GOP refuses to pass clean debt-ceiling increase

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The GOP will take the blame for a default, just as they are taking the blame for the shutdown.

Which, of course, is all you care about because as always with someone as dishonest and dishonorable as yourself it's party before country.

 

[velvtacheeze]

They had no issue with this during the Bush years. Debt ceiling increases passed easily, and without conservatives gnashing their teeth.

This recent history is one of the reasons that the GOP is taking most of the blame. The American voters know that the GOP doesn't really have a problem increasing the debt ceiling, because they did it so often in recent memory during Dumbya Era.

 

[Hoffstra]

Which, of course, is all you care about because as always with someone as dishonest and dishonorable as yourself it's party before country.

yes, I want the debt ceiling to be raised, free of political garbage.

if you want to cut the budget, do it in a seperate bill.

don't hold the debt ceiling hostage to politics.

 

[PredFan]

Boehner: U.S. Republicans will not pass 'clean' debt-limit increase - Yahoo Finance

Boehner has now stated that he and the GOP will hold the debt-ceiling increase, and indeed the financial health of the USA & the World, hostage to their budget cuts.

This makes me very sad. I thought they were smarter than this. I thought they were more Patriotic than this.

A partial govt. shutdown in order to get budget consessions is one thing, but threatening a debt default is a whole different creature.

This is a very dangerous path the GOP is taking.



Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility -- two things that set us apart from much of the world."

Ronald Reagan, 1968

You are quite the obediant sheep.

causing the nation to default on its debt because they don't get the budget cuts they want, would be an act of legislative terrorism.

you think Ronald Reagan was an obedient sheep?

You believe that nonsense, you are the sheep pal.

 

[Contumacious]

Translation: How will the Dow react to Obama's talking down the markets?

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Government shutdown: Wall Street angry at tea party it has no influence over

The reality is that deep-pocketed financial services executives and their lobbyists have little leverage against tea party lawmakers who don’t much care for financiers or big banks and don’t rely heavily on the industry for campaign cash.

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[Hoffstra]

I'll say it again: holding the nation's debt ceiling hostage to demands for budget cuts, is legislative terrorism.

I don't care if the GOP goes down in flames, but you don't have to take the rest of the nation with you.

 

[PredFan]

I'll say it again: holding the nation's debt ceiling hostage to demands for budget cuts, is legislative terrorism.

I don't care if the GOP goes down in flames, but you don't have to take the rest of the nation with you.

Say it as many times as you want to, it's still nonsense.

 

[Dot Com]

Repubs are going to affect the markets and we all know what esteem they hold those in

Why Repubs? WHY?!!!

 

[Hoffstra]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/07/u...-lawmakers-to-raise-debt-ceiling.html?hp&_r=0

Boehner says no to a clean budget and no to a clean debt ceiling raise.

He's now a legislative terrorist.

 

[peach174]

Boehner: U.S. Republicans will not pass 'clean' debt-limit increase - Yahoo Finance

Boehner has now stated that he and the GOP will hold the debt-ceiling increase, and indeed the financial health of the USA & the World, hostage to their budget cuts.

This makes me very sad. I thought they were smarter than this. I thought they were more Patriotic than this.

A partial govt. shutdown in order to get budget concessions is one thing, but threatening a debt default is a whole different creature.

This is a very dangerous path the GOP is taking.



Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility -- two things that set us apart from much of the world."

Ronald Reagan, 1968

The budget and debt are two different things.
The GOP is not threating a debt default.
The Dem's have always fought on overspending.
They had to be forced to cut back on the budget in 95.
Then the credit was given to President Clinton who fought it and was the cause of the shut down to begin with.

The Government will not default on the debt.

The Government has plenty of income coming in each month to pay the 30 Billion each month on the debt.

The Government has about 250 Billion each month that comes in.
Where is that coming from?
Gas Taxes
Phone, TV and Internet Taxes
Corporate Taxes
Estate Taxes
Gift Taxes
Excise Taxes
FICA Taxes
Tariff Taxes
Tobacco Taxes
Utility Taxes
There are a lot more than just these that are listed. This is just a few.

 

[Hoffstra]

Why would the GOP threaten to let the debt default?

Are they mad?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I'll say it again: holding the nation's debt ceiling hostage to demands for budget cuts, is legislative terrorism.

You can say it 100 times if you want. It just reiterates to the rest of us what a child you are.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why would the GOP threaten to let the debt default?

Are they mad?

Why do you continue to lie about default? Are you just trolling now?

 

[Hoffstra]

Why do you continue to lie about default? Are you just trolling now?

if we don't raise the debt ceiling by mid-October, we will default on the debt.

This is a fact, deal with it.

 

[velvtacheeze]

If the Democrats threatened default during the last two years of the mistake-riddled Dumbya Presidency, conservatives would have had one of their patented mouth-frothing temper tantrums.

This is why Americans are mostly blaming the GOP.

There is recent history of a Dem-controlled Congress not using this tactic against Dumbya, and there is recent history of a GOP controlled Congress passing debt increases under Dumbya with a casual shrug of the shoulders.

This history is not that long ago. People remember it quite clearly. Conservatives seem to be the exception to this, and think they're winning.

 

[Duped]

We need to spend less than what we take in; first grade math! The liberals want to break the country into socialism with the help of the big spending republicans. We need to cut spending dramatically. Why even have a debt ceiling if the goal is to overspend beyond recovery?

Pass a fucking budget Reid - you fiscal derelict piece of shit!

The debt ceiling is the perfect forum to scrutinize, and debate the debt. Boehner would be derelict if he didn't make issue of the overspending financial collapse trajectory at this time.

As previously stated: there is plenty of money to service the debt. This is just liberal BS camouflage to deflect from their insatiable spending.

 

[peach174]

I'll say it again: holding the nation's debt ceiling hostage to demands for budget cuts, is legislative terrorism.

I don't care if the GOP goes down in flames, but you don't have to take the rest of the nation with you.

Same thing was done in 95.
The difference back then was a whole lot of talking going on and negotiations.
This time the White House has taking the stand of no talking and no negotiation.
It is the White House that wants to take the nation down in flames.
Someone needs to tell the President that he is not a dictator. Only dictators take the no negotiation stand.

 

[Hoffstra]

We need to spend less than what we take in; first grade math! The liberals want to break the country into socialism with the help of the big spending republicans. We need to cut spending dramatically. Why even have a debt ceiling if the goal is to overspend beyond recovery?

Pass a fucking budget Reid - you fiscal derelict piece of shit!

The debt ceiling is the perfect forum to scrutinize, and debate the debt. Boehner would be derelict if he didn't make issue of the overspending financial collapse trajectory at this time.

As previously stated: there is plenty of money to service the debt. This is just liberal BS camouflage to deflect from their insatiable spending.

The Senate passed a budget months ago.

The House refused to go to committee.

Holding the debt ceiling hostage to budget cuts, is legislative terrorism.

 

[Contumacious]

Boehner does not have the power to default on gov't debt. That power is solely Obama's.

you seem to think the President of the USA is a dictator.

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Of course he is.

He claims to have a MANDATE from the majority to compel the nation to participate on his hellcare scam.

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[peach174]

If the Democrats threatened default during the last two years of the mistake-riddled Dumbya Presidency, conservatives would have had one of their patented mouth-frothing temper tantrums.

This is why Americans are mostly blaming the GOP.

There is recent history of a Dem-controlled Congress not using this tactic against Dumbya, and there is recent history of a GOP controlled Congress passing debt increases under Dumbya with a casual shrug of the shoulders.

This history is not that long ago. People remember it quite clearly. Conservatives seem to be the exception to this, and think they're winning.

The GOP is not threating default.

That is the Dems propaganda and the mainstream news is going along right with it.