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So there would be poor people in a true communist society?Why don't you lay off the sauce before starting any more topics.But there wouldnt be any poor in a true communist society, correct?Translation: "Let the poor eat cake."Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
Why do some of you get so defensive when the word communism comes up? Do you think its the boogey man or something?
Did i say someone was?So there would be poor people in a true communist society?Why don't you lay off the sauce before starting any more topics.But there wouldnt be any poor in a true communist society, correct?Translation: "Let the poor eat cake."Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
Why do some of you get so defensive when the word communism comes up? Do you think its the boogey man or something?
Ummmm....who is proposing communism?
Did i say someone was?So there would be poor people in a true communist society?Why don't you lay off the sauce before starting any more topics.But there wouldnt be any poor in a true communist society, correct?Translation: "Let the poor eat cake."
Why do some of you get so defensive when the word communism comes up? Do you think its the boogey man or something?
Ummmm....who is proposing communism?
I asked a question relevant to the ideology. Im sorry if you cant answer it.
A lot of defence for communism but only a couple answers to the OP
like slavery?Did i say someone was?So there would be poor people in a true communist society?Why don't you lay off the sauce before starting any more topics.But there wouldnt be any poor in a true communist society, correct?
Why do some of you get so defensive when the word communism comes up? Do you think its the boogey man or something?
Ummmm....who is proposing communism?
I asked a question relevant to the ideology. Im sorry if you cant answer it.
A lot of defence for communism but only a couple answers to the OP
Kind of missed the boat....like 30 years since this topic was relevant
richard says i dont understand economics and philosophy but he calls USSR and China communist
They were socialist man. There wasnt anything communist about them.richard says i dont understand economics and philosophy but he calls USSR and China communist
That's weird because the entire western civilization calls them communist.
If your restricting your conversation to pure Utopian communism and strictly lobster and tenderloin, and don't think that a discussion of political philosophies or economic is relevant, then you a total idiot!
The OP was about communism and lobster, you big dummy.The OP has apparently retreated from the implications of his OP since those has been debunked.
Now he want the discussion to only include utopian communism and lobster.
Did he really think that there were a whole lot of lobster & tenderloin eating utopian communists on this message board?
The communist society presupposes the ability of cooperative society to produce commodities in sufficient numbers to supply the population.Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
I love it! Crab, lobster, shark, shrimp, scallops, octopus, squid, oysters, fishLobster is nasty thoI love just about everything that comes out of the ocean. At least what i have eaten so far lol
mmmmm im hungry!
Hey Swifty. Socialism and communism are two separate things . I know you meatheads get scared because they kinda sound the same .
SO answer my question on where I can find all these commies!!!
I thought money was to be abolished in the transitionThe communist society presupposes the ability of cooperative society to produce commodities in sufficient numbers to supply the population.Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
Currency is not to be abolished in communist society. Value is an important aspect of Marx's writings and being able to trade things of equal value would require currency of some form.
Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
How did you form that thought?I thought money was to be abolished in the transitionThe communist society presupposes the ability of cooperative society to produce commodities in sufficient numbers to supply the population.Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
Currency is not to be abolished in communist society. Value is an important aspect of Marx's writings and being able to trade things of equal value would require currency of some form.
Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.How did you form that thought?I thought money was to be abolished in the transitionThe communist society presupposes the ability of cooperative society to produce commodities in sufficient numbers to supply the population.Who gets to eat lobster and beef tenderloin?
This doesnt have to be about food. It can be about anything that is "classy" or what have you. Because, you know, it calls for no currency..
I am truly stumped :/
Currency is not to be abolished in communist society. Value is an important aspect of Marx's writings and being able to trade things of equal value would require currency of some form.
Marx was certainly critical of the form money takes in a capitalist society. See here;
The Power of Money, Marx, 1844
But how will commodities be exchanged in society without a currency representative of the value contained in the production of the commodities?
The communist society presupposes...
Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.
Engels wrote that.
That kind explains all your questions. I seem to remember Marc talking about labor vouchers or something? Can't remember exactly but that was to serve as a sort of fiat currency. It has no currency value.
That model is old and doesn't fit today's market.Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.
Engels wrote that.
That kind explains all your questions. I seem to remember Marc talking about labor vouchers or something? Can't remember exactly but that was to serve as a sort of fiat currency. It has no currency value.
They cannot calculate without market prices. Without property owners voluntarily trading their property with other property owners, market prices cannot exist. Therefore there can be no winners or losers. Meaning that there can be no profit and there can be no loss. Without profits and losses, government has no clue as to whether or not they're allocating resources in the right places. As a consequence, the system will implode.
Amateur commies are amateur. Haha
