Green New Deal

Love that AOC addressed meat and dairy as a huge contributor to greenhouse gases. Eating less animal products a great way to help our planet, not to mention the animals!
 
Control can also mean regulation, dumbass dupe. Like every intelligent rich country in the world that doesn't have greedy idiot GOP dupes running things... Everywhere outside your bubble of stupid ignorance and garbage propaganda, socialism is defined as well regulated capitalism with a good safety net. "We are all socialists now!" --Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed... Guess what shithead dupe? Everyone in the world but you brainwashed jackasses who deny global warming and progressive taxation know what socialism is since people found out the USSR was a totalitarian scam. Most successful modern countries have socialist parties and none of them thinks socialism is communism. Wake up and smell the coffee. Only the brainwashed GOP morons...

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No you ignorant and uneducated sot, socialism is not capitalism of any form.

Capitalism is based on a free market. Prices are determined by supply and demand. Now you're in my backyard. Arguing economics with me is very dumb, as you have found on dozens of occasions.

The issue we have is that you lack a grasp of the most basic and fundamental concepts. I speak of the market, but you have no idea what that means. Simply put, a market is an exchange of value for value. The seller will relinquish goods if the value of money offered is greater TO HIM than the value of his good. The buyer will offer cash if the goods are of greater value TO HIM than the cash. No one save the buyer and seller have input into what the value of the goods are. Price then follows the judgement of buyers and sellers.

I teach freshmen who grasp these concepts, but YOU fucking don't, regardless of how many times and how basic I explain it to you. Under socialism, the GOVERNMENT is the only entity that decides value. The market is perverted. Under Communism the market is eradicated. Any system where an entity other than the buyer or seller set the price of goods is NOT capitalism.

Would it be socialism if we taxed millionaires and billionaires at 70%?:)

No, just insanely stupid.

I get it, a thriving economy ensures Trump wins reelection in 2020. You leftists are desperate to throw the breaks on the economy. America suffering is democrats winning.
Based on what.

Based on what? Pull your head out of your rear. Based on all the "progress" Democrats have made in the last two years.

Democrats did what the past two years? How did they throw the BRAKES on our economy? Trying to stop borrowing 1.5 trillion ifor an unfunded tax cut?
 
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No you ignorant and uneducated sot, socialism is not capitalism of any form.

Capitalism is based on a free market. Prices are determined by supply and demand. Now you're in my backyard. Arguing economics with me is very dumb, as you have found on dozens of occasions.

The issue we have is that you lack a grasp of the most basic and fundamental concepts. I speak of the market, but you have no idea what that means. Simply put, a market is an exchange of value for value. The seller will relinquish goods if the value of money offered is greater TO HIM than the value of his good. The buyer will offer cash if the goods are of greater value TO HIM than the cash. No one save the buyer and seller have input into what the value of the goods are. Price then follows the judgement of buyers and sellers.

I teach freshmen who grasp these concepts, but YOU fucking don't, regardless of how many times and how basic I explain it to you. Under socialism, the GOVERNMENT is the only entity that decides value. The market is perverted. Under Communism the market is eradicated. Any system where an entity other than the buyer or seller set the price of goods is NOT capitalism.

Would it be socialism if we taxed millionaires and billionaires at 70%?:)

No, just insanely stupid.

I get it, a thriving economy ensures Trump wins reelection in 2020. You leftists are desperate to throw the breaks on the economy. America suffering is democrats winning.
Based on what.

Based on what? Pull your head out of your rear. Based on all the "progress" Democrats have made in the last two years.

Democrats did what the past two years? How did they throw the BRAKES on our economy? Trying to stop borrowing 1.5 trillion ifor an unfunded tax cut?

If they spent only half the time and effort they spent on obstructing Trump they may have made some progress.
 
  • Global Warming: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Income Inequality: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Guranteed Income: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Free Universal Healthcare: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • The New Green Deal: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Paris Climate Accord: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Calling Hydrocarbons Fossil Fuels: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Universal Free College Education: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Open Borders Open Immigration: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Sanctuary Cities: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Adhering to United Nations Protocols, Policies, Treaties or Mandates: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Granting Asylum to Cultures unable to and unwilling to assimilate in to US Culture: Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
  • Signing and abiding by so called Free Trade Agreements instead of negotiating as a Sovereign Nation on a one on one basis for "Fair Trade" : Vehicle to Install Socialism and Global Rule
More horseshit. Do you ever not lie? I am serious here. Who wants open borders? Certainly when Obama was in office & Democrats controlled both houses, they could have passed a bill to demolish border walls & check points.

I get it. You assfucks want unfettered capitalism as if corporations can be trusted. We can trust them not to pollute, not to dump waste in our rivers, not to create dangerous workplaces, to produce products that are safe to use, to not discriminate. This is what you assfucks want? Really?

Do you assfucks even know we live on a planet? That we can not survive alone as a country without interactions with other nations? Do you really want to capture a market of 330 million people while sacrificing a 6 billion person market? Are you really that fucking dumb?

The fact is that you & your ilk are uneducated, ignorant, easily duped sheep that follow idiots like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Mindwars, & the conman Trump.
 
Would it be socialism if we taxed millionaires and billionaires at 70%?:)

No, just insanely stupid.

I get it, a thriving economy ensures Trump wins reelection in 2020. You leftists are desperate to throw the breaks on the economy. America suffering is democrats winning.
Based on what.

Based on what? Pull your head out of your rear. Based on all the "progress" Democrats have made in the last two years.

Democrats did what the past two years? How did they throw the BRAKES on our economy? Trying to stop borrowing 1.5 trillion ifor an unfunded tax cut?

If they spent only half the time and effort they spent on obstructing Trump they may have made some progress.
Democrats would have gone along with a properly funded infrastructure bill. Jobs bill, help to our veterans, etc.

But noooooooo your assfuck party wasted two years trying to end Obamacare.
 
Your problem is you are brainwashed. You believe more in this climate change thing than God himself. You really think that a planet that's possibly hundreds of millions years old can rely on temperature changes that took place the past couple hundreds of years, and say that those changes are indicative of something.

Let me ask: how many factories were there at the end of the ice age? How many cars were around at that time?

If green anything were able to produce the jobs, the energy, the results you think, private industry would have capitalized on it decades ago. You wouldn't need government promoting or subsidizing it. But the facts are that we are not going to put our country in such a hole that it can't ever dig out because of you (and your ilk) beliefs.

So tell me, how many windmills do you have on your property? How many times a year do you use mass transit? How many times do you use your electric car? I would be willing to bet you don't participate in any of those things. Instead, you want government to force everybody else to.


I think what you don't realize is that a very small change in the average temperature of the earth by only a few degrees Celsius can create major changes in the environment. It has risen only about 4 degrees in the last million years but .7 degree in less than a century. For example, just a few degrees average rise in the sea temperature would eradicate thousands of species including oysters, crab, and coral which in turn would disrupt the food supply for a host of small creatures which are the food source for many of fish that humans and other creatures depend on.

The huge cost of dealing with climate change is nothing compared to the cost of doing nothing.


I guess that depends on who you ask.

Nocookies

2018 was the fourth-warmest year on record behind 2016, 2015 and 2017. Even more concerning, the World Methodological Organization predicts a 5- to 9-degree temperature rise by the end of the century.
A picture is worth a thousand words.

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As you know, ten years is weather not climate anything.

Ten years is less than a heartbeat when discussing "Climate Change". Why do you post such silly things?


In 2005, Al Gore said that in 10 years coastal cities are going to be under water.

Funny, none of the leftists agreeing with him, none of the Hollywood that gave him and Oscar, none of the politicians moved from the coasts due to the threat. In fact, CNN even moved their headquarters from inland to New York, and still preaching the same.

Could
 
and you don't believe in global warming so your opinion, actually brainwashed garbage, makes your opinion worthless.
Some of us prefer to look at the actual science behind claims as opposed to sheepishly getting in line at the slaughter house.
No denier has looked at the science.
The simple fact that you use the term "denier", speaks volumes.A more apt term would be skeptic. Any scientist that isn't skeptical has no place in science.
The deniers are not scientist

Actually, the original deniers are scientists that didn't agree with political agenda, fake program models and cooking data.
When they were funded bu=y Big Oil, etc, they have no credibility. Who cooked data?
 
Let me try to summarize the left's position on climate change.

They claim that man made pollution of the air is causing the climate of the planet to change and they want us (the USA) to stop using fossil fuels in order to save the planet and that if we don't do it right now the planet will end in 12 years.

Facts: USA is a very small polluter compared to China and India
Nothing we do in this country will change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere
CO2 is not a pollutant, it is a natural gas that plants need to survive
CO2 has made up .039% of the atmosphere for all of recorded history and is at that same level today
Humans do put crap in the air and water that degrades the quality of our planet

Questions: Why cant liberals focus on stopping pollution? Why isn't that enough? Why do they think they need the fake link between pollution and climate in order to fight pollution?

Conclusion: Mine: Its not about pollution or climate, its about the liberal desire to control the activities of other people and to punish them if they deviate form norms set by the radical left.
You fact was wrong.

We need to act within 12 years. Dumbass.

The planet w=ill ,live on. your offspring (God Forbid there are any) will have a more difficult lifel
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But hey , fuck those kids, right?

The Paris Accord got most nations on board to cut emissions. Not just the US. The US is a major emitter so our reductions will make a difference.

CO2 is important to plants. Studies have shown that more CO2 can help plants grow better but they also show that they do not hsave the same nutrient concentrations. More C)2 causing higher temps & some plants, like corn, loses a percent of its production with every degree day over 95. Itv is estimated that with our current level of agriculture that AGW would cut the output by 37% in a time of increasing pop[ulation.

The amount of CO2 has risen to over 400 pmm. This increases the greenhouse gas effect.

Your orange POS you elected is cutting clean air & water regulations.

AGW is real. We have a solution. A solution that would protect the futire of our children. But noooooooooo. Your stupidity, ignorance & outright lying, will not allow this to happen. Fossil Fuel industry has duped you so much, you are gladly willing to crap on your own children & grandchildren. That is pathetic. You are pathetc
 
No, just insanely stupid.

I get it, a thriving economy ensures Trump wins reelection in 2020. You leftists are desperate to throw the breaks on the economy. America suffering is democrats winning.
Based on what.

Based on what? Pull your head out of your rear. Based on all the "progress" Democrats have made in the last two years.

Democrats did what the past two years? How did they throw the BRAKES on our economy? Trying to stop borrowing 1.5 trillion ifor an unfunded tax cut?

If they spent only half the time and effort they spent on obstructing Trump they may have made some progress.
Democrats would have gone along with a properly funded infrastructure bill. Jobs bill, help to our veterans, etc.

But noooooooo your assfuck party wasted two years trying to end Obamacare.

I just heard, "Democrats would have gone along with anything that gave them exactly what they wanted. It's your fault for not just giving in to them."
 
folks round here in Indiana think global warming is a HOAX!
climate change happens, regardless.

what is your opinion of upgrading some existing underground cities for modern times?

We did it before with HUD. Then Democrats made underground cities out of them.
I mean prehistoric Cities that our current understanding of evolution, claims have no basis to exist.

More optimal conduits to deliver energy and potable and waste water management could make those underground cities more livable in modern times. Some Good Capitalist with a petty cash fund available for such purposes, could pursue an exploratory venture.
 
climate change happens, regardless.

what is your opinion of upgrading some existing underground cities for modern times?
The total dupes of the GOP propaganda machine, anyway.... The only people in the world who don't believe in global warming at this point...
the Science of Astronomy, gainsays their opinion. Ice Ages are cyclial and related to Earth's tilt toward the sun.
WOW, You better phone the climatolists & tell them because I am sure they don't know about the planets history or that the Earth has a tilt.

Thank you for being soooooooo smart.
The point is, Climate Change happens, Regardless. Why not develop better technologies at lower cost to better cope with it.

"at lower cost"

LOL

With $50 trillion price tag. Who's going to do it, the government?
yes; or, we can raise the minimum wage until the Poor can afford to pay their share.
 
the green big deal is an attempt to implement Mao's Great Leap Forward, with high speed rail instead of backyard steel mills. one cannot overestimate the disaster that would follow if this were forced upon America
 
The total dupes of the GOP propaganda machine, anyway.... The only people in the world who don't believe in global warming at this point...
the Science of Astronomy, gainsays their opinion. Ice Ages are cyclial and related to Earth's tilt toward the sun.
WOW, You better phone the climatolists & tell them because I am sure they don't know about the planets history or that the Earth has a tilt.

Thank you for being soooooooo smart.
The point is, Climate Change happens, Regardless. Why not develop better technologies at lower cost to better cope with it.

"at lower cost"

LOL

With $50 trillion price tag. Who's going to do it, the government?
yes; or, we can raise the minimum wage until the Poor can afford to pay their share.
That will never happen. The poor will stay poor because the cost of living will rise to the new level. In 1976 I started my first job at $1.85 a hour. Minimum wage. I can buy the equivalent amount of stuff for the minimum wage today.
 
With climate change, what will your city's weather feel like in 60 years? - CNN

If we do nothing like the Trumpettes, here is an idea of what to expect 50-75 years from now.

You talk about the NGD's building renovations to curb AGW but if we do nothing, they will need done anyhow. Buildings in Colorado aren't built to take the warmer temps. Take NYC & make it 10 degrees warmer.
Still spreading the bullshit I see Dave. You ever see a libtard idea you didn't like?
 
the Science of Astronomy, gainsays their opinion. Ice Ages are cyclial and related to Earth's tilt toward the sun.
WOW, You better phone the climatolists & tell them because I am sure they don't know about the planets history or that the Earth has a tilt.

Thank you for being soooooooo smart.
The point is, Climate Change happens, Regardless. Why not develop better technologies at lower cost to better cope with it.

"at lower cost"

LOL

With $50 trillion price tag. Who's going to do it, the government?
yes; or, we can raise the minimum wage until the Poor can afford to pay their share.
That will never happen. The poor will stay poor because the cost of living will rise to the new level. In 1976 I started my first job at $1.85 a hour. Minimum wage. I can buy the equivalent amount of stuff for the minimum wage today.
price inflation happens even without wages increasing.
 

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