Hamas: We are Not Terrorists; We Just Want to Destroy Israel <LOL!>

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

So, even if this applied, it can be applied in favor of the Israeli.

However, the High Contracting Parties are all in the Americas. It is a regional treaty. I doesn't apply to the Middle East, Europe, Asia/Pacific or Africa.

Just because there are entities that fail to recognize it's existence does not mean that it doesn't exist!

You can't make something disappear by choosing not to see it...


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So true.

ARTICLE 3

The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states. Even before recognition the state has the right to defend its integrity and independence,...

The Avalon Project : Convention on Rights and Duties of States (inter-American); December 26, 1933

(COMMENT)

Israel has a right to defend itself from Hostile Arab/Palestinian (HoAP) aggression, even if the HoAP does not recognize it.

I've seen HoAP aggressors raise this issue before. It is a case where the HoAP is trying to make the world believe that Palestine was a "state" before the International Community recognized Israel. An alternate history.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you keep basing your conclusions on false premise.

ARTICLE 1

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: a ) a permanent population; b ) a defined territory; c ) government; and d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

The Avalon Project : Convention on Rights and Duties of States (inter-American); December 26, 1933

Where does Israel stand?

Israel's permanent population consisted almost entirely of recent immigrants that it imported for the purpose of populating its planned state.

Israel has never had a defined territory. To this day, Israel has no territory inside defined borders.

Israel is a foreign government inside Palestine. Israel was proclaimed inside Palestine by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants. None of them were native to Palestine.

The "state of Israel" was imposed on Palestine by military force.

Israel's Foreign Minister Eban stressed that it was undesirable to undermine what had already been accomplished by the armistice agreements, and maintained that Israel held no territory wrongfully, since her occupation of the areas had been sanctioned by the armistice agreements, as had the occupation of the territory in Palestine held by the Arab states.

State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip were all areas of occupation defined by the UN armistice agreements lines.

 

[toastman]

Whenever Tinnie has no rebuttal to Roccos posts, he comes up with his "Your post is based on false premise"

 

[toastman]

Funny..

You left Irgun out of your "evolution" thing.

You know.

The terrorists that founded Israel?

The difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians, is that one of them moved forward and gave up their so called 'terrorist' ways while the other didn't move forward at all and still use and promote terrorism to promote their bullshit agenda. Can you guess which one?

Children killed in 2012 Remember These Children 2012 Memorial
Palestinian 44
Israeli 0

Uhhh, let me guess.

So those children were killed by terrorism ?

 

[Roudy]

Funny..

You left Irgun out of your "evolution" thing.

You know.

The terrorists that founded Israel?

The difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians, is that one of them moved forward and gave up their so called 'terrorist' ways while the other didn't move forward at all and still use and promote terrorism to promote their bullshit agenda. Can you guess which one?

Children killed in 2012 Remember These Children 2012 Memorial
Palestinian 44
Israeli 0

Uhhh, let me guess.

Israel does its best to protect its people from Palestinians who not only hide behind their kids, but train them to be fighters as well as suicide bombers. One side has respect for life while the other doesn't even care for their own. What else is new?

 

[Roudy]

P F Tinmore, et al,

So, even if this applied, it can be applied in favor of the Israeli.

However, the High Contracting Parties are all in the Americas. It is a regional treaty. I doesn't apply to the Middle East, Europe, Asia/Pacific or Africa.

So true.

(COMMENT)

Israel has a right to defend itself from Hostile Arab/Palestinian (HoAP) aggression, even if the HoAP does not recognize it.

I've seen HoAP aggressors raise this issue before. It is a case where the HoAP is trying to make the world believe that Palestine was a "state" before the International Community recognized Israel. An alternate history.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, you keep basing your conclusions on false premise.

ARTICLE 1

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: a ) a permanent population; b ) a defined territory; c ) government; and d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

The Avalon Project : Convention on Rights and Duties of States (inter-American); December 26, 1933

Where does Israel stand?

Israel's permanent population consisted almost entirely of recent immigrants that it imported for the purpose of populating its planned state.

Israel has never had a defined territory. To this day, Israel has no territory inside defined borders.

Israel is a foreign government inside Palestine. Israel was proclaimed inside Palestine by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants. None of them were native to Palestine.

The "state of Israel" was imposed on Palestine by military force.

Israel's Foreign Minister Eban stressed that it was undesirable to undermine what had already been accomplished by the armistice agreements, and maintained that Israel held no territory wrongfully, since her occupation of the areas had been sanctioned by the armistice agreements, as had the occupation of the territory in Palestine held by the Arab states.

State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip were all areas of occupation defined by the UN armistice agreements lines.

Nope.

 

[toastman]

The difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians, is that one of them moved forward and gave up their so called 'terrorist' ways while the other didn't move forward at all and still use and promote terrorism to promote their bullshit agenda. Can you guess which one?

Children killed in 2012 Remember These Children 2012 Memorial
Palestinian 44
Israeli 0

Uhhh, let me guess.

Israel does its best to protect its people from Palestinians who not only hide beside their kids, but train them to be fighters as suicide bombers. One side has respect for life while the other doesn't even care for their own. What else is new?

Tinmore thinks because Israelis aren't dying, it mean Hamas isn't trying lol. With every rocket they launch they would be pleased if Israelis were being killed and maimed. Israelis do not want civilian casualties. That a simple fact that Tinnie always ignores