit and try to form coherent and shorter sentences. When people read your posts, it's like trying to decipher a riddle. I literally have NO idea what you're talking about here.

We don't observe the present. We can't observe the present because we have to wait for physics to happen. What we end up with is a perception, not an observation, happening after the present has moved on. Does the perception we have match the reality of the present? We can't know because we can't observe the present to verify it. We have faith it does.

 

[Boss]

Yet another backstroke and waffle.

Nope... just more of your silly banter.

 

[Hollie]

You can't observe the present to confirm your theory. You rely on FAITH in your perception, that's ALL you can do as a physical being.

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observing the present does not rely on faith as the faith would only occur after the presence is experienced - the physical components of an organism are distinct from its cognitive response.

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I've stopped trying to figure out what the hell you're saying. Why do you post in such a broken and distorted manner? It's almost as if English isn't your first language and you are trying to use too many words in order to sound more sophisticated. You should slow your mind down a bit and try to form coherent and shorter sentences. When people read your posts, it's like trying to decipher a riddle. I literally have NO idea what you're talking about here.

We don't observe the present. We can't observe the present because we have to wait for physics to happen. What we end up with is a perception, not an observation, happening after the present has moved on. Does the perception we have match the reality of the present? We can't know because we can't observe the present to verify it. We have faith it does.

Of course we can observe the present. Pointless appeals to your gawds is a poor substitute for your lack of a science vocabulary.

Yet another backstroke and waffle.

Nope... just more of your silly banter.

Eyup...... You're stuttering and mumbling because your attempt at argument is inept and requires appeals to your imagined spirit realms.

 

[BreezeWood]

You can't observe the present to confirm your theory. You rely on FAITH in your perception, that's ALL you can do as a physical being.

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observing the present does not rely on faith as the faith would only occur after the presence is experienced - the physical components of an organism are distinct from its cognitive response.

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I've stopped trying to figure out what the hell you're saying. Why do you post in such a broken and distorted manner? It's almost as if English isn't your first language and you are trying to use too many words in order to sound more sophisticated. You should slow your mind down a bit and try to form coherent and shorter sentences. When people read your posts, it's like trying to decipher a riddle. I literally have NO idea what you're talking about here.

We don't observe the present. We can't observe the present because we have to wait for physics to happen. What we end up with is a perception, not an observation, happening after the present has moved on. Does the perception we have match the reality of the present? We can't know because we can't observe the present to verify it. We have faith it does.

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bossy: I've stopped trying to figure out what the hell you're saying. Why do you post in such a broken and distorted manner?

one sentence with two parts is to much for you to understand ...

observing the present does not rely on faith as the faith would only occur after the presence is experienced - the physical components of an organism are distinct from its cognitive response.

ok, we'll just go with the first part:

observing the present does not rely on faith as the faith would only occur after the presence is experienced -

to answer the question of physics was the second part;

the physical components of an organism are distinct from its cognitive response.

hope that helps ....

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[edthecynic]

Again, something doesn't have to be visible to be observable. We observe the effects of gravity and that's what gravity is. Electromagnetism, same deal. You are ignorantly misinterpreting "vision" and "sight" to mean observation. There are many things that are not visible, that we cannot see, but we can still observe them.

Not according to Bossy's stupid Law of Observation. Any effect of gravity we try to observe takes time, due to physics, to reach our eyes and therefore does not exist in the present to be observed. For example, if we observe a falling body, due to physics we cannot know except by faith that the body is actually falling.

 

[G.T.]

Correct my argument is irrefutable and boss is a dunce game over.

Post 1079 above, your argument was destroyed.

Umm no. I have zero reason to believe what I perceive is incorrect. Like I said earlier maybe you need a mental institution but I don't

 

[Boss]

Of course we can observe the present.

Well... No we can't, Hollie. I've already explained why it's impossible and you seem to be the only person in the forum who doesn't understand it. We cannot observe the moment of present time. Physics has to give us a perception first, which takes time, which means the present is not observed.

We have a perception of the present and we have faith our perception is accurately depicting what the moment of present was. We can't confirm this because we cannot observe the present, we are bound by physics.

Again, for all you Einstein's in training out there... If you've found a way for Science or Physics to test and measure something that cannot be observed, you have unlocked the scientific formula for proving God. Let church bells ring, glory, glory, hallelujah!

I maintain that you have proven no such thing and you can't prove it.

 

[Boss]

Again, something doesn't have to be visible to be observable. We observe the effects of gravity and that's what gravity is. Electromagnetism, same deal. You are ignorantly misinterpreting "vision" and "sight" to mean observation. There are many things that are not visible, that we cannot see, but we can still observe them.

Not according to Bossy's stupid Law of Observation. Any effect of gravity we try to observe takes time, due to physics, to reach our eyes and therefore does not exist in the present to be observed. For example, if we observe a falling body, due to physics we cannot know except by faith that the body is actually falling.

Wrong.

If you try to observe a falling body without time, does the body fall? No. The moment of present time is not a period of time, it is a specific point in time. Time doesn't pass during the present. You can't observe anything until physics happens. It doesn't matter that you can't observe gravity in the present, nothing can be observed in the present, there is no time for anything to be observed. The present is a point in time, not a period of time.