Here's How To Set Race Relations Back....

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No North Koreans and South Koreans are the same color. There shouldnt be any infighting but you know Koreans...

 

[PoliticalChic]

No North Koreans and South Koreans are the same color. There shouldnt be any infighting but you know Koreans...

So glad you decided to address the issue of the OP....
...whether Liberal/Progressives/Democrats are destroying blacks by setting them outside of the rules that apply to other groups.





1. The situation under the spotlight is exactly what Ann Coulter wrote about in her best seller, "Mugged."

Liberals/Progessives/Democrats who make special rules for particular groups, blacks in particular, are acting as though black folks aren't just like anyone else, capable of the same achievements and behaviors.


a. "It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived."
Coulter



2. Now...here we go again...the Obama/Holder Axis wants there to special rules for minorities, encouraging poor behavior in said groups, as if discipline were an intrinsic, ineluctable, and unavoidable problem...and would ever be so.

The Axis is out to destroy black folks.




3. This is what they are taking away:

“Like members of outsider groups before and since, this African-American elite considered education to be the key to full citizenship. They also embraced values of character and responsibility….Gains in terms of entrepreneurship, finding a trade, finding a profession, setting down roots, buying property, and feeling they were at last becoming a genuine part of city life. They would refer to ‘color-phobia’ as ‘fast disappearing in our city.’…Peterson's great grandfather owned a pharmacy in a largely Irish neighborhood. ”
From "Black Gotham," by University of Maryland Professor Carla Peterson.




So very sad that you don't believe that black folks are just like other groups.
Perhaps you'll wake up one day....

...or, you'll probably remain a dunce.

 

[Zagg]

Arne Duncan wants schools to become "safe havens". Not punishing black students for their misbehavior will certainly bring this about.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Arne Duncan wants schools to become "safe havens". Not punishing black students for their misbehavior will certainly bring this about.

That would be "not punishing those of authorized minority groups no matter their culpability."


But you are absolutely correct in suggesting the insanity therein.


The Liberal/Progressive/Democrat/Leftists have perfected the ability to look insanity directly in the eye, and claiming not to see it.


Let's add it to the list:

a. They support higher taxes and government intervention to grow the economy, when all evidence historical and current (Greece) records the disastrous folly of such a course.

b. The President’s view that a woman’s right to have recreational sex and enjoy cost-free access to pregnancy prevention/termination trumps the constitutional right to act according to one’s religious beliefs.

c. Eisenhower famously said ‘public opinion wins wars,’ yet the Left won’t allow the terms ‘Islamofascism’ or ‘Radical Islam.’

d. Belief in Global Warming, in the face of the East Anglia emails…

e. The government sues the state of Arizona for the enforcement of laws the passage of which are not only the right of the state under the Constitution, but the content of which is virtually identical with federal law.

f. The state of California sentences the farmers of the Central Valley to drought and their farms to destruction because a small fish called the delta smelt has been declared endangered.

g. A baby born alive as a result of a botched abortion should be left to die.

h. That some 400 Liberal journalists have been revealed as involved in a cabal to distort that which they offer as news, in aid of Liberalism, makes no difference to the Liberal. Meet the New Journolist, Smaller Than the Old Journolist - Jeffrey Goldberg - The Atlantic

From "The Secret Knowledge," David Mamet, chapter 21

 

[PoliticalChic]

How long before the Obama/Holder axis orders schools to make certain that every racial category wind up with the same scores on standardized exams?


Is there any reason that the exact same logic doesn't apply as per the OP?




Hey....did you vote for Obama?
Then you voted for racism as the policy of the federal government.

 

[Mac1958]

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The PC Police have no interest in healing racial problems in this country. Keep people divided and angry based on nothing more than skin color, and you remain relevant and in control of the conversation.

We'll see how much life this tactic still has.

.

 

[Huey]

Oioiboio,she's from brooklyn,the no english speaking city in newyoik.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oioiboio,she's from brooklyn,the no english speaking city in newyoik.

So....wadda ya' think.....good idea to set racial quotas for misbehavior?

 

[IanC]

And your comment on the question posed by the OP?

Hahahaha. I gave up trying to make sense of American politics long ago. You cannot legislate reality out of existence, as the Sovirt Union found out.

What's the prob, daddio.......

Is it the right thing to decide on punishments due to one's race....or due to the infraction?

Why all the tap-dancing????

both courses of action have benefits and detriments. its just another variant of affirmative action. is it worth the extra price to get more blacks into the middle class where they can model a better way of life to their friends and family? maybe. is it fair to those who have to 'pay' for AA? of course not but social engineering always screws someone.

our western society likes to think we can 'fix' poor and coloured people by 'helping' them with lower standards. we pretend it works and ignore the costs because it makes us feel good and slightly superior. it certainly is not the only delusions we hold dear. can art music and sports defend their position?

 

[Asclepias]

I read "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," by J. Christian Adams some time ago, and have posted about the racialist policies of this administration.....and, regularly, there is more proof of Adams' revelations.




Just saw this.....


1. " ....a new memo from the Departments of Justice and Education that instructs public schools throughout the country to cease punishing disruptive students if they fall into certain racial categories, such as black or Hispanic.

2. ....it is a violation of federal law for schools to punish certain races more than others, even if those punishments stem from completely neutral rules.

3. ....equal numbers of black students and white students should be punished for tardiness, even if black students are more often tardy than white students. (RELATED: DOJ to schools: It’s racist to punish students for behaving badly, texting in class)





4. “Schools also violate Federal law when they evenhandedly implement facially neutral policies and practices that, although not adopted with the intent to discriminate, nonetheless have an unjustified effect of discriminating against students on the basis of race.

Examples of policies that can raise disparate impact concerns include policies that impose mandatory suspension, expulsion, or citation (e.g., ticketing or other fines or summonses) upon any student who commits a specified offense — such as being tardy to class, being in possession of a cellular phone, being found insubordinate, acting out, or not wearing the proper school uniform.”





5. ...education experts ... raised serious concerns about the ramifications of changing school disciplinary procedures to engineer equal outcomes across the races.

a. “It’s ridiculous to assign quotas for discipline based on race,” she said. “If we did that, for one thing, we’d have to believe that Asian students are severely under-disciplined.”

b. ...the letter’s policies, if implemented, would actually harm black children, by making the classrooms they inhabit “more chaotic.”




6. “As best I can tell, they are telling schools that even if you have policies that are clearly neutral, that are clearly evenhanded, that are clearly designed to create safe environments for students and educators, DOJ still might come down on you like a ton of bricks,”

7. “Kids of the favored race know they can get away with more, so they misbehave more, and the well-behaved kids lose out on instruction because the teacher is busy trying to manage unruly students she can’t send to the principal’s office,” said Pullmann.
Experts slam DOJ letter telling schools to implement race-based punishments | The Daily Caller




How can the media ignore this?
How can anyone send their children to government schools?
How does anyone decide to ever vote for Liberal/Progressive/Democrats?
Why would anyone become a teacher????




Asking my Liberal colleagues......is it just me...or is this both insane, and as racist as one can get?

Its nowhere near comprehensive enough in my opinion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hahahaha. I gave up trying to make sense of American politics long ago. You cannot legislate reality out of existence, as the Sovirt Union found out.

What's the prob, daddio.......

Is it the right thing to decide on punishments due to one's race....or due to the infraction?

Why all the tap-dancing????

both courses of action have benefits and detriments. its just another variant of affirmative action. is it worth the extra price to get more blacks into the middle class where they can model a better way of life to their friends and family? maybe. is it fair to those who have to 'pay' for AA? of course not but social engineering always screws someone.

our western society likes to think we can 'fix' poor and coloured people by 'helping' them with lower standards. we pretend it works and ignore the costs because it makes us feel good and slightly superior. it certainly is not the only delusions we hold dear. can art music and sports defend their position?

So...you're opposed?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I read "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," by J. Christian Adams some time ago, and have posted about the racialist policies of this administration.....and, regularly, there is more proof of Adams' revelations.




Just saw this.....


1. " ....a new memo from the Departments of Justice and Education that instructs public schools throughout the country to cease punishing disruptive students if they fall into certain racial categories, such as black or Hispanic.

2. ....it is a violation of federal law for schools to punish certain races more than others, even if those punishments stem from completely neutral rules.

3. ....equal numbers of black students and white students should be punished for tardiness, even if black students are more often tardy than white students. (RELATED: DOJ to schools: It’s racist to punish students for behaving badly, texting in class)





4. “Schools also violate Federal law when they evenhandedly implement facially neutral policies and practices that, although not adopted with the intent to discriminate, nonetheless have an unjustified effect of discriminating against students on the basis of race.

Examples of policies that can raise disparate impact concerns include policies that impose mandatory suspension, expulsion, or citation (e.g., ticketing or other fines or summonses) upon any student who commits a specified offense — such as being tardy to class, being in possession of a cellular phone, being found insubordinate, acting out, or not wearing the proper school uniform.”





5. ...education experts ... raised serious concerns about the ramifications of changing school disciplinary procedures to engineer equal outcomes across the races.

a. “It’s ridiculous to assign quotas for discipline based on race,” she said. “If we did that, for one thing, we’d have to believe that Asian students are severely under-disciplined.”

b. ...the letter’s policies, if implemented, would actually harm black children, by making the classrooms they inhabit “more chaotic.”




6. “As best I can tell, they are telling schools that even if you have policies that are clearly neutral, that are clearly evenhanded, that are clearly designed to create safe environments for students and educators, DOJ still might come down on you like a ton of bricks,”

7. “Kids of the favored race know they can get away with more, so they misbehave more, and the well-behaved kids lose out on instruction because the teacher is busy trying to manage unruly students she can’t send to the principal’s office,” said Pullmann.
Experts slam DOJ letter telling schools to implement race-based punishments | The Daily Caller




How can the media ignore this?
How can anyone send their children to government schools?
How does anyone decide to ever vote for Liberal/Progressive/Democrats?
Why would anyone become a teacher????




Asking my Liberal colleagues......is it just me...or is this both insane, and as racist as one can get?

Its nowhere near comprehensive enough in my opinion.

For or against the policy......and why?

 

[Moonglow]

I read "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," by J. Christian Adams some time ago, and have posted about the racialist policies of this administration.....and, regularly, there is more proof of Adams' revelations.




Just saw this.....


1. " ....a new memo from the Departments of Justice and Education that instructs public schools throughout the country to cease punishing disruptive students if they fall into certain racial categories, such as black or Hispanic.

2. ....it is a violation of federal law for schools to punish certain races more than others, even if those punishments stem from completely neutral rules.

3. ....equal numbers of black students and white students should be punished for tardiness, even if black students are more often tardy than white students. (RELATED: DOJ to schools: It’s racist to punish students for behaving badly, texting in class)





4. “Schools also violate Federal law when they evenhandedly implement facially neutral policies and practices that, although not adopted with the intent to discriminate, nonetheless have an unjustified effect of discriminating against students on the basis of race.

Examples of policies that can raise disparate impact concerns include policies that impose mandatory suspension, expulsion, or citation (e.g., ticketing or other fines or summonses) upon any student who commits a specified offense — such as being tardy to class, being in possession of a cellular phone, being found insubordinate, acting out, or not wearing the proper school uniform.”





5. ...education experts ... raised serious concerns about the ramifications of changing school disciplinary procedures to engineer equal outcomes across the races.

a. “It’s ridiculous to assign quotas for discipline based on race,” she said. “If we did that, for one thing, we’d have to believe that Asian students are severely under-disciplined.”

b. ...the letter’s policies, if implemented, would actually harm black children, by making the classrooms they inhabit “more chaotic.”




6. “As best I can tell, they are telling schools that even if you have policies that are clearly neutral, that are clearly evenhanded, that are clearly designed to create safe environments for students and educators, DOJ still might come down on you like a ton of bricks,”

7. “Kids of the favored race know they can get away with more, so they misbehave more, and the well-behaved kids lose out on instruction because the teacher is busy trying to manage unruly students she can’t send to the principal’s office,” said Pullmann.
Experts slam DOJ letter telling schools to implement race-based punishments | The Daily Caller




How can the media ignore this?
How can anyone send their children to government schools?
How does anyone decide to ever vote for Liberal/Progressive/Democrats?
Why would anyone become a teacher????




Asking my Liberal colleagues......is it just me...or is this both insane, and as racist as one can get?

Ain't it a bitch when the shoe is on the other foot?

 

[Asclepias]

I read "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," by J. Christian Adams some time ago, and have posted about the racialist policies of this administration.....and, regularly, there is more proof of Adams' revelations.




Just saw this.....


1. " ....a new memo from the Departments of Justice and Education that instructs public schools throughout the country to cease punishing disruptive students if they fall into certain racial categories, such as black or Hispanic.

2. ....it is a violation of federal law for schools to punish certain races more than others, even if those punishments stem from completely neutral rules.

3. ....equal numbers of black students and white students should be punished for tardiness, even if black students are more often tardy than white students. (RELATED: DOJ to schools: It’s racist to punish students for behaving badly, texting in class)





4. “Schools also violate Federal law when they evenhandedly implement facially neutral policies and practices that, although not adopted with the intent to discriminate, nonetheless have an unjustified effect of discriminating against students on the basis of race.

Examples of policies that can raise disparate impact concerns include policies that impose mandatory suspension, expulsion, or citation (e.g., ticketing or other fines or summonses) upon any student who commits a specified offense — such as being tardy to class, being in possession of a cellular phone, being found insubordinate, acting out, or not wearing the proper school uniform.”





5. ...education experts ... raised serious concerns about the ramifications of changing school disciplinary procedures to engineer equal outcomes across the races.

a. “It’s ridiculous to assign quotas for discipline based on race,” she said. “If we did that, for one thing, we’d have to believe that Asian students are severely under-disciplined.”

b. ...the letter’s policies, if implemented, would actually harm black children, by making the classrooms they inhabit “more chaotic.”




6. “As best I can tell, they are telling schools that even if you have policies that are clearly neutral, that are clearly evenhanded, that are clearly designed to create safe environments for students and educators, DOJ still might come down on you like a ton of bricks,”

7. “Kids of the favored race know they can get away with more, so they misbehave more, and the well-behaved kids lose out on instruction because the teacher is busy trying to manage unruly students she can’t send to the principal’s office,” said Pullmann.
Experts slam DOJ letter telling schools to implement race-based punishments | The Daily Caller




How can the media ignore this?
How can anyone send their children to government schools?
How does anyone decide to ever vote for Liberal/Progressive/Democrats?
Why would anyone become a teacher????




Asking my Liberal colleagues......is it just me...or is this both insane, and as racist as one can get?

Its nowhere near comprehensive enough in my opinion.

For or against the policy......and why?

Definitely for it. Why would I want it to be against me like it has been for centuries.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm just saying they are enslaving and torturing people and you never even brought it up.

You're desperate to derail this thread - in a panic in fact.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Its nowhere near comprehensive enough in my opinion.

For or against the policy......and why?

Definitely for it. Why would I want it to be against me like it has been for centuries.

Why?

Because of the insanity of refusing to establish discipline.

I understand that the Left has already eviscerated education in this nation, but for any to endorse a discipline policy based on skin color is a posteriori evidence of mental instability.


When the books are finally closed on the factors which destroyed America, folks like you will have a prominent position in the analysis.

 

[Asclepias]

For or against the policy......and why?

Definitely for it. Why would I want it to be against me like it has been for centuries.

Why?

Because of the insanity of refusing to establish discipline.

I understand that the Left has already eviscerated education in this nation, but for any to endorse a discipline policy based on skin color is a posteriori evidence of mental instability.


When the books are finally closed on the factors which destroyed America, folks like you will have a prominent position in the analysis.

I outlined why already. Centuries of discrimination based on racial prejudice is entrenched in the American perceptions of Black people. You get what you expect. To a hammer everything looks like a nail. Change your mindset and you will get different results. Punitive is only serving to create more problems and more prejudice. In other words how is your current system working for you?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Definitely for it. Why would I want it to be against me like it has been for centuries.

Why?

Because of the insanity of refusing to establish discipline.

I understand that the Left has already eviscerated education in this nation, but for any to endorse a discipline policy based on skin color is a posteriori evidence of mental instability.


When the books are finally closed on the factors which destroyed America, folks like you will have a prominent position in the analysis.

I outlined why already. Centuries of discrimination based on racial prejudice is entrenched in the American perceptions of Black people. You get what you expect. To a hammer everything looks like a nail. Change your mindset and you will get different results. Punitive is only serving to create more problems and more prejudice. In other words how is your current system working for you?

So we can chalk you up as one who sees rectitude in judging folks by their skin color.


Interesting epitaph for your tombstone; certainly deserving.

 

[Asclepias]

Why?

Because of the insanity of refusing to establish discipline.

I understand that the Left has already eviscerated education in this nation, but for any to endorse a discipline policy based on skin color is a posteriori evidence of mental instability.


When the books are finally closed on the factors which destroyed America, folks like you will have a prominent position in the analysis.

I outlined why already. Centuries of discrimination based on racial prejudice is entrenched in the American perceptions of Black people. You get what you expect. To a hammer everything looks like a nail. Change your mindset and you will get different results. Punitive is only serving to create more problems and more prejudice. In other words how is your current system working for you?

So we can chalk you up as one who sees rectitude in judging folks by their skin color.


Interesting epitaph for your tombstone; certainly deserving.

You can chalk me up, write me up, or whatever other way you have of adding me to your insignificant lists. There is nothing wrong with understanding that color plays a large part in how we perceive people in America. Certain ethnicities are cast as the villains and fools like you play along with the game mostly unaware you are being used to line the pockets of some rich guy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I outlined why already. Centuries of discrimination based on racial prejudice is entrenched in the American perceptions of Black people. You get what you expect. To a hammer everything looks like a nail. Change your mindset and you will get different results. Punitive is only serving to create more problems and more prejudice. In other words how is your current system working for you?

So we can chalk you up as one who sees rectitude in judging folks by their skin color.


Interesting epitaph for your tombstone; certainly deserving.

You can chalk me up, write me up, or whatever other way you have of adding me to your insignificant lists. There is nothing wrong with understanding that color plays a large part in how we perceive people in America. Certain ethnicities are cast as the villains and fools like you play along with the game mostly unaware you are being used to line the pockets of some rich guy.

So...you are attempting to hide behind stupidity???

Gonna pretend you don't understand the Holder racialist policies???

He clearly states that even when it is clear that the student has infracted the discipline policies,.....no penalizing if he belongs to an authorized racial group.

Dunce.