Here's the 95 criminals who just got their sentences commuted by Obama

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15 of these guys were convicted of crimes more serious than drug trafficking. They used illegally obtained firearms in their crimes, ranging from armed robbery to using firearms during a drug trafficking crime. So, Obama claims he is concerned about gun violence and wants to make more laws for criminals to ignore. Tell me again how more laws will make a difference when the criminals don't follow the current ones on the books.

Here's some of the charges:

- Possession of a firearm during felony drug offense
- Possession of a firearm by a convicted felon
- Armed robbery (3 counts)
- Using firearms during crime of violence (3 counts)
- Possessing a firearm during a drug trafficking crime
- Use of a firearm during and in relation to drug trafficking
- Felon in possession of a firearm
- Unregistered firearm
- Possession of a firearm with obliterated serial number
- Possession of shotgun w/ barrel length of less than 18"

It's one thing to release non-violent drug offenders. It's way more serious when they are selling hard drugs and using weapons in their crimes. I don't want to hear any more about going after the NRA or legal gun owners who aren't part of this problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/12/18/here-are-the-95-people-whose-sentences-obama-just-commuted/
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.
 
I wonder how many will be back in the system within the next 120 days?

Probably most, if not all of them. Just like the GITMO terrorists went right back to plotting terrorist attacks after he released them.

It makes no sense when he talks about strict gun control, then releases the worst kind of offenders. I guess it's the legal gun owners, who would obey laws, that pose a problem for him.

And the liberals will ignore the illegal guns used in the crimes.
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

That might be true for users. We are talking about armed criminals selling the stuff, a much more serious crime.
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

That might be true for users. We are talking about armed criminals selling the stuff, a much more serious crime.
You would have to compare them to the sentences given to armed criminals selling cocaine to get the right context.
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

Of course that and crack is way more potent and addicting.
 
the war on drugs failed. All but 3 are drug offenders. 2 are bad checks or fraud and 1 is a bank robber who has served 23 years.
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

Of course that and crack is way more potent and addicting.
Not necessarily. Depends how you use them.

Can you tell me about the way the drugs are used, and their effects?

JS: Because powder cocaine and crack have different formulations, they are "used" differently, and therefore have different effects. The different effects are 100 percent related to the way they're used (routes of administration), not the chemical formulation beyond the fact that the differing formulations allow for different routes of administration.

A "high" from snorted cocaine will hit you in about 1-5 minutes, be at its peak within 20-30 minutes, and last 1-2 hours. A "high" from inhaled or injected cocaine will hit you in less than a minute, be at its peak within 3-5 minutes, and last 30 minutes to an hour.

The onset and peak occur much faster with inhaled [if smoked] and injected cocaine, and the user experiences the effects of the drug "all at once" — so the user will get higher than if the same amount of cocaine were snorted.

Crack cocaine is inhaled, but powder cocaine can be injected, resulting in the same onset/peak/duration effect that crack produces.

Because inhalation and injection get the user higher (more drug is delivered all at once), and the high happens faster and wears off faster, the behavior is highly self-reinforcing. This lends itself to repetition, or binges, where the user will use or hit over and over to repeat the high that wears off quickly. This pattern of use makes users that inhale or inject more vulnerable to the addictive effects of the drug.

How does cocaine affect your body?

JS: This is complicated! It affects literally every single organ system in your body. It affects at least 5 or 6 different neurotransmitters in your brain, all at once, in different ways.

Again, the differences between crack and powder cocaine are mainly attributable to the route of administration — how you “do” the drug — so smoking crack can have toxic effects to the lungs that are not problems with snorted cocaine. In the same way, snorted cocaine can have effects on the mucous membranes not seen with smoked crack.
 
The Surprising History of Why Cocaine Is Illegal

One of the strangest elements of these sentencing laws is that smoking crack is not the most dangerous way to ingest cocaine. The most dangerous way to consume cocaine is to inject it, which can only be done with powder cocain

By the 1980s, there was an epidemic of crack use in minority communities. In 2002, over 80 percent of crack defendants were black. Crack is cheaper, so it's found in low income communities more than pure powder cocaine. Powder cocaine use is more evenly spread among ethnic backgrounds, and more white Americans have tried powder cocaine than black Americans. In a step in the right direction, the Fair Sentencing Act (FSA) of 2010 made it so crack sentences are only 18 times as severe as powder cocaine sentences. The Atlantic's Ta-Nehisi Coates says the law is now "one-fifth as racist as it used to be."
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

Of course that and crack is way more potent and addicting.
Not necessarily. Depends how you use them.

Can you tell me about the way the drugs are used, and their effects?

JS: Because powder cocaine and crack have different formulations, they are "used" differently, and therefore have different effects. The different effects are 100 percent related to the way they're used (routes of administration), not the chemical formulation beyond the fact that the differing formulations allow for different routes of administration.

A "high" from snorted cocaine will hit you in about 1-5 minutes, be at its peak within 20-30 minutes, and last 1-2 hours. A "high" from inhaled or injected cocaine will hit you in less than a minute, be at its peak within 3-5 minutes, and last 30 minutes to an hour.

The onset and peak occur much faster with inhaled [if smoked] and injected cocaine, and the user experiences the effects of the drug "all at once" — so the user will get higher than if the same amount of cocaine were snorted.

Crack cocaine is inhaled, but powder cocaine can be injected, resulting in the same onset/peak/duration effect that crack produces.

Because inhalation and injection get the user higher (more drug is delivered all at once), and the high happens faster and wears off faster, the behavior is highly self-reinforcing. This lends itself to repetition, or binges, where the user will use or hit over and over to repeat the high that wears off quickly. This pattern of use makes users that inhale or inject more vulnerable to the addictive effects of the drug.

How does cocaine affect your body?

JS: This is complicated! It affects literally every single organ system in your body. It affects at least 5 or 6 different neurotransmitters in your brain, all at once, in different ways.

Again, the differences between crack and powder cocaine are mainly attributable to the route of administration — how you “do” the drug — so smoking crack can have toxic effects to the lungs that are not problems with snorted cocaine. In the same way, snorted cocaine can have effects on the mucous membranes not seen with smoked crack.

You smoke one and snort the other.
There are no other ways to use either one.
And take it from someone who has tried both....crack is WAY more potent.
Add the fact that blacks are the main users of crack and their penchant for crime and you have a more damaging substance to society.
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

Of course that and crack is way more potent and addicting.
Not necessarily. Depends how you use them.

Can you tell me about the way the drugs are used, and their effects?

JS: Because powder cocaine and crack have different formulations, they are "used" differently, and therefore have different effects. The different effects are 100 percent related to the way they're used (routes of administration), not the chemical formulation beyond the fact that the differing formulations allow for different routes of administration.

A "high" from snorted cocaine will hit you in about 1-5 minutes, be at its peak within 20-30 minutes, and last 1-2 hours. A "high" from inhaled or injected cocaine will hit you in less than a minute, be at its peak within 3-5 minutes, and last 30 minutes to an hour.

The onset and peak occur much faster with inhaled [if smoked] and injected cocaine, and the user experiences the effects of the drug "all at once" — so the user will get higher than if the same amount of cocaine were snorted.

Crack cocaine is inhaled, but powder cocaine can be injected, resulting in the same onset/peak/duration effect that crack produces.

Because inhalation and injection get the user higher (more drug is delivered all at once), and the high happens faster and wears off faster, the behavior is highly self-reinforcing. This lends itself to repetition, or binges, where the user will use or hit over and over to repeat the high that wears off quickly. This pattern of use makes users that inhale or inject more vulnerable to the addictive effects of the drug.

How does cocaine affect your body?

JS: This is complicated! It affects literally every single organ system in your body. It affects at least 5 or 6 different neurotransmitters in your brain, all at once, in different ways.

Again, the differences between crack and powder cocaine are mainly attributable to the route of administration — how you “do” the drug — so smoking crack can have toxic effects to the lungs that are not problems with snorted cocaine. In the same way, snorted cocaine can have effects on the mucous membranes not seen with smoked crack.

You smoke one and snort the other.
There are no other ways to use either one.

I guess you just decided to stick with your ignorance and not read the information I provided.

You can inject cocaine, dumbass. Ever heard of those "IV drug abusers" dying from AIDS?

Yeah.

Now...read: "Crack cocaine is inhaled, but powder cocaine can be injected, resulting in the same onset/peak/duration effect that crack produces."
 
The 95 guys in the OP have been in prison since at least the 90s.

So as for felony gun possession:

The average sentence length for all section 922(g) offenders was 75 months; however, one-quarter of these offenders had an average sentence of 24 months or less while one-quarter had an average sentence of 96 months or more.

75 months is the average. Just over six years.
 
Looks like most of the crimes involve crack. It is well known the punishments for crack (cocaine base) were different than punishments for cocaine. It's just that crack was preferred by blacks while cocaine is preferred by whites.

Of course that and crack is way more potent and addicting.
Not necessarily. Depends how you use them.

Can you tell me about the way the drugs are used, and their effects?

JS: Because powder cocaine and crack have different formulations, they are "used" differently, and therefore have different effects. The different effects are 100 percent related to the way they're used (routes of administration), not the chemical formulation beyond the fact that the differing formulations allow for different routes of administration.

A "high" from snorted cocaine will hit you in about 1-5 minutes, be at its peak within 20-30 minutes, and last 1-2 hours. A "high" from inhaled or injected cocaine will hit you in less than a minute, be at its peak within 3-5 minutes, and last 30 minutes to an hour.

The onset and peak occur much faster with inhaled [if smoked] and injected cocaine, and the user experiences the effects of the drug "all at once" — so the user will get higher than if the same amount of cocaine were snorted.

Crack cocaine is inhaled, but powder cocaine can be injected, resulting in the same onset/peak/duration effect that crack produces.

Because inhalation and injection get the user higher (more drug is delivered all at once), and the high happens faster and wears off faster, the behavior is highly self-reinforcing. This lends itself to repetition, or binges, where the user will use or hit over and over to repeat the high that wears off quickly. This pattern of use makes users that inhale or inject more vulnerable to the addictive effects of the drug.

How does cocaine affect your body?

JS: This is complicated! It affects literally every single organ system in your body. It affects at least 5 or 6 different neurotransmitters in your brain, all at once, in different ways.

Again, the differences between crack and powder cocaine are mainly attributable to the route of administration — how you “do” the drug — so smoking crack can have toxic effects to the lungs that are not problems with snorted cocaine. In the same way, snorted cocaine can have effects on the mucous membranes not seen with smoked crack.

You smoke one and snort the other.
There are no other ways to use either one.

I guess you just decided to stick with your ignorance and not read the information I provided.

You can inject cocaine, dumbass. Ever heard of those "IV drug abusers" dying from AIDS?

Yeah.

Now...read: "Crack cocaine is inhaled, but powder cocaine can be injected, resulting in the same onset/peak/duration effect that crack produces."

And you prove your ignorance yet again. You cant inject powder without altering it.
The same way crack is altered to make it more potent..
In order of effectiveness and potency..Injecting,crack and powder.
All three are in different forms when used.

It just so happens the criminal class like crack which of course leads to more crime.
 
15 of these guys were convicted of crimes more serious than drug trafficking. They used illegally obtained firearms in their crimes, ranging from armed robbery to using firearms during a drug trafficking crime. So, Obama claims he is concerned about gun violence and wants to make more laws for criminals to ignore. Tell me again how more laws will make a difference when the criminals don't follow the current ones on the books.

Here's some of the charges:

- Possession of a firearm during felony drug offense
- Possession of a firearm by a convicted felon
- Armed robbery (3 counts)
- Using firearms during crime of violence (3 counts)
- Possessing a firearm during a drug trafficking crime
- Use of a firearm during and in relation to drug trafficking
- Felon in possession of a firearm
- Unregistered firearm
- Possession of a firearm with obliterated serial number
- Possession of shotgun w/ barrel length of less than 18"

It's one thing to release non-violent drug offenders. It's way more serious when they are selling hard drugs and using weapons in their crimes. I don't want to hear any more about going after the NRA or legal gun owners who aren't part of this problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/12/18/here-are-the-95-people-whose-sentences-obama-just-commuted/

33,000 applied, 184 celmencies granted after a long assessment while 181,149 did not meet the requirements and denied .

I bet that you complain about your high taxes as well......:hmpf:





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