Gone are pre-existing conditions if you vote for trump, and I know some trumpers are counting on the ACA

[Cellblock2429]

It just doesn't need to be dictated by government. Period.

The chances of an entity that has the number one concern of stock price is never going to do what needs done. People should not have to die because a CEO didn't get a record bonus last year.

And they don't. Next feeble excuse?

There are many people who die because they can not afford preventive care. They can't afford a colonoscopy so their cancer doesn't get detected until it's causing problems. What makes no sense is that then the taxpayers will be on the hook and those costs are far higher than the preventive colonoscopy.

More excuses. It's all about control, so corporations and government can herd us into their pens. Fuck that.

Now you are just ranting.

I am indeed. I'm am so goddamn sick of statists who want government running everything. Please, please, fucking stop. How much power is enough for you people?

Get some health care company to not put their stock prices as their number one concern and then maybe you can argue for that.

Never enough, eh?

Your argument makes no fucking sense. You complain because the health care market is dominated by a handful of wealthy corporations - corporations that became wealthy and dominant by colluding with government. Yet these corporations don't, yet, have the power to arrest and imprison people who defy them. Your solution: give all the power to one corporation that DOES have the power to arrest or imprison anyone who won't play along.

NO THANKS.

Actually I support getting rid of those corporations completely.

/-----/ Where will you get your food - the collective farm?
Where will you get your next PC and cell phone? The dumpster?
Make your own clothes, will ya?

I missed where any of that was being discussed.

/------/ Are you that uninformed? Farms, grocery stores, computer manufacturers, and retail stores, in general, are ALL CORPORATIONS. Geeeze, how can you be so clueless?

And not what is being discussed.

/——-/ it’s discussed right here. This is what I’m responding to: “Actually I support getting rid of those corporations completely.”

Right, the ones we were discussing. We weren't discussing what you went on to ramble about.

/——/ And do away with THOSE corporations and you can no longer sue them, plus the tax revenues will stop.

 

[pknopp]

It just doesn't need to be dictated by government. Period.

The chances of an entity that has the number one concern of stock price is never going to do what needs done. People should not have to die because a CEO didn't get a record bonus last year.

And they don't. Next feeble excuse?

There are many people who die because they can not afford preventive care. They can't afford a colonoscopy so their cancer doesn't get detected until it's causing problems. What makes no sense is that then the taxpayers will be on the hook and those costs are far higher than the preventive colonoscopy.

More excuses. It's all about control, so corporations and government can herd us into their pens. Fuck that.

Now you are just ranting.

I am indeed. I'm am so goddamn sick of statists who want government running everything. Please, please, fucking stop. How much power is enough for you people?

Get some health care company to not put their stock prices as their number one concern and then maybe you can argue for that.

Never enough, eh?

Your argument makes no fucking sense. You complain because the health care market is dominated by a handful of wealthy corporations - corporations that became wealthy and dominant by colluding with government. Yet these corporations don't, yet, have the power to arrest and imprison people who defy them. Your solution: give all the power to one corporation that DOES have the power to arrest or imprison anyone who won't play along.

NO THANKS.

Actually I support getting rid of those corporations completely.

/-----/ Where will you get your food - the collective farm?
Where will you get your next PC and cell phone? The dumpster?
Make your own clothes, will ya?

I missed where any of that was being discussed.

/------/ Are you that uninformed? Farms, grocery stores, computer manufacturers, and retail stores, in general, are ALL CORPORATIONS. Geeeze, how can you be so clueless?

And not what is being discussed.

/——-/ it’s discussed right here. This is what I’m responding to: “Actually I support getting rid of those corporations completely.”

Right, the ones we were discussing. We weren't discussing what you went on to ramble about.

/——/ And do away with THOSE corporations and you can no longer sue them, plus the tax revenues will stop.

Yes, "those corporations". The ones we were discussing.

 

[justinacolmena]

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.

Maybe we need to wipe all existing medical records and start with a clean slate. A standard physical exam by a doctor without any other information will reveal more than enough medical history for any care or treatment relevant to the patient's present state of body and mind.

Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.

Health care is getting more involuntary and less voluntary these days, and it's more mental health than physical health anyways. Talk is cheap, libtard dads and concerned mothers are worried about guns, and doctors don't want to be responsible for botched surgery or inappropriate medication, unless it is to drug the patient into such a stupor with antipsychotics that he or she loses the ability to fight back.

The premiums and co-pays are mandatory, not optional under Obamacare. Do you have any kids? Are they up to date on all their vaccinations and shots for school enrollment? Are all the boys circumcised? Are all the girls doctored up in the pussy and examined for genital warts? The kids aren't welcome in school, and they won't let you home-school either if you're a "right-winger."

 

[francoHFW]

for PECs. They are not only for the ACA, they help all insurances except what tramp came out with short term plans, they only cover you if your young and healthy.


Short term plans were created to help fill temporary gaps in coverage that can occur in certain situations. These types of plans are typically not good substitutes for traditional health plans. They do not have to adhere to ACA standards. They provide limited benefits with generally much higher costs.
What is Short Term Health Insurance? | Cigna
-------------------------------------
They are pretty much the same as cobra, except they don't cover you if your have a PEC. I know a lot of you are on Medicare, but don't you want people younger to have PEC's coverage, your children and your grandkids?

Be wary of signing up for Advantage Plans.

Say bye if you vote for tramp.

He doesn't have a plan.

The republicans want to go back to pre the ACA.

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.
Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.
It is a albatross.

Yes and that $7,800 is an annual limit on out-of-pocket which did not exist before. And ObamaCare is guaranteed at least in blue States. Congratulations. Now stop sabotaging it and get real competition and transparency with costs....

 

[francoHFW]

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.

Maybe we need to wipe all existing medical records and start with a clean slate. A standard physical exam by a doctor without any other information will reveal more than enough medical history for any care or treatment relevant to the patient's present state of body and mind.

Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.

Health care is getting more involuntary and less voluntary these days, and it's more mental health than physical health anyways. Talk is cheap, libtard dads and concerned mothers are worried about guns, and doctors don't want to be responsible for botched surgery or inappropriate medication, unless it is to drug the patient into such a stupor with antipsychotics that he or she loses the ability to fight back.

The premiums and co-pays are mandatory, not optional under Obamacare. Do you have any kids? Are they up to date on all their vaccinations and shots for school enrollment? Are all the boys circumcised? Are all the girls doctored up in the pussy and examined for genital warts? The kids aren't welcome in school, and they won't let you home-school either if you're a "right-winger."

Psychologists and psychiatry experts say that 26% of Americans are insane to one extent or another - might have something to do with our mental health system which barely exists period of course no sacrifice is too great to save the GOP idiot rich from paying their fair share.... Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[dblack]

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.

Maybe we need to wipe all existing medical records and start with a clean slate. A standard physical exam by a doctor without any other information will reveal more than enough medical history for any care or treatment relevant to the patient's present state of body and mind.

Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.

Health care is getting more involuntary and less voluntary these days, and it's more mental health than physical health anyways. Talk is cheap, libtard dads and concerned mothers are worried about guns, and doctors don't want to be responsible for botched surgery or inappropriate medication, unless it is to drug the patient into such a stupor with antipsychotics that he or she loses the ability to fight back.

The premiums and co-pays are mandatory, not optional under Obamacare. Do you have any kids? Are they up to date on all their vaccinations and shots for school enrollment? Are all the boys circumcised? Are all the girls doctored up in the pussy and examined for genital warts? The kids aren't welcome in school, and they won't let you home-school either if you're a "right-winger."

Psychologists and psychiatry experts say that 26% of Americans are insane to one extent or another - might have something to do with our mental health system which barely exists period of course no sacrifice is too great to save the GOP idiot rich from paying their fair share.... Wake up and smell the coffee.

Awesome. Now you want the state running mental health care as well. Too bad you missed out on the Soviet Union. Woulda been right up your alley.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.

Maybe we need to wipe all existing medical records and start with a clean slate. A standard physical exam by a doctor without any other information will reveal more than enough medical history for any care or treatment relevant to the patient's present state of body and mind.

Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.

Health care is getting more involuntary and less voluntary these days, and it's more mental health than physical health anyways. Talk is cheap, libtard dads and concerned mothers are worried about guns, and doctors don't want to be responsible for botched surgery or inappropriate medication, unless it is to drug the patient into such a stupor with antipsychotics that he or she loses the ability to fight back.

The premiums and co-pays are mandatory, not optional under Obamacare. Do you have any kids? Are they up to date on all their vaccinations and shots for school enrollment? Are all the boys circumcised? Are all the girls doctored up in the pussy and examined for genital warts? The kids aren't welcome in school, and they won't let you home-school either if you're a "right-winger."

Psychologists and psychiatry experts say that 26% of Americans are insane to one extent or another - might have something to do with our mental health system which barely exists period of course no sacrifice is too great to save the GOP idiot rich from paying their fair share.... Wake up and smell the coffee.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is the most serious mental health problem facing America.

Sufferers are a danger to themselves and others.

Worse still, they're really fucking annoying...

 

[JustAGuy1]

for PECs. They are not only for the ACA, they help all insurances except what tramp came out with short term plans, they only cover you if your young and healthy.


Short term plans were created to help fill temporary gaps in coverage that can occur in certain situations. These types of plans are typically not good substitutes for traditional health plans. They do not have to adhere to ACA standards. They provide limited benefits with generally much higher costs.
What is Short Term Health Insurance? | Cigna
-------------------------------------
They are pretty much the same as cobra, except they don't cover you if your have a PEC. I know a lot of you are on Medicare, but don't you want people younger to have PEC's coverage, your children and your grandkids?

Be wary of signing up for Advantage Plans.

Say bye if you vote for tramp.

He doesn't have a plan.

The republicans want to go back to pre the ACA.

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.
Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.
It is a albatross.

Yes and that $7,800 is an annual limit on out-of-pocket which did not exist before. And ObamaCare is guaranteed at least in blue States. Congratulations. Now stop sabotaging it and get real competition and transparency with costs....

Yes and that $7,800 is an annual limit on out-of-pocket which did not exist before.

Absolute lie.

 

[Bulletbob]

Trump has made it plain time and time again that he wants preexisting conditions covered.

Maybe we need to wipe all existing medical records and start with a clean slate. A standard physical exam by a doctor without any other information will reveal more than enough medical history for any care or treatment relevant to the patient's present state of body and mind.

Also. O bung hole care resulted in individual co pays as high as 7800 and also 20 new taxes or tax increases and he lied about being able to keep your existing health care and doctor. Also the premiums have gone up fast.

Health care is getting more involuntary and less voluntary these days, and it's more mental health than physical health anyways. Talk is cheap, libtard dads and concerned mothers are worried about guns, and doctors don't want to be responsible for botched surgery or inappropriate medication, unless it is to drug the patient into such a stupor with antipsychotics that he or she loses the ability to fight back.

The premiums and co-pays are mandatory, not optional under Obamacare. Do you have any kids? Are they up to date on all their vaccinations and shots for school enrollment? Are all the boys circumcised? Are all the girls doctored up in the pussy and examined for genital warts? The kids aren't welcome in school, and they won't let you home-school either if you're a "right-winger."

Psychologists and psychiatry experts say that 26% of Americans are insane to one extent or another - might have something to do with our mental health system which barely exists period of course no sacrifice is too great to save the GOP idiot rich from paying their fair share.... Wake up and smell the coffee.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is the most serious mental health problem facing America.

Sufferers are a danger to themselves and others.

Worse still, they're really fucking annoying...

 

[justinacolmena]

Psychologists and psychiatry experts say that 26% of Americans are insane to one extent or another

Trump Derangement Syndrome is the most serious mental health problem facing America.

war
Wasn't it George Orwell who invented the concept of political thoughtcrime? 1984? Animal Farm? War is peace, hate is love, and all that good stuff?

 

[Bulletbob]

trump derangement is indeed real and a lot of democrats are suffering from it.

I have seen democrats blame trump for a death because of him putting in a new supreme court justice for covid 19 , global warming , violence in America the riots , racism , they accuse him supporting white supremacist, the conditions of the inner city's and crime there ,
they still think hes involved in some great Russian conspiracy and putin tells him what to do lol.
being anti Jewish , they support terrorist nations over America and say hes trying to start a war with North Korea when hes brokered more historic peace negations and deals then several presidents put together have.
they say hes stealing money from America for himself and so much more
this indicates that they do indeed suffer from Trump derangement syndrome .

they dont really think Blow hole joe bitter and peanut butter legs harris will be good for America and are honest , they know he will screw it up but their misplaced hate for Trump due to social media is influencing their vote .

they know she is a far left radical socialist and joe has a poor record and is a massive lying wind bag whos mind is slipping .
but their hate and lack of common sense is motivating them

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump said multiple times he would not sign into law any legislation that did not include preexisting conditions.

So quit fucking lying.

 

[Crepitus]

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Because when they show up at the ER with no or crappy insurance we have to foot the bill.

I thought this was clearly understood?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Because when they show up at the ER with no or crappy insurance we have to foot the bill.

I thought this was clearly understood?

So would you consider "crappy insurance" a "health care plan" with a 10K dollar deductible?

 

[justoffal]

That's the point of having insurance before something bad happens....

After all, you don't insure your house after it burns down, do you????

Well....Democrats do

Jo

 

[dblack]

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Because when they show up at the ER with no or crappy insurance we have to foot the bill.

I thought this was clearly understood?

It's understood, as a weak excuse for a government takeover. No thanks.

 

[francoHFW]

trump derangement is indeed real and a lot of democrats are suffering from it.

I have seen democrats blame trump for a death because of him putting in a new supreme court justice for covid 19 , global warming , violence in America the riots , racism , they accuse him supporting white supremacist, the conditions of the inner city's and crime there ,
they still think hes involved in some great Russian conspiracy and putin tells him what to do lol.
being anti Jewish , they support terrorist nations over America and say hes trying to start a war with North Korea when hes brokered more historic peace negations and deals then several presidents put together have.
they say hes stealing money from America for himself and so much more
this indicates that they do indeed suffer from Trump derangement syndrome .

they dont really think Blow hole joe bitter and peanut butter legs harris will be good for America and are honest , they know he will screw it up but their misplaced hate for Trump due to social media is influencing their vote .

they know she is a far left radical socialist and joe has a poor record and is a massive lying wind bag whos mind is slipping .
but their hate and lack of common sense is motivating them

Whatever you do don't change the channel. The rest of the world and law enforcement think you are nuts and totally misinformed.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It just doesn't need to be dictated by government. Period.

The chances of an entity that has the number one concern of stock price is never going to do what needs done. People should not have to die because a CEO didn't get a record bonus last year.

And they don't. Next feeble excuse?

There are many people who die because they can not afford preventive care. They can't afford a colonoscopy so their cancer doesn't get detected until it's causing problems. What makes no sense is that then the taxpayers will be on the hook and those costs are far higher than the preventive colonoscopy.

More excuses. It's all about control, so corporations and government can herd us into their pens. Fuck that.

Now you are just ranting.

I am indeed. I'm am so goddamn sick of statists who want government running everything. Please, please, fucking stop. How much power is enough for you people?

Get some health care company to not put their stock prices as their number one concern and then maybe you can argue for that.

Never enough, eh?

Your argument makes no fucking sense. You complain because the health care market is dominated by a handful of wealthy corporations - corporations that became wealthy and dominant by colluding with government. Yet these corporations don't, yet, have the power to arrest and imprison people who defy them. Your solution: give all the power to one corporation that DOES have the power to arrest or imprison anyone who won't play along.

NO THANKS.

Actually I support getting rid of those corporations completely.

No, you want to replace them with ONE corporation aka government. You want the state to have all the power. Fuck that.

I would like to see the "Government" get back to just regulating it instead of owning it.

It's the same thing. "Regulation" is what feeds the greedy corporations. It's how they herd you.

No, it's not the same thing.

It is. Regulation is a con. It's sold to the plebes with the false notion that it will rein in greedy corporations. But here's the dirty little secret: they're never regulating businesses - they're regulating consumers. Politicians and corporations collude to herd consumers by outlawing alternatives.

In the days before regulation, a handful would make all the bucks and people died to make it for them. As long as the "Profits" were high, the few didn't care about the many. Without some form of regulation, Capitalist eat their own because "There can only be one".

Sure man. Dragons at the gate. We must submit!

You go ahead and submit. I suggest everyone else find a way to overcome.

By submitting to state control? Gotcha. And when another Trump comes along?

We need to do some changes to prevent the type of behavior that Rump has done. It boggles the imagination that it could go that far. So we need, obviously, to put more checks and balances for the Executive Branch. I think the big thing was when the AG turned into Rump personal Attorney and no longer for for America. Some would say that it happened under Obama. So we just say that maybe we need a different way of appointing an AG.

You are overreacting to things on this one. Right now, the ACA (if it were in full force) would run the entire Medical. Not a good idea. What would be so wrong with having the Medical Community to put together a Committee and have a big say in things. Make it a 3 parter. We have many committees like that already and since you never hear of them, that means they are doing a good job. We only hear about the ones that foul up.

Now about my supporting Rump, click on my Tag.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?

Because when they show up at the ER with no or crappy insurance we have to foot the bill.

I thought this was clearly understood?

It's understood, as a weak excuse for a government takeover. No thanks.

Crep has a point. Everyone else is already paying for the poor's health care. The crux of the matter is, the poor cannot just up and go to a Doctor for preventive medicine which is cheap. They wait until it's a full blown emergency and then go to the ER which is the most expensive. In a way, we are doing some of what you despise so much with Covid. Walk into any hospital and say that you have all the symptoms that they have posted in that really big poster and, whang, you get medical treatment.

 

[Viktor]

for PECs. They are not only for the ACA, they help all insurances except what tramp came out with short term plans, they only cover you if your young and healthy.


Short term plans were created to help fill temporary gaps in coverage that can occur in certain situations. These types of plans are typically not good substitutes for traditional health plans. They do not have to adhere to ACA standards. They provide limited benefits with generally much higher costs.
What is Short Term Health Insurance? | Cigna
-------------------------------------
They are pretty much the same as cobra, except they don't cover you if your have a PEC. I know a lot of you are on Medicare, but don't you want people younger to have PEC's coverage, your children and your grandkids?

Be wary of signing up for Advantage Plans.

Say bye if you vote for tramp.

He doesn't have a plan.

The republicans want to go back to pre the ACA.

Complete bullshit. I've never used Obamacare since I'm a vet and have VA. Before I had VA, there was 30 years where I had private health insurance and 5 different insurers. Every one of them covered pre existing conditions.