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Round Two for Gun Control May Take a ?Next Newtown? - NationalJournal.com

A week after gun legislation suffered a stinging defeat in the Senate, an uncomfortable realization has settled over the Capitol that it will likely take another mass shooting or similar tragedy to reignite momentum for gun control.

To even think that is disgusting.......no wonder people think liberals are full of shit.

Now, at least, Democrats and their allies have a package of gun-control measures—led by the Manchin-Toomey proposal—ready to be enacted practically immediately. Reid can bring the failed background-checks effort back to the floor at almost any time.


yep always get people when they're weak....liberals are such predators....nowonder they let pedophiles out of jail.
 
Round Two for Gun Control May Take a ?Next Newtown? - NationalJournal.com

A week after gun legislation suffered a stinging defeat in the Senate, an uncomfortable realization has settled over the Capitol that it will likely take another mass shooting or similar tragedy to reignite momentum for gun control.

To even think that is disgusting.......no wonder people think liberals are full of shit.

Now, at least, Democrats and their allies have a package of gun-control measures—led by the Manchin-Toomey proposal—ready to be enacted practically immediately. Reid can bring the failed background-checks effort back to the floor at almost any time.


yep always get people when they're weak....liberals are such predators....nowonder they let pedophiles out of jail.



Some people just don't care as long as the ends justify the means.
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.
 
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Now, at least, Democrats and their allies have a package of gun-control measures—led by the Manchin-Toomey proposal—ready to be enacted practically immediately. Reid can bring the failed background-checks effort back to the floor at almost any time...

Gun control measures that will only control already law abiding citizens.

"Gun control" laws are not about controlling guns, they are about controlling people.


You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.


Really? All this statement tells me is that you really have no understanding of the law abiding people who own guns in this country.
 
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You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

Have the gun control laws in your country stopped any gun deaths? How's that violent crime doing? How many citizens of your country are victims to violent crimes compared to those in other countries?
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

Have the gun control laws in your country stopped any gun deaths? How's that violent crime doing? How many citizens of your country are victims to violent crimes compared to those in other countries?

We haven't had a single mass shooting since 1996, our homicide rates and suicide rates by firearm have dropped dramatically. Yes, gun control works.
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

How many times are you going to tell that lie?

That would be the same as if saying that anyone who drives a car supports drunk driving and doesn't give a shit about people killed by them.
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

Have the gun control laws in your country stopped any gun deaths? How's that violent crime doing? How many citizens of your country are victims to violent crimes compared to those in other countries?

We haven't had a single mass shooting since 1996, our homicide rates and suicide rates by firearm have dropped dramatically. Yes, gun control works.

I didn't ask you about your mass shootings I could care less about them because one murder by gun in a country that has strict gun control is just as bad as any mass shooting.
One dead is just as bad as 20 or 30 dead in a no gun allowed country.
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

That is a really cold, and untrue, thing to say. And I don't feel it's right to call all those who own guns "gun nuts."

I don't believe that anyone (save for heartless murderers and terrorists) want to see people get hurt or killed.

What it comes down to is finding solutions that actually work. The truth is, the people killed in these mass shootings by crazed gunmen are much fewer than those killed on a daily basis in Chicago, for instance. Roughly 535 have been killed by mass shooters in the last 30 years, while roughly the same number are killed annually in Chicago. Gun control did not reduce the murder rate to comfortable levels in Chicago and imposing gun control nationally will not reduce the number of people killed due to psychopaths.

It's about finding something that works. Considering that criminals and crazy people are not likely to pay any attention to laws, it is reasonable to ask how restricting the law abiding people will affect murder rates.

I was amazed watching footage of the Boston police as they sought the second bomber. Scores of police had assault rifles and they were after one guy. One single guy justified a small army of heavily armed police. He was dangerous.

He is no more or less dangerous than the thug or thugs who might be planning a home invasion on some innocent family. If police opt for assault weapons when going after a suspect, is it also reasonable for a private citizen to be as well armed in the event their home is invaded? There have been instances where gangs have broken into homes and killed entire families.

The world isn't exactly a safe place and, obviously, some places are more dangerous. Do we have the right to protect ourselves or not? Yes, we do, and should not be considered some kind of gun nut because we want to prevail in the event our home is violated by those who will do us harm.

There are current background checks and other laws in place. It's not true that anyone can walk into a gun show and purchase whatever they want without question. Putting notions like that out there are designed to scare people. Criminals do seem to have ways of getting their hands on weapons of all kinds and the laws are a long way from catching up to them.

Can we at least focus on the real danger and come up with real solutions to address it? This business of having feel good legislation doesn't make anyone safer and it could well be the first step in eventually disarming the entire public is wearing thin on those who understand it. That has been done so many times in the past and will happen again.
 
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You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

Yeah thats why the you want to hug the shooters....awwwww

I wish something would be done....a public hanging
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

That's completely untrue. I'm sorry you think that.

You know what's real sad? Politicians using dead kids as steps to get to the microphones.
 
Speeding laws don't stop all speeding - but they help.

Pollution laws don't stop all polluting - but they help.

Universal background checks won't stop all gun violence - but they will help.
 
You can have another mass shooting, larger than Sandy Hook, and still nothing will be done, because the gun nuts don't give a shit about innocent people being shot to death.

Do you know many gun nuts ?

I know quite a few people who own guns, myself included. None of us are nuts...

It's the noomi type method of labeling a whole demographic so as to further their agenda to implement gun control. It's totally irrelevant but they keep trying and continue to look stupid.
 
speeding laws don't stop all speeding - but they help.

Pollution laws don't stop all polluting - but they help.

Universal background checks won't stop all gun violence - but they will help.

we already have background checks.

You know that lie has been thoroughly debunked. We only have "partial" background checks - not universal background checks.
 
Most arguments have some semblance of reason to them, but the reality remains that America has a severe gun problem. I would never support the notion of disarming the public, but the pendulum is too far in the other direction, IMO.
 
speeding laws don't stop all speeding - but they help.

Pollution laws don't stop all polluting - but they help.

Universal background checks won't stop all gun violence - but they will help.

we already have background checks.

You know that lie has been thoroughly debunked. We only have "partial" background checks - not universal background checks.

Even if Obama and the other gun grabbers had gotten what they wanted, there still wouldn't be "Universal" background checks.

No matter what law you pass, criminals will not obey it and undergo a background check in order to get a gun. Being as they are Criminals, which means they don't obey laws in the first place.
 

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