Here's the thing about CharlottesvilleIt

[Rustic]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

 

[Correll]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

The ONE tactic they have to try to create the illusion that they matter, to those who might be potential recruits,

is to gloam onto something or someone who does matter, to steal some of it or their legitimacy.


Thus you see nazis talking nice about a man with Jews in his family.

They are working with the liberal media.

Both of them have interests that coincide.


BOth of them want to create the illusion of a far larger and more powerful neo nazi movement.

Both of them want to creat an illusion of a connection between the sad pathetic fringe and the vastly larger and powerful republican/conservative/trump movement(s).




You liberals are the only ally these guys have, and if anyone or anything can ever grow them into a real force.


it is you.

Only you can do it.

What utter nonsense. No one on the left is responsible for the KKK endorsing Trump for president.

I went on to explain the motive that the lib media gives the neo nazis to make such "endorsements".


Do you want to explain your disagreement with that, or were you hoping that your unsupported empty statement would be the end of the discussion?

 

[The Original Tree]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

They are useful tools.. USEFUL TO THEIR COMMUNISTS LEFTISTS and THE LEFTIST MEDIA, who share the same goals AS THE FASCIST LEFTISTS. Same as when at one time The Soviet Union and Fascist Nazi Germany were allied.

 

[Correll]

'Jews will not replace us!' Now that's the way to peacefully protect a statue, no argument. Less than a minute in....

QUOTE FROM YOUR FUCKING VIDEO at 3:43:

NEO NAZI:

"IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, NOT SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"

You fucking liar... you misquoted that piece of shit.

He didn't say, "Not someone like Donald Trump..."

He said, "Somebody like Donald Trump..."

Why did you insert the word, "NOT" in there when the Nazi didn't??

YOu think he said, or meant to say this?


IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, ... SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"



You are claiming that the nazi considers giving your daughter to a jew to be evidence of being "more capable"?



That really does not make sense to me. More likely if he did not say, "not", he meant to.

He said what I quoted, not what The Original Tree misquoted.

Why lie unless the truth is not on your side?

I'm not going to listen to a 22 min tape of nazis.

But as I pointed out, in the post you hit the reply button for, the quote makes no sense, if you are correct.


It is far more likely, even if you are correct and that that is what he said, that he meant to say "not".


Why would you hit the reply button and make a point that I already covered in the post you were replying too?


You aren't TRYING to use the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, are you?

 

[Faun]

'Jews will not replace us!' Now that's the way to peacefully protect a statue, no argument. Less than a minute in....

These groups make up just 0.0003% of the population. Why give hate a voice?

Because there was a time when Nazi's made up only 0.0003% of the population in Germany and the advantage of hindsight teaches us what happens if you let it grow.

The neo nazis here in America have been pathetically small and weak for longer than the Nazi Party existed in Germany.


They have no message, no base, no support in the mainstream society, nothing.


Ignore them to death.

You're as free to ignore them as others are free to not ignore them.

The long history of barely hanging on, even as a fringe movement, for generations, is not a sign of impending growth.

As you can see, there are those in the U.S. who are determined to not let it grow.

 

[bodecea]

From what I've seen, many on the so-called right are running to the nearest camera and microphone to cower and capitulate to the virtue signalling left.

'So-called right'? Do you go with the line that fascists are actually socialists?

Of course they are, dumbass.

That's why you support them.

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[Rustic]

These groups make up just 0.0003% of the population. Why give hate a voice?

Because there was a time when Nazi's made up only 0.0003% of the population in Germany and the advantage of hindsight teaches us what happens if you let it grow.

The neo nazis here in America have been pathetically small and weak for longer than the Nazi Party existed in Germany.


They have no message, no base, no support in the mainstream society, nothing.


Ignore them to death.

You're as free to ignore them as others are free to not ignore them.

The long history of barely hanging on, even as a fringe movement, for generations, is not a sign of impending growth.

As you can see, there are those in the U.S. who are determined to not let it grow.

 

[bodecea]

The era the statues were erected were not to commemorate the South's best Traitors to the United States of America...they were put up to intimidate black people during the Jim Crow era, where black people were kept from voting and new laws were created to imprison them, and laws written to take the right to vote away from prisoners who always had the right to vote in prison before the civil war if white.... and segregation etc etc etc

History shows they were not put up, for any kind of goodness or commemoration in a good sense of an alleged war hero or heritage.

That's just a fact.

so WHY is keeping these statues up, when they were placed where they are for nefarious and evil reasons, so important? Makes no sense to me???

They belong in a Museum, to commemorate History, with a lot more details.

Yes...with detailed information on the Lost Cause propaganda storm.

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[Faun]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

 

[bodecea]

The era the statues were erected were not to commemorate the South's best Traitors to the United States of America...they were put up to intimidate black people during the Jim Crow era, where black people were kept from voting and new laws were created to imprison them, and laws written to take the right to vote away from prisoners who always had the right to vote in prison before the civil war if white.... and segregation etc etc etc

History shows they were not put up, for any kind of goodness or commemoration in a good sense of an alleged war hero or heritage.

That's just a fact.

so WHY is keeping these statues up, when they were placed where they are for nefarious and evil reasons, so important? Makes no sense to me???

They belong in a Museum, to commemorate History, with a lot more details.

I am fascinated. The "SPECIFIC" reason for putting up a statue of a general like Robert
E Lee was to "INTIMIDATE BLACKs......." I am not DENYING your allegation----it just seems
silly to me...... You got anything to support your allegation? Laws removing the right to
vote from felons were created SPECIFICALLY to target blacks? I assume that would be sometime
in the mid 1800s-----you got something to support that allegation?. I am not denying the fact that
blacks were oppressed in the south

Read up on The Lost Cause....it was a well organized propaganda campaign to re-write history in the South.

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[bodecea]

The era the statues were erected were not to commemorate the South's best Traitors to the United States of America...they were put up to intimidate black people during the Jim Crow era, where black people were kept from voting and new laws were created to imprison them, and laws written to take the right to vote away from prisoners who always had the right to vote in prison before the civil war if white.... and segregation etc etc etc

That's your viewpoint and that's FINE! I have NO objection to your viewpoint. I don't necessarily agree with you but I respect your right to express your viewpoint. The thing is, YOU haven't been put in charge of deciding these issues for all! YOU don't get to write yourself a pass to violate the First Amendment because you don't like something.

What's wrong with letting the COMMUNITY decide and you keeping your fucking virtue-signalling nose out of it? It's ironic that YOU are being the FASCIST here! You want to use your iron fist to demand society conform to your demands... Mussolini couldn't be more proud!

The community DID decide...the the so-called " Unite the Right" thugs showed up.

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[Faun]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

The ONE tactic they have to try to create the illusion that they matter, to those who might be potential recruits,

is to gloam onto something or someone who does matter, to steal some of it or their legitimacy.


Thus you see nazis talking nice about a man with Jews in his family.

They are working with the liberal media.

Both of them have interests that coincide.


BOth of them want to create the illusion of a far larger and more powerful neo nazi movement.

Both of them want to creat an illusion of a connection between the sad pathetic fringe and the vastly larger and powerful republican/conservative/trump movement(s).




You liberals are the only ally these guys have, and if anyone or anything can ever grow them into a real force.


it is you.

Only you can do it.

What utter nonsense. No one on the left is responsible for the KKK endorsing Trump for president.

I went on to explain the motive that the lib media gives the neo nazis to make such "endorsements".


Do you want to explain your disagreement with that, or were you hoping that your unsupported empty statement would be the end of the discussion?

You made no point. All you did was assert they work together while offering zero corroborating evidence.

 

[Rustic]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

 

[Faun]

'Jews will not replace us!' Now that's the way to peacefully protect a statue, no argument. Less than a minute in....

QUOTE FROM YOUR FUCKING VIDEO at 3:43:

NEO NAZI:

"IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, NOT SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"

You fucking liar... you misquoted that piece of shit.

He didn't say, "Not someone like Donald Trump..."

He said, "Somebody like Donald Trump..."

Why did you insert the word, "NOT" in there when the Nazi didn't??

YOu think he said, or meant to say this?


IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, ... SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"



You are claiming that the nazi considers giving your daughter to a jew to be evidence of being "more capable"?



That really does not make sense to me. More likely if he did not say, "not", he meant to.

He said what I quoted, not what The Original Tree misquoted.

Why lie unless the truth is not on your side?

I'm not going to listen to a 22 min tape of nazis.

But as I pointed out, in the post you hit the reply button for, the quote makes no sense, if you are correct.


It is far more likely, even if you are correct and that that is what he said, that he meant to say "not".


Why would you hit the reply button and make a point that I already covered in the post you were replying too?


You aren't TRYING to use the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, are you?

LOLOL

So you're not going to listen to what the guy actually says... but you think you know what he meant.

 

[Faun]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

Hitler was far more fascist than socialist.

 

[Rustic]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

Hitler was far more fascist than socialist.

Really the same difference, socialism was the very name of Hitler's party. He acted far more left than anything else.

 

[Care4all]

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

Hitler was far more fascist than socialist.

Really the same difference, socialism was the very name of Hitler's party. He acted far more left than anything else.

NO HE DID NOT act more socialist than fascist! THAT is simply bonkers!

 

[Rustic]

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

Hitler was far more fascist than socialist.

Really the same difference, socialism was the very name of Hitler's party. He acted far more left than anything else.

NO HE DID NOT act more socialist than fascist! THAT is simply bonkers!

Actually he did, everything was about the collective with him… That's how you define socialism

 

[Marion Morrison]

I know we've beaten this topic to death here and there must be at least a few dozen threads on the topic at least, but I feel like there is a profound point or two that needs to be made. You can agree with me or disagree, I don't really care. This is simply my viewpoint on the situation as a whole.

First of all, to view this as a binary left/right issue is patently stupid. In fact, to view this as a singular issue is equally foolish. This is actually several issues rolled into one and it's being promoted as a binary narrative by the media and the liberal left, as well as many on the right who've fallen for the trap.

Let's get some things in order so we have clarity. Charlottesville had proposed removing a Confederate monument citing it's offensiveness to certain citizens. A group of people who opposed this obtained a permit to peacefully protest the removal. The group was "Unite the Right" ...not a hate group, not white supremacists. However, several neo-nazi and KKK hate groups showed up to join the protest. Also showing up was Antifa, a radical extremist left organization who came to violently protest the protesters. The police, whether overtly or passively, were instructed to not intervene and violence erupted between the fringe extremist elements at the protest. It quickly got out of control and resulted in a slimeball white supremacist killing someone with his car.

Since then, the left has exploited the tragedy to score political points and bash Trump, Republicans, the right, Conservatives and everyone who is not a left wing liberal. The right, for the most part, have condemned the actions of the white supremacists and the violence from both sides while questioning where the police were. Trump made the statement that "there were good people on both sides." This was immediately attacked by the left and media who are fully invested in a binary narrative.

Trump was correct. There were good people on both sides. Not both sides of the violent extremist groups, but both sides of the issue regarding the removal of the statue. The peaceful protesters who didn't engage in violence. They were there to exercise their First Amendment rights. And this is where the left (and some on the right) are completely missing the point. There is more than one issue here!

First there is the issue of whether or not a Confederate statue is appropriate. Some say yes, some say no, and it doesn't have anything to do with racism or white supremacy. No doubt, there are some who favor keeping the statues who are white supremacists. There are also some who favor tearing down the statues because they hold a racist view toward white people. But these elements do not represent the vast majority of the general public. Most people who favor keeping the statues are viewing it as a historical thing that we shouldn't change because some may be offended. Most people opposed are doing so in deference to sensitivities of those who are offended. Both sides have a valid and compelling point that has nothing to do with white supremacy.

In a free society, we should be able to engage in these kind of debates without things devolving into violence. We cannot condemn violence from one side while turning a blind eye to violence from the other. We have to consistently condemn ALL the violence because that's how free society operates.

So now we see there is a clear secondary issue here. It's the right of free people to peacefully protest. Whether you agree or disagree with the right or left on this issue or any other, you should support their right to peacefully demonstrate. Violence is totally unacceptable... right OR left! It doesn't matter if you view one side as abhorrent and intolerable, they still have the right to peacefully demonstrate and you don't have the right to violently attack them.

Some on the Left have attempted to argue that "Hate Speech" isn't protected by the First Amendment. This is patently absurd. So-called "Hate Speech" is exactly what IS protected! Non-offensive speech doesn't require protection. The Left has concocted this "Hate Speech" label to apply to any speech they disagree with politically, and that's a very dangerous thing to do. You can denounce what you consider "hate speech" but you don't have any right to shut it down, especially not with violence. Once you've crossed that line into violent acts, you've lost your freedom of speech and you need to go to jail.

I don't care what they say about ya, you're all right!

This could be OP of the year!

 

[Faun]

Liar....

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

Hitler was far more fascist than socialist.

Really the same difference, socialism was the very name of Hitler's party. He acted far more left than anything else.

That you think there's little difference between socialism and fascism only serves to expose your ignorance.

Just as pointing to "socialist" being what Nazi's called themselves as evidence they were socialist does.

They were socialist like North Korea is Democratic.