Have trump voters Considered The Topographic Obstacles To his Border Wall?

[pismoe]

I have. I don't support 'Eminent Domain.' In those areas, other options will have to be considered.

That's the reason eminent domain is in our Constitution. As you well know!

--------------------------------------------------- and i think that there is also some Free Land between the USA and 'mex' called the Roosevelt Reservation' that might be used for a WALL as government is the only one thats able to use that land .

 

[pismoe]

some quick info on the ROOSEVELT RESERVATION . --- Roosevelt Reservation - Wikipedia ---

 

[LuckyDuck]

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When the idiot trump first announced the construction of his “wall” to keep the rapists and murders from Mexico out of the U.S., he told his gullible followers he would force Mexico to pay for it. His mindless minions cheered wildly.

Mexico’s president, Enrique Peña Nieto has repeatedly told the idiot trump that Mexico footing the bill ain’t gonna happen. But, the idiot trump keeps swearing to his mindless minions that Mexico will pay, and the dupes and suckers always cheer wildly.

Since conservatives, especially those who are devoted to the idiot trump, see themselves as experts in constitutional law, economics, foreign and domestic policy, science, and most everything else, have these self-proclaimed experts-in-all-things who are willing to debate true experts, ever given a thought to the topography of the border regions between Mexico and the United States? (to·pog·ra·phy - noun - the arrangement of the natural and artificial physical features of an area.)

If the entire border of the U.S. and Mexico was a ridge line it would be ideal for a defensive wall because water flows either to one side or the other. When a wall is built that crosses a valley, canyon, small arroyo, etc., it then becomes a “dam”.

The Continental Divide would be an ideal placement for a the idiot trump‘s “wall” because no river crosses this natural ridge line that runs from Montana to New Mexico. All water from the Continental Divide will flow either to the east, Atlantic; or to the west, Pacific.

The borderland along these Southwest States generally runs over high deserts with at least a thousand canyons crossing the international border. People who live in these desert states know that when it rains, the flash floods can be massive and ferocious, with walls of water hurling boulders and debris through anything in its way.

The cost to build a human proof barrier across this lengthy section of land would be staggering. Even a small “high security” dam would require elaborate engineering to block illegal human transit and yet allow the water and natural debris to pass through. And this water and debris arrives with little advance warning.

Conservatives don’t want to pay the taxes needed for their own local police and fire protection. So, how are conservatives going to react when they see the first bids for constructing a thousand of these “specialized” dams? Dams that jump up to allow the passing of a flash flood’s water and debris, then immediately drop precisely back into place to block the illegal human traffic waiting on the “other” side.

As much as the conservatives would hate paying the bill to construct these many dams, building them is just the beginning. The expense maintaining the intricate machinery and electronic technology involved in these dams to keep them operational at all times would dwarf their construction costs, and the wall sections could only be built after the inevitable engineering “bugs” in all of these dams have been worked out. Otherwise, the wall sections would be useless.

Rational people understand we’re talking decades and trillions-of-dollars to complete such a massive undertaking, which is why no one ever seriously proposed such a ridiculous project in the past.

Only the idiot trump would be so arrogant and ignorant, which speaks volumes about his mindless minions.

Now the conservative idiocy will follow, none of which deserves a response.

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Apparently there are no estimates for the more expensive specialty dams the idiot trump never mentioned.





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Trump voters are aware of the topographical issues regarding the wall and acknowledge that in those areas where the wall is impractical, increased surveillance, including drones would be the alternative.

 

[Issa]

I think who wants a wall should contribute money , and should also never eat food harvested by illegals, restaurant food, etc...

 

[Camp]

No legislation for construction of a wall was passed or even voted on. Fake news dependent on lies.

Secure Fence Act of 2006 is being distorted and it called for 700 miles of fence, not a wall 1,000 miles, 1500 miles or 2000 miles long and 40 or 60 feet tall.

Confusing.

In one sentence you claim that there has been "no legislation for construction of a wall was passed or even voted on".

In the next sentence, then you comment about the Secure Fence Act of 2006.

So where were you lying?

No, I understand the difference between a fence and a wall.

 

[Lysistrata]

Who is going to pay for this ridiculous boondoogle? Stupidest idea to hit the streets in a long while. We have many other things to pay for rather than this idiocy.

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL. PUT ON IN THE CHARGE CARD LIKE EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE. WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR IT LATER, LIKE FOR EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE.

It's a waste of much needed money. I consider all caps to be an indication of hysteria.

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

 

[Lysistrata]

Who is going to pay for this ridiculous boondoogle? Stupidest idea to hit the streets in a long while. We have many other things to pay for rather than this idiocy.

--------------------------- whats with this WE as i think that YOU are a 'euro' Lysis . Course if you pay taxes in the USA YOU will pay for the WALL . Unless you Legally and vociferously and with lots of fanfare you refuse to pay your taxes Lysis .

I don't know what a "euro" is, except for European currency. Is that like "cuck" or "virtual signaling" or some other horseshit coming out of the alt-reich? There will be no wall. It's a white-trash fantasy.

 

[Correll]

Who is going to pay for this ridiculous boondoogle? Stupidest idea to hit the streets in a long while. We have many other things to pay for rather than this idiocy.

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL. PUT ON IN THE CHARGE CARD LIKE EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE. WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR IT LATER, LIKE FOR EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE.

It's a waste of much needed money. I consider all caps to be an indication of hysteria.

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

 

[Lysistrata]

Who is going to pay for this ridiculous boondoogle? Stupidest idea to hit the streets in a long while. We have many other things to pay for rather than this idiocy.

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL. PUT ON IN THE CHARGE CARD LIKE EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE. WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR IT LATER, LIKE FOR EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE.

It's a waste of much needed money. I consider all caps to be an indication of hysteria.

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

 

[Correll]

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL. PUT ON IN THE CHARGE CARD LIKE EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE. WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR IT LATER, LIKE FOR EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE.

It's a waste of much needed money. I consider all caps to be an indication of hysteria.

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

Soooo, to review.


You make a claim that we can't build the wall, because we need to focus on other things, such as food and electricity.


When I point out the massive size of the federal government and claim that they should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time,


your response is to call me stupid and ridicule me.



YOu do understand that you just lost and surrendered, right?



My point was valid, and you ran away like a little girl.



Thus my point wins.


Thanks for playing.

 

[pismoe]

Who is going to pay for this ridiculous boondoogle? Stupidest idea to hit the streets in a long while. We have many other things to pay for rather than this idiocy.

BUILD THE FUCKING WALL. PUT ON IN THE CHARGE CARD LIKE EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE. WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR IT LATER, LIKE FOR EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE.

It's a waste of much needed money. I consider all caps to be an indication of hysteria.

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

------------------------------------ good to hear that YOU are very angry Lysis .

 

[Lysistrata]

It's a waste of much needed money. I consider all caps to be an indication of hysteria.

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

Soooo, to review.


You make a claim that we can't build the wall, because we need to focus on other things, such as food and electricity.


When I point out the massive size of the federal government and claim that they should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time,


your response is to call me stupid and ridicule me.



YOu do understand that you just lost and surrendered, right?



My point was valid, and you ran away like a little girl.



Thus my point wins.


Thanks for playing.

You don't have the victory at all and I have not "surrendered." You forget that the morons neglected the infrastructure for decades, while squandering borrowed money in the Middle East. Now we have to play catch-up after listening to idiotic "conservatives" yawling for years about spending, spending, spending, and now you want this expensive boondoggle. It's you people who want more bridge collapses, pollution, unwanted kids, floods, accidents, disease, drought. You folks can't think even one week ahead. Instead, you want to turn this place into an impoverished dump. You can't spend the same money twice.

 

[Correll]

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

Soooo, to review.


You make a claim that we can't build the wall, because we need to focus on other things, such as food and electricity.


When I point out the massive size of the federal government and claim that they should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time,


your response is to call me stupid and ridicule me.



YOu do understand that you just lost and surrendered, right?



My point was valid, and you ran away like a little girl.



Thus my point wins.


Thanks for playing.

You don't have the victory at all and I have not "surrendered." You forget that the morons neglected the infrastructure for decades, while squandering borrowed money in the Middle East. Now we have to play catch-up after listening to idiotic "conservatives" yawling for years about spending, spending, spending, and now you want this expensive boondoggle. It's you people who want more bridge collapses, pollution, unwanted kids, floods, accidents, disease, drought. You folks can't think even one week ahead. Instead, you want to turn this place into an impoverished dump. You can't spend the same money twice.

Jeez, it's almost like we are Pure Evil.


Meanwhile in the Real World, the United States government can build a Wall.


If it fails at it's other responsibilities, it is not because of tiny program of building a wall, that will cost far less than ONE PERCENT of the budget, even with massive overruns..

 

[Norman]

Ancient Chinese built a wall without the benefit of modern supplies and equipment over rough terrain that is still standing a couple of thousand years later.
The cost will be minor compared to what the alien invasion is costing us now.
Cheaper yet would be to annex Central America down to the Panama Canal (where we already have a wall) and save the immigrants the trouble of sneaking in and then tax them.
Another option would be concentrating on capturing the illegal aliens already here and sentencing them to 2-3 yrs. hard labor building the wall before deportation.

I got news for you sweetpea. The wall didn't work. China was still invaded.

China looks very Chinese these days so the wall did work.

Western white countries... what is this I am seeing? Get the walls up immediately.

 

[Lysistrata]

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

Soooo, to review.


You make a claim that we can't build the wall, because we need to focus on other things, such as food and electricity.


When I point out the massive size of the federal government and claim that they should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time,


your response is to call me stupid and ridicule me.



YOu do understand that you just lost and surrendered, right?



My point was valid, and you ran away like a little girl.



Thus my point wins.


Thanks for playing.

You don't have the victory at all and I have not "surrendered." You forget that the morons neglected the infrastructure for decades, while squandering borrowed money in the Middle East. Now we have to play catch-up after listening to idiotic "conservatives" yawling for years about spending, spending, spending, and now you want this expensive boondoggle. It's you people who want more bridge collapses, pollution, unwanted kids, floods, accidents, disease, drought. You folks can't think even one week ahead. Instead, you want to turn this place into an impoverished dump. You can't spend the same money twice.

Jeez, it's almost like we are Pure Evil.


Meanwhile in the Real World, the United States government can build a Wall.


If it fails at it's other responsibilities, it is not because of tiny program of building a wall, that will cost far less than ONE PERCENT of the budget, even with massive overruns..

On a boondoogle? What happened to spending, spending, spending: "we can't afford it," while we, or course, could afford to invade Iraq. We have an incredible amount of spending to do just to catch up on other, more important things.

 

[Norman]

See all those brown bumps along the red line?
We call those "mountains".
Do you know what mountains are boys and girls?

Mountains are something that the wall can move around. Our engineers aren't as stupid as you are...

 

[pismoe]

No you don't to either.


You consider it a problem for your lefty agenda, you want those votes. YOu understand that from an American POV, that it is obviously the right thing to do.


And you know that I am not hysterical, but very angry, and fucking done with your lefty bullshit.



BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

Soooo, to review.


You make a claim that we can't build the wall, because we need to focus on other things, such as food and electricity.


When I point out the massive size of the federal government and claim that they should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time,


your response is to call me stupid and ridicule me.



YOu do understand that you just lost and surrendered, right?



My point was valid, and you ran away like a little girl.



Thus my point wins.


Thanks for playing.

You don't have the victory at all and I have not "surrendered." You forget that the morons neglected the infrastructure for decades, while squandering borrowed money in the Middle East. Now we have to play catch-up after listening to idiotic "conservatives" yawling for years about spending, spending, spending, and now you want this expensive boondoggle. It's you people who want more bridge collapses, pollution, unwanted kids, floods, accidents, disease, drought. You folks can't think even one week ahead. Instead, you want to turn this place into an impoverished dump. You can't spend the same money twice.

-------------------------------- let them import themselves into or let them immigrate to the USA and they soon think that they own the USA and make policy Correl . Its funny and i've been warning Real Americans for years Correl .

 

[Norman]

You are hysterical. From an "American POV," electrical grid, food, housing, roads, bridges, works to ensure against Gulf Coast flooding, improvements to ensure the integrity of our elections, and more, lots, more, come first. I also am very angry and I happen to be done with this right-wing nut-job bullshit. You people don't have the brains that God gave you. That's been shown time and time again.

The US budget is running at over FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS.


A few thousand people in the desert building a Wall, will not stop food from getting to people's tables or for the lights to go out.


You are the hysterical one, because you know that you have no rational argument, hence all your emotional bullshit.

I see that it is impossible for you to understand even the most basic facts about spending and the budget, so I won't try. I will hand you a virtual tissue, instead.

Soooo, to review.


You make a claim that we can't build the wall, because we need to focus on other things, such as food and electricity.


When I point out the massive size of the federal government and claim that they should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time,


your response is to call me stupid and ridicule me.



YOu do understand that you just lost and surrendered, right?



My point was valid, and you ran away like a little girl.



Thus my point wins.


Thanks for playing.

You don't have the victory at all and I have not "surrendered." You forget that the morons neglected the infrastructure for decades, while squandering borrowed money in the Middle East. Now we have to play catch-up after listening to idiotic "conservatives" yawling for years about spending, spending, spending, and now you want this expensive boondoggle. It's you people who want more bridge collapses, pollution, unwanted kids, floods, accidents, disease, drought. You folks can't think even one week ahead. Instead, you want to turn this place into an impoverished dump. You can't spend the same money twice.

-------------------------------- let them import themselves into or let them immigrate to the USA and they soon think that they own the USA and make policy Correl . Its funny and i've been warning Real Americans for years Correl .

The wall is great for stifling spending. Less Mexican voters who vote big government = less spending.

One of the best investments ever.

 

[pismoe]

See all those brown bumps along the red line?
We call those "mountains".
Do you know what mountains are boys and girls?

Mountains are something that the wall can move around. Our engineers aren't as stupid as you are...

--------------------------------- we defeated natural barriers hundreds of years ago and i repeat that we built Rail Road Track through and over mountains , lakes , river , forests back in the 1860s as we built a trancontinental Railroad using dynamite , pickaxes , shovels and man power .

 

[Norman]

See all those brown bumps along the red line?
We call those "mountains".
Do you know what mountains are boys and girls?

Mountains are something that the wall can move around. Our engineers aren't as stupid as you are...

--------------------------------- we defeated natural barriers hundreds of years ago and i repeat that we built Rail Road Track through and over mountains , lakes , river , forests back in the 1860s as we built a trancontinental Railroad using dynamite , pickaxes , shovels and man power .

Deanrd is just playing dumb, or maybe he really is that dumb.

Either way, building that wall is one of the most important policy objectives in American history.