Hate and Rage-- What's the difference?

For many people, just connecting with feelings of rage is a huge undertaking. We are conditioned, programmed, and punished out of our feelings of rage. There are enormous judgments against rage as a "bad" feeling, a destructive force, something to be got rid of in favor of the more placid and loving feelings. But rage in an unhealed state can do enormous damage.
 
Rage and anger aren't "rational", they are strong emotions from an old, survival part of the brain. Stop bringing your FZ presumptions into the thread and we can have an interesting discussion,"Ravi".
Anger is rational. Rage is not. Not sure what your last sentence had to do with the discussion.
Rage can be appropriate. It's what kicks in and allows you to fight for your life, when attacked by a tiger.
Incorrect. You'd have better luck trying to escape or trying to play with the tiger. Sometimes predators play with their prey. Sometimes prey can escape predators. Fighting a tiger would be irrational but it is not caused by rage.
Potter-Efron lists four types of rage reactions: 1.Survival Rage, a perceived threat to one’s physical existence. 2. Impotent Rage, a threat to one’s control over his/her life. 3. Shame- Based Rage, a threat to loss of self-esteem. 4. Abandonment Rage, loss of an intimate relationship
Tilly--

Brilliant resource. Any link?

Dhara
 
Rage and anger aren't "rational", they are strong emotions from an old, survival part of the brain. Stop bringing your FZ presumptions into the thread and we can have an interesting discussion,"Ravi".
Anger is rational. Rage is not. Not sure what your last sentence had to do with the discussion.
Rage can be appropriate. It's what kicks in and allows you to fight for your life, when attacked by a tiger.
Incorrect. You'd have better luck trying to escape or trying to play with the tiger. Sometimes predators play with their prey. Sometimes prey can escape predators. Fighting a tiger would be irrational but it is not caused by rage.
Potter-Efron lists four types of rage reactions: 1.Survival Rage, a perceived threat to one’s physical existence. 2. Impotent Rage, a threat to one’s control over his/her life. 3. Shame- Based Rage, a threat to loss of self-esteem. 4. Abandonment Rage, loss of an intimate relationship
Tilly--

Brilliant resource. Any link?

Dhara
Sorry, i forgot to provide the link :
Dealing with explosive rage in your relationship - Dr. Offra Gerstein - Personal and Relationship Issues
 
I think we are not working with good definitions.

There is rage, hate, frustration and anger.
 
According to a psychiatrist who worked with NPDs (can't remember his name atm) there are seven stages of anger, the ultimate one being rage. See if I can find a ref. There has also been research that indicates expressing anger is good for mental health, although not so good for the cardiovascular system, obviously, and that survival rage I've when ones safety/life is threatened, actually leads to rapid and effective decision making, as opposed to what we might assume, ie that it must result in faulty thinking.
 
According to a psychiatrist who worked with NPDs (can't remember his name atm) there are seven stages of anger, the ultimate one being rage. See if I can find a ref. There has also been research that indicates expressing anger is good for mental health, although not so good for the cardiovascular system, obviously, and that survival rage I've when ones safety/life is threatened, actually leads to rapid and effective decision making, as opposed to what we might assume, ie that it must result in faulty thinking.

Yes, but did you read that in a rage?
 
Well, whatever it is you have, are you dealing with it in a way that makes you less enraged/hateful?
 
Rage and anger aren't "rational", they are strong emotions from an old, survival part of the brain. Stop bringing your FZ presumptions into the thread and we can have an interesting discussion,"Ravi".
Anger is rational. Rage is not. Not sure what your last sentence had to do with the discussion.
Rage can be appropriate. It's what kicks in and allows you to fight for your life, when attacked by a tiger.
Incorrect. You'd have better luck trying to escape or trying to play with the tiger. Sometimes predators play with their prey. Sometimes prey can escape predators. Fighting a tiger would be irrational but it is not caused by rage.
Potter-Efron lists four types of rage reactions: 1.Survival Rage, a perceived threat to one’s physical existence. 2. Impotent Rage, a threat to one’s control over his/her life. 3. Shame- Based Rage, a threat to loss of self-esteem. 4. Abandonment Rage, loss of an intimate relationship
The vast majority of self help books are psycho-babble. It does rake in the rubes and their dollars.
 
Dr Paul Maclean, a leading neuroscientist, developed the famous Triune Brain theory for understanding the brain in terms of its evolutionary history. According to this theory, three distinct brains emerged successively in the course of evolution and now co-inhabit the human skull. These three parts of the brain do not operate independently. They have established numerous neuro pathways through which they influence one another. This interplay of memory and emotion, thought and action is the foundation of a person’s individuality. The Triune Brain theory leads to a better understanding of the survival instinct such as the fight or flight response and its ability to override the more rational neocortex.


Reptilian Brain
The oldest of the three, controls the body's vital functions such as heart rate, breathing, body temperature and balance. Our reptilian brain includes the main structures found in a reptile's brain: the brainstem and the cerebellum. The reptilian brain is reliable but tends to be somewhat rigid and compulsive.


Limbic System
Emerged in the first mammals. It can record memories of behaviours that produced agreeable and disagreeable experiences, so it is responsible for what are called emotions in human beings. The main structures of the limbic brain are the hippocampus, the amygdala, and the hypothalamus. The limbic brain is the seat of the value judgments that we make, often unconsciously, that exert such a strong influence on our behaviour.


Neocortex
First assumed importance in primates and culminated in the human brain with its two large cerebral hemispheres that play such a dominant role. These hemispheres have been responsible for the development of human language, abstract thought, imagination, and consciousness. The neocortex is flexible and has almost infinite learning capabilities.

Paul MacLean Triune Brain Theory
 

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