Gorsuch sides with Dims

[Camp]

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The constitution doesn't apply to illegal aliens.

Non citizens have no rights.
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Completely and totally wrong. The post is a Constitutional Law fail. Read the 14th Amendment.

 

[007]

Completely and totally wrong. The post is a Constitutional Law fail. Read the 14th Amendment.

Sorry... you're full of shit.

 

[DOTR]

Gorsuch sides with liberals in Supreme Court ruling on deportation of violent immigrants

Sure, just because they are illegal and commit crimes in no way means they need to be deported?

Really?

I knew this was coming.

Conservatives fooled again. There is no such thing as a conservative in the US Federal government.

It wasnt that bad. But yes DC is a swamp.

 

[Camp]

Completely and totally wrong. The post is a Constitutional Law fail. Read the 14th Amendment.

Sorry... you're full of shit.

You did not look up the 14th Amendment, or if you did, do not understand what the word jurisdiction means.

 

[007]

Completely and totally wrong. The post is a Constitutional Law fail. Read the 14th Amendment.

Sorry... you're full of shit.

You did not look up the 14th Amendment, or if you did, do not understand what the word jurisdiction means.

You didn't read where I posted that the president has power given him by congress under the plenary powers act to control immigration laws, or you don't understand what that means.

 

[bendog]

Gorsuch sides with liberals in Supreme Court ruling on deportation of violent immigrants

Sure, just because they are illegal and commit crimes in no way means they need to be deported?

Really?

I knew this was coming.

Conservatives fooled again. There is no such thing as a conservative in the US Federal government.

It's not about party. Even when one disagrees. I thought it sort of interesting that Scalia may well have done the same thing.

 

[Camp]

Completely and totally wrong. The post is a Constitutional Law fail. Read the 14th Amendment.

Sorry... you're full of shit.

You did not look up the 14th Amendment, or if you did, do not understand what the word jurisdiction means.

You didn't read where I posted that the president has power given him by congress under the plenary powers act to control immigration laws, or you don't understand what that means.

No Act or legislative law or executive order supersedes a ruling by SCOTUS. Your mumbo jumbo interpretations of judicial law are painfully uneducated and fall into the realm of nonsense.

 

[bendog]

Completely and totally wrong. The post is a Constitutional Law fail. Read the 14th Amendment.

Sorry... you're full of shit.

You did not look up the 14th Amendment, or if you did, do not understand what the word jurisdiction means.

You didn't read where I posted that the president has power given him by congress under the plenary powers act to control immigration laws, or you don't understand what that means.

No Act or legislative law or executive order supersedes a ruling by SCOTUS. Your mumbo jumbo interpretations of judicial law are painfully uneducated and fall into the realm of nonsense.

It's mumbo jumbo. To the extent there's plenary power, consular decisions such as who gets a visa, aren't judicially reviewed. Scalia did vote that a person without the legal right to stay here had no right to challenge indefinite detention.
Zadvydas v. Davis - Wikipedia

But that had nothing to do with plenary power.

007 seems to think that Congress can pass laws making judicial review impossible to consider whether the gummit has the power to do something. The constitution says the exec branch decides consular issues, but decisions by INS Courts of deportation are another matter.

As you said, this decision simply was about whether a law was so vague a person couldn't tell what was and wasn't a crime for deportation.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The law as it is written says it has to be a violent crime.

The SCOTUS correctly ruled that the law was too vague and needs to be fixed.

Now, it is on Congress to do their job.

Why do all you statist want the courts to ignore the law as it is written

And, THAT folks is the CORRECT ruling.

The majority of CORRECT Supreme Court rulings should conclude with "it is on Congress to act."

 

[bendog]

The law as it is written says it has to be a violent crime.

The SCOTUS correctly ruled that the law was too vague and needs to be fixed.

Now, it is on Congress to do their job.

Why do all you statist want the courts to ignore the law as it is written

And, THAT folks is the CORRECT ruling.

The majority of CORRECT Supreme Court rulings should conclude with "it is on Congress to act."

Well in some instances they may conclude Congress doesn't have the power to do X

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Well in some instances they may conclude Congress doesn't have the power to do X

That too.

Like, Congress has no power to enact gun laws (2nd Amendment).

 

[Crixus]

Gorsuch sides with liberals in Supreme Court ruling on deportation of violent immigrants

Sure, just because they are illegal and commit crimes in no way means they need to be deported?

Really?

I knew this was coming.

Conservatives fooled again. There is no such thing as a conservative in the US Federal government.

The judges only ruled on the law. It is a vague law that needs to b addressed by law makers. Address what the vague parts are. Problem solved.

 

[hjmick]

The decision isn't really as big of a deal as folks are making it...

The left and the media are exploiting it in an effort to make Trump hay, and the Trump supporters are twisting because they can't believe Gorsuch could betray the dear leader... Shouldn't be long before Trump starts Tweeting about seeking Gorsuch's resignation...


The truth of the matter is simple, the whole thing turned on a decision from 2015 that struck down a similarly worded part of another federal law that imposed longer prison sentences on repeat criminals. The majority opinion in that case was one of the last written by Justice Antonin Scalia...

 

[miketx]

Gorsuch told them to learn how to talk.

 

[Crixus]

The decision isn't really as big of a deal as folks are making it...

The left and the media are exploiting it in an effort to make Trump hay, and the Trump supporters are twisting because they can't believe Gorsuch could betray the dear leader... Shouldn't be long before Trump starts Tweeting about seeking Gorsuch's resignation...


The truth of the matter is simple, the whole thing turned on a decision from 2015 that struck down a similarly worded part of another federal law that imposed longer prison sentences on repeat criminals. The majority opinion in that case was one of the last written by Justice Antonin Scalia...

Yeah, but that’s not interesting at all. Better to argue and fight about it.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

And Dimocrats are ecstatic that their criminal illegals will get to stay.

 

[Pete7469]

Gorsuch sides with liberals in Supreme Court ruling on deportation of violent immigrants

Sure, just because they are illegal and commit crimes in no way means they need to be deported?

Really?

I knew this was coming.

Conservatives fooled again. There is no such thing as a conservative in the US Federal government.

I read his reasoning, when laws are written vaguely, then retarded judges (read: liberal) can fuck up the intention of the law in favor of criminals or the government. (Which can be both as we are aware).

Take the Lautenberg Amendment. It is used as harshly as possible so that anyone who pleads down on a charge of MISDEMEANOR DV still ends up FOREVER disqualified from touching weapons or ammo, even if the case is adjudicated as Disorderly Conduct. The court can deliberately strike the domestic or family violence element from the adjudication, but if there is a guilty verdict as a result, you better not have a career that requires the possession or even proximity to weapons. The only way a MDV case can not be used to disqualify you is if it is legally considered dismissed or expunged.

A FELONY DV charge is not covered. If you nearly kill your EX, or even actually kill them, you can actually get your rights back easier than if they accuse you of slapping them, you're arrested and the charge is not wiped out entirely.

IANAL, but I have had to do a lot of research about it because of how many military people are DQ'd and the cases have to be researched to find any element of DV no matter how vague.

Any vagueness in the law is supposed to benefit the citizen. Thousands of people can testify that you're lucky when a judge or prosecutor gives the accused the slightest benefit of the doubt. I prefer laws that are overturned, pretty much no matter what they are until specific parameters are outlined so that moonbat activist judges can not do what they have done with that horrible Lautenberg law.

 

[2aguy]

Gorsuch sides with liberals in Supreme Court ruling on deportation of violent immigrants

Sure, just because they are illegal and commit crimes in no way means they need to be deported?

Really?

I knew this was coming.

Conservatives fooled again. There is no such thing as a conservative in the US Federal government.

Don't jump to conclusions....Gorsuch isn't siding with the dems so much as siding with the Constitution...this should scare the left ....... he actually understands and believes in the Constitution.....

We need to replace ginsburg, kennedy and breyer, then we need to bring up gun cases...

Gorsuch wrote that "no one should be surprised that the Constitution looks unkindly on any law so vague that reasonable people cannot understand its terms and judges do not know where to begin in applying it."

 

[2aguy]

And Dimocrats are ecstatic that their criminal illegals will get to stay.

Their ecstasy won't last...because he actually understands the Constitution and plans on enforcing it...that is the left wing nightmare....

 

[2aguy]

Gorsuch sides with liberals in Supreme Court ruling on deportation of violent immigrants

Sure, just because they are illegal and commit crimes in no way means they need to be deported?

Really?

I knew this was coming.

Conservatives fooled again. There is no such thing as a conservative in the US Federal government.

Now....exchange ilegal immigrants for stupid assault weapon bans....where they just make up crap so they can ban anything they want...

now read this again...


Gorsuch wrote that "no one should be surprised that the Constitution looks unkindly on any law so vague that reasonable people cannot understand its terms and judges do not know where to begin in applying it."