Government bribes Nissan to stay after Brexit.

[Alex.]

Nissan row as government denies 'secret deal' to support Sunderland factory post-Brexit

I have some sympathy with them. They would not have welcomed having to deal with this so soon. Nissan have played hardball and got a deal. No doubt all the other car makers will be queuing up for a similar deal.

The question must be how much this foolish brexit decision is going to cost the taxpayer to maintain a status quo we had for nothing in the past.

Will we have to subsidise the whole of British industry in order to mitigate the damage.

Yep, Britain is now free and will have to pay companies to stay in the company. So instead of that 350 million going to the NHS it'll go to big corporations (well except that there isn't any of that money left seeing as it's all gone in the pound dropping like a streaker's trousers.

"Taking back control" at its best !!

You Remoaners need to quit your sissy whining and negativity, accept that YOU LOST, and get behind the UK.
It's utterly sickening how you are wishing misery on thousands of families just so you can whine about Brexit some more, boyo. Try to take it like a man!

Tilly: "Try to take it like a man! "

He already takes it like a man, that is not at issue.

 

[Tilly]

Nissan row as government denies 'secret deal' to support Sunderland factory post-Brexit

I have some sympathy with them. They would not have welcomed having to deal with this so soon. Nissan have played hardball and got a deal. No doubt all the other car makers will be queuing up for a similar deal.

The question must be how much this foolish brexit decision is going to cost the taxpayer to maintain a status quo we had for nothing in the past.

Will we have to subsidise the whole of British industry in order to mitigate the damage.

Yep, Britain is now free and will have to pay companies to stay in the company. So instead of that 350 million going to the NHS it'll go to big corporations (well except that there isn't any of that money left seeing as it's all gone in the pound dropping like a streaker's trousers.

"Taking back control" at its best !!

You Remoaners need to quit your sissy whining and negativity, accept that YOU LOST, and get behind the UK.
It's utterly sickening how you are wishing misery on thousands of families just so you can whine about Brexit some more, boyo. Try to take it like a man!

Tilly: "Try to take it like a man! "

He already takes it like a man, that is not at issue.

Of course! How could I forget

 

[montelatici]

WTO rules place a 10% tariff on automobile imports. 80% of Nissan's UK production goes to the EU. In the price sensitive consumer car market 10% is more than the dealer's profit.

This upcoming competitive disadvantage was concerning car companies with production facilities in the UK. Nissan indicated that they would not be investing in the Sunderland plant at the beginning of the month. After receiving assurances, in writing, (a letter was sent) Nissan decided to go ahead with the investment in Sunderland.

So let's see. What could the assurances have been? You tell us.

 

[montelatici]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

 

[Phoenall]

Nissan row as government denies 'secret deal' to support Sunderland factory post-Brexit

I have some sympathy with them. They would not have welcomed having to deal with this so soon. Nissan have played hardball and got a deal. No doubt all the other car makers will be queuing up for a similar deal.

The question must be how much this foolish brexit decision is going to cost the taxpayer to maintain a status quo we had for nothing in the past.

Will we have to subsidise the whole of British industry in order to mitigate the damage.

Yep, Britain is now free and will have to pay companies to stay in the company. So instead of that 350 million going to the NHS it'll go to big corporations (well except that there isn't any of that money left seeing as it's all gone in the pound dropping like a streaker's trousers.

"Taking back control" at its best !!

You Remoaners need to quit your sissy whining and negativity, accept that YOU LOST, and get behind the UK.
It's utterly sickening how you are wishing misery on thousands of families just so you can whine about Brexit some more, boyo. Try to take it like a man!

They are now called project Fear because that is what they are trying to spread, the lost the vote, they LIED afterwards and now they are spreading fear based on half truths and fantasies. If they hate it so much why dont they leave and go to Europe and see how good it is.

 

[Phoenall]

WTO rules place a 10% tariff on automobile imports. 80% of Nissan's UK production goes to the EU. In the price sensitive consumer car market 10% is more than the dealer's profit.

This upcoming competitive disadvantage was concerning car companies with production facilities in the UK. Nissan indicated that they would not be investing in the Sunderland plant at the beginning of the month. After receiving assurances, in writing, (a letter was sent) Nissan decided to go ahead with the investment in Sunderland.

So let's see. What could the assurances have been? You tell us.

And how will Citroen, BMW, Mercedes and the other European companies complete in a wider world when their cars also see a 10% or more tariff on their cars.

That there would be no tariff placed on their cars as BMW could not afford to sell cars in Britain if there was. And closure would mean the government would foreclose on all the grants and loans sending shockwaves all the way to Kyoto and Brussels

 

[Phoenall]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Or would cost the EU 14,400,000,000 in trade money, a deficit they could never recover when South Africa has told them to stick their trade deals. Along with China, Russia, Canada, US and some smaller nations.

Always turn the deal on its head to see what the other side would lose and you see the truth, it is just bully boy tactics and the EU is losing. They cant afford to lose any trade at the moment as they are stalling due to the open borders policy and the migrant crisis. The next round of national elections will see massive changes in Europe with Austria looking to coming out along with some of the newer Eastern Europe nations. Your planned neo marxist utopian society is dead in the water and it took islamonazi terrorism to show the people which way you were heading.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

 

[Phoenall]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

Until it is shown to be another Project Fear LIE and then it unhinges the whole plan. And you are shown to be one of lifes biggest losers. You only have a few short months to leave and get domicile status in Europe before the EU closes the border.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

Until it is shown to be another Project Fear LIE and then it unhinges the whole plan. And you are shown to be one of lifes biggest losers. You only have a few short months to leave and get domicile status in Europe before the EU closes the border.

How is it a lie you fucking clown ?

 

[montelatici]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

Cant see that happening.
Apple hikes MacBook and iMac prices by 20pc in response to post-Brexit sterling fall

 

[Phoenall]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

Until it is shown to be another Project Fear LIE and then it unhinges the whole plan. And you are shown to be one of lifes biggest losers. You only have a few short months to leave and get domicile status in Europe before the EU closes the border.

How is it a lie you fucking clown ?

Because it isnt true and you know it. Here is the truth from none other than nissan

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/nissan-opts-build-car-model-sunderland-095100642.html?vp=1

A No 10 spokesman later insisted there was no "compensation package" or "special deal" done with Nissan to secure the investment.

"What was made clear to Nissan and to others in the automotive industry is that what we want is a competitive environment for the whole of the industry," he said.

Nissan also clarified it had not been given special treatment.

It had earlier announced it would build its next-generation Qashqai and add production of the new X-Trail model at Britain's biggest car plant, securing more than 7,000 jobs and 28,000 more in the supply chain.

Mr Ghosen said: "I welcome British Prime Minister Theresa May's commitment to the automotive industry in Britain and to the development of an overall industrial strategy."

 

[Phoenall]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

Most of the parts for nissan cars are made in the UK by British companies, that is why there are 21,000 indirect employees of nissan. And yiou could see apple go out of business in the UK the way they are hiking prices, and they cant blame brexit for their own greed

 

[Phoenall]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

Cant see that happening.
Apple hikes MacBook and iMac prices by 20pc in response to post-Brexit sterling fall

So machines built before the referendum have gone up in price, does this mean when the pound goes back up they will come down in price or will they go up again. Only morons like tainted will be suckered by this one

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

Cant see that happening.
Apple hikes MacBook and iMac prices by 20pc in response to post-Brexit sterling fall

So machines built before the referendum have gone up in price, does this mean when the pound goes back up they will come down in price or will they go up again. Only morons like tainted will be suckered by this one

There is only one moron here.

The pound is at 31 year low and Microsoft is raising prices by 22 per cent

Nestlé could be the next company to increase its prices after Brexit

Your food bills could be set to increase after the pound plunges post-Brexit

Tesco boss says prices will rise following Brexit slump in pound

Vauxhall, Ford, Honda and Suzuki raise prices post-Brexit | Autocar

Dell confirms price rise post Brexit vote as UK pound stumbles

Wine prices 'could rise by 29p' post-Brexit

School meal costs increase due to 'post Brexit' inflation

Mountain Warehouse says prices will rise due to weak pound and shelves float | This is Money

Bacon butty prices soar as post Brexit demand from China increases | Eat Out Magazine

https://www.cips.org/supply-managem...expect-supply-chain-costs-to-rise-on-brexit1/

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...creases-prices-10-per-cent-brexit-vote-266667

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/...entre-community-as-currency-fluctuations-bite

http://www.therecycler.com/posts/hp-inc-increases-uk-prices-due-to-brexit/

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...te-deals-blow-camera-prices-set-rise-15-86029

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Let the good times roll.....................................

Standard and Poor's says UK's credit rating could be downgraded further amid Brexit uncertainty

 

[Phoenall]

Just a quick calculation, it's not rocket science.

This plant is to build 600K cars a year so.

80% of 600,000 = 480,000 going to the EU

assume the average value of the cars is 30K euro so the value subject to tariff would 480,000 cars times 30,000 per car, or 14,400,000,000 (more than 14 billion euro!). A 10% compensation (to allow Nissan to maintain competitiveness) to Nissan alone will cost the UK taxpayer 1,400,000,000 per year. Covering the lost competitiveness for all the manufacturing of automobiles in the UK will be a heck of an expense for the UK taxpayer, that's for sure.

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

Cant see that happening.
Apple hikes MacBook and iMac prices by 20pc in response to post-Brexit sterling fall

So machines built before the referendum have gone up in price, does this mean when the pound goes back up they will come down in price or will they go up again. Only morons like tainted will be suckered by this one

There is only one moron here.

The pound is at 31 year low and Microsoft is raising prices by 22 per cent

Nestlé could be the next company to increase its prices after Brexit

Your food bills could be set to increase after the pound plunges post-Brexit

Tesco boss says prices will rise following Brexit slump in pound

Vauxhall, Ford, Honda and Suzuki raise prices post-Brexit | Autocar

Dell confirms price rise post Brexit vote as UK pound stumbles

Wine prices 'could rise by 29p' post-Brexit

School meal costs increase due to 'post Brexit' inflation

Mountain Warehouse says prices will rise due to weak pound and shelves float | This is Money

Bacon butty prices soar as post Brexit demand from China increases | Eat Out Magazine

Expect supply chain costs to rise on Brexit - Supply Management

Raleigh increases prices by 10 per cent after Brexit vote - Cycling Weekly

Post-Brexit price hikes hit cloud and datacentre community, as currency fluctuations bite

HP Inc increases UK prices due to Brexit | The Recycler

Brexit vote deals blow as camera prices set to rise by up to ‘15%’ - Amateur Photographer

All members of Project Fear that want to see cheap foriegn labour so they can make more money. Then when the going gets tough they close down and move to Eastern Europe.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its grim isnt it ? I think that you can add Vauxhall and Toyota to that list as well as Honda, Ford and Jaguar.
This one bribe completely destroys any brexit argument.

And, you get some of these pro-exit nutters that claim that the pound will drop so much that the lower labor costs will cover the tariff, but that is wishing for much poorer Brits. A 2,000 pound iPhone 7, for example.

And, they forget that the materials, parts and components that make up a car are mostly imported from overseas, and their cost will go up vis-a-vis the lower pound.

Cant see that happening.
Apple hikes MacBook and iMac prices by 20pc in response to post-Brexit sterling fall

So machines built before the referendum have gone up in price, does this mean when the pound goes back up they will come down in price or will they go up again. Only morons like tainted will be suckered by this one

There is only one moron here.

The pound is at 31 year low and Microsoft is raising prices by 22 per cent

Nestlé could be the next company to increase its prices after Brexit

Your food bills could be set to increase after the pound plunges post-Brexit

Tesco boss says prices will rise following Brexit slump in pound

Vauxhall, Ford, Honda and Suzuki raise prices post-Brexit | Autocar

Dell confirms price rise post Brexit vote as UK pound stumbles

Wine prices 'could rise by 29p' post-Brexit

School meal costs increase due to 'post Brexit' inflation

Mountain Warehouse says prices will rise due to weak pound and shelves float | This is Money

Bacon butty prices soar as post Brexit demand from China increases | Eat Out Magazine

Expect supply chain costs to rise on Brexit - Supply Management

Raleigh increases prices by 10 per cent after Brexit vote - Cycling Weekly

Post-Brexit price hikes hit cloud and datacentre community, as currency fluctuations bite

HP Inc increases UK prices due to Brexit | The Recycler

Brexit vote deals blow as camera prices set to rise by up to ‘15%’ - Amateur Photographer

All members of Project Fear that want to see cheap foriegn labour so they can make more money. Then when the going gets tough they close down and move to Eastern Europe.

Yup - you are a fucking mentalist. Get some help you sad fuck.

 

[Phoenall]

Let the good times roll.....................................

Standard and Poor's says UK's credit rating could be downgraded further amid Brexit uncertainty

You do know what COULd means dont you, it means it is not set in stone .

You are caught out so easily by the loud noises made by Project Fear that gave themselves away. Why dont you just pack your bags and leave while you still have the chance, or are you afraid your British welfare will be taken away when you do and you lose your NHS treatment.