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Hmm a lot of smoke but no substance
Well let me take my hat off but please do not sit on it
1.The Hillary campaign paid for an anti-Trump Russian creation called the dossier: they used law firm Perkins Coie to funnel money to GPS Fusion and Christopher Steele
Fusion GPS is a firm paid to do research and in election years, the firm is mostly focused on political opposition research finding the dirt on a client’s opponent. It may not be ethical but it is not illegal
Fusion GPS was originally hired by The Free Beacon, a conservative website that you probably visit often to get your info but they wanted to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump.
After Trump clinched the nomination then they stopped. Clinton then picked up where they left off looking for Trumps Russian connection.
Fusion GPS hired Steele
Some claims in the Dossier were found to be true and some were false
Still both parties do opposition research and the intelligence community was picking up pro Trump propaganda from the Russians.
Trump team members had involvement with Russian and they lied about it and got caught lying.
2. The Hillary campaign screamed that they had been hacked, but refused to allow any government agencies to inspect the supposedly hacked servers
yet we know exact what happen. Russians operatives working for the Russian intelligence directorate, the GRU, sent dozens of targeted spearphishing emails in just five days to the work and personal accounts of Clinton Campaign employees and volunteers, as a way to break into the campaign’s computer systems. Using credentials that they stole they hacked into the DNC computers. Some 70 gigabytes of data were exfiltrated from Clinton’s campaign servers and some 300 gigabytes of data were obtained from the DNC’s network. Much of the information was eventually released thru various outlets including wikileak.
Still state your source where she denied for them to inspect the SUPPOSEDLY hacked servers. IT doen't make sense for her to not let them do their job especially when she was the victim of a crime.
Coincidence that they hack her computer and DNC computers within hours of Trump boasted that he hope Russian Finds those emails
3. The FBI admitted that they knew the dossier was fake from the start, but used it to get a FISA warrant to surveil Trump and associates
No they did not use the dossier to get the FISA warrent. They did mention the dossier in the warrant but it was not the reason for the warrant.
The FISA warrant was issued mainly against Carter Page NOT Trump
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...isa-documents-foia-release/full/optimized.pdf
line clearly states that Carter Page was the target of the FISA and Carter Page has plead guilty.
The Dossier was mention and Steele name is listed in the FISA document as the dossier mentions that Trump associates were meeting with Russians.
This was also after Russians hacked Hillary and WikiLeak released the emails.
indisputable facts
Carter denied involvement but he later admitted that he lied
The warrants also talk about Russian interference in the election which is undeniable
Later warrants mentions George P
page 17 clearly talks about Steele as he has been used by the FBI before and was deemed trustworthy for the info he provided and credible.
4. A secret cabal at the highest levels of the FBI and the DoJ worked with GPS Fusion to undermine the Trump campaign...before and after the election.ly data on Huma and Anthony Weiner’s laptop….so they gave them a pass
Wow secret, Wow highest level, AND THEY THEN OVERLOOKED DATA. Provide proof not speculation
6. The FBI decided no charges against Hillary before they interviewed her…..with no record kept of the interview, and not under oath.
They had gotten everything they needed from her servers. They said that she had classified information on the servers. They decided not to prosecute. The same thing when they said they would not prosecute Trump on Collusion. Not enough evidence and intent could not be established.
7. Both Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were found to be lying to the FBI….but given a pass ...and allowed to keep their laptops, and destroy any evidence on same
IF they lied then that is a crime but they were not prosecuted. State your official source that this happen and not some right wing website.
8. FBI agents Strzok and Page and McCabe talked over a plan to overturn the election….an ‘insurance policy’
again state your source as to this PLAN as there is no way that the FBI can overturn an election.
9. Loretta Lynch with Comey’s acquiescence, worked to benefit Hillary’s campaign
Alligations but no proof - I am getting tired of PROVE IT
10. Obama knew about Hillary’s use of unsecured emails, as he conversed with her on same…kept his name out of the reports.
So what, Ivanka uses unsecured server.
11. BTW…..Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein were all government officials when Hillary received the $145 million bribe for the sale of our uranium.
Why is she not in jail if this bribe happen. Could it be it didn't happen and it is just speculation on your part or your ability to read others websites.
....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....
SO what . What is the crime that happen with Uranium One ?????
Nothing has been proven. Various department heads all agreed to the sell. Russian investors big whop ti do
Why weren't the other heads blamed as a matter of fact this was more a matter with another department.
The uranium leaving the country 4 enrichment was approved by another department and Hillary had nothing to do with it.
I would assumed that it eventually made it back as I haven't heard or read anything about it accept for your GHOST stories
12. The FBI offered to pay Christopher Steele if he could corroborate the dossier….so he told Yahoo New’s Michael Isikoff about the dossier, had him print the information….then told the FBI that Isikoff independently discovered the “facts”…
Why would he collaborate the dossier when it was turned over to them. They knew Steele did the dossier as mentioned in the FISA report
Steele admitted, in a British court, that he leaked the material to Yahoo. September 23 Yahoo ran the story.
The FBI took the Isikoff Yahoo story to the FISA court to get the warrant….then fired Steele for sharing it with news outlets.
13. After the FBI fired Steele, he continued to confer with Bruce Ohr and the DoJ…and Rod Rosestein and Sally Yates.
In September of 2016, this was Steele’s statement to Bruce Ohr that he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”
So he wasn't a trump supporter. Big wop. A dossier is unsubstantiated data. It is up to the authorities to proof that it is valid. IF they can't then end of story. It it is proven then indictments will follow.
14. And in another stunning revelation, the memo asserts that Justice Department official Bruce Ohr was used to pass information from the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, to the DOJ.
Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, worked at the time for Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm research firm that commissioned the dossier. Bruce Ohr, who worked closely with Deputy Attorney Generals Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein, passed his wife’s opposition research on Trump to the FBI, the memo says.
DUh, So they wanted to get this info into FBI hands so that they can investigate
Well we know Trump who does not have a problem getting dirt on opponents and said so , would probably not turned it over to the FBI
15. Fired by the FBI as untrustworthy, Steele is maintained by the DoJ as a contact, and all the while, Bruce Ohr’s wife is drawing a salary from the group Hillary hired to produce the dossier….GPS Fusion.
Bruce Ohr’s wife’s connections to Hillary’s paid dossier-producers, GPS Fusion, was never disclosed to the FISA court.
Duh Steele was not fired by the FBI as he was in the British Intelligence prior to doing paid research on his own. working for BI from 1987 to 2009 and he retired BI and started his own businees how can he be fired by the FBI. Gee whiz
16. Not Hillary Clinton’s Campaign, nor the DNC, nor Christopher Steel, nor Fusion GPS, nor Bruce Ohr’s wife, the roles of none of these participants in the creation of the dossier….not a one was revealed to the FISA court.
Christopher Steel was and is in the FISA. The others are irrelevant as they just hired him and a warrant does depend on who hired the research. It just depends on what the FBI reports as the reason for the warrant.
17. The memo also says that the FBI’s deputy director, Andrew McCabe, told Congress that a FISA warrant against the campaign adviser, Carter Page, would not have been granted without use of the dossier. That despite the FBI later determining that very little of the Democrat-funded document was corroborated
state your source, the FISA had almost 20 pages of info and the Dossier was mention on half a page. The courts know what a dossier is. Do you???? its unsubstantiated data.
18. Let’s compare the zealous and very aggressive action by Mueller against Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, and Carter Page with the immunity and passes given above…..
Flynn cooperated and admitted wrong and they recommended some leniency because of his coooperation. Manafort played games and got the book thrown at him. GP and CP cooperated. Manafort pretended that he wanted to cooperate but didn't and in the end his only crime was failure to pay taxes. The others basically lied to the FBI on meeting with Russians on behalf of the Trump campaign
I do not have a problem with that
19..The memo notes that the Papadopoulos information “triggered” the FBI investigation into possible Trump campaign collusion.
It says that there is no evidence that Page and Papadopoulos engaged in a conspiracy. “
Spy Warrant Granted Based On Dossier And News Stories Planted By Fusion GPS
They lied to the FBI and both admitted it.
…and lots of evidence of associations of Democrats with the Kremlin….
…completely different treatment.
20. And all of the players in on the fix were demanding the Memo not be released….and lied about why it should not be released.
I really thing that you have a problem with understanding things. Life is not a CONSPIRACY.
But being a Trump support maybe
First and foremost, I have the greatest appreciation for the effort you put into this post. It is rare to see it, and it deserves kudos.
Now..."Fusion GPS was originally hired by The Free Beacon, a conservative website that you probably visit often to get your info but they wanted to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump.:
Let me correct your error.
1. The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.
What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
The Russian parts of the dossier were all from the DNC and Hillary.
Still you just repeat everything that I wrote but disagree on who started it.
The only point was Fusion GPS was hired by a republican to get dope on Trump and started the ball rolling once it starts rolling it expands
The beginning give you an understanding on where it began. ignoring it is just an inconvenient truth.
I'm curious...did any Republican pay Fusion GPS to create false "dope" on Trump? That's what the Clinton campaign paid them to do. It's a HUGE difference!
False dirt is in the eyes of the beholder
Steel dossier contain some information that was accurate and some which was not.
Not true. Not one thng in the Steele fairy tale (dossier) has been verified. I don't know where you got your information from, but I suggest you find better news sources.
Hmm a lot of smoke but no substance
Well let me take my hat off but please do not sit on it
1.The Hillary campaign paid for an anti-Trump Russian creation called the dossier: they used law firm Perkins Coie to funnel money to GPS Fusion and Christopher Steele
Fusion GPS is a firm paid to do research and in election years, the firm is mostly focused on political opposition research finding the dirt on a client’s opponent. It may not be ethical but it is not illegal
Fusion GPS was originally hired by The Free Beacon, a conservative website that you probably visit often to get your info but they wanted to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump.
After Trump clinched the nomination then they stopped. Clinton then picked up where they left off looking for Trumps Russian connection.
Fusion GPS hired Steele
Some claims in the Dossier were found to be true and some were false
Still both parties do opposition research and the intelligence community was picking up pro Trump propaganda from the Russians.
Trump team members had involvement with Russian and they lied about it and got caught lying.
2. The Hillary campaign screamed that they had been hacked, but refused to allow any government agencies to inspect the supposedly hacked servers
yet we know exact what happen. Russians operatives working for the Russian intelligence directorate, the GRU, sent dozens of targeted spearphishing emails in just five days to the work and personal accounts of Clinton Campaign employees and volunteers, as a way to break into the campaign’s computer systems. Using credentials that they stole they hacked into the DNC computers. Some 70 gigabytes of data were exfiltrated from Clinton’s campaign servers and some 300 gigabytes of data were obtained from the DNC’s network. Much of the information was eventually released thru various outlets including wikileak.
Still state your source where she denied for them to inspect the SUPPOSEDLY hacked servers. IT doen't make sense for her to not let them do their job especially when she was the victim of a crime.
Coincidence that they hack her computer and DNC computers within hours of Trump boasted that he hope Russian Finds those emails
3. The FBI admitted that they knew the dossier was fake from the start, but used it to get a FISA warrant to surveil Trump and associates
No they did not use the dossier to get the FISA warrent. They did mention the dossier in the warrant but it was not the reason for the warrant.
The FISA warrant was issued mainly against Carter Page NOT Trump
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...isa-documents-foia-release/full/optimized.pdf
line clearly states that Carter Page was the target of the FISA and Carter Page has plead guilty.
The Dossier was mention and Steele name is listed in the FISA document as the dossier mentions that Trump associates were meeting with Russians.
This was also after Russians hacked Hillary and WikiLeak released the emails.
indisputable facts
Carter denied involvement but he later admitted that he lied
The warrants also talk about Russian interference in the election which is undeniable
Later warrants mentions George P
page 17 clearly talks about Steele as he has been used by the FBI before and was deemed trustworthy for the info he provided and credible.
4. A secret cabal at the highest levels of the FBI and the DoJ worked with GPS Fusion to undermine the Trump campaign...before and after the election.ly data on Huma and Anthony Weiner’s laptop….so they gave them a pass
Wow secret, Wow highest level, AND THEY THEN OVERLOOKED DATA. Provide proof not speculation
6. The FBI decided no charges against Hillary before they interviewed her…..with no record kept of the interview, and not under oath.
They had gotten everything they needed from her servers. They said that she had classified information on the servers. They decided not to prosecute. The same thing when they said they would not prosecute Trump on Collusion. Not enough evidence and intent could not be established.
7. Both Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were found to be lying to the FBI….but given a pass ...and allowed to keep their laptops, and destroy any evidence on same
IF they lied then that is a crime but they were not prosecuted. State your official source that this happen and not some right wing website.
8. FBI agents Strzok and Page and McCabe talked over a plan to overturn the election….an ‘insurance policy’
again state your source as to this PLAN as there is no way that the FBI can overturn an election.
9. Loretta Lynch with Comey’s acquiescence, worked to benefit Hillary’s campaign
Alligations but no proof - I am getting tired of PROVE IT
10. Obama knew about Hillary’s use of unsecured emails, as he conversed with her on same…kept his name out of the reports.
So what, Ivanka uses unsecured server.
11. BTW…..Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein were all government officials when Hillary received the $145 million bribe for the sale of our uranium.
Why is she not in jail if this bribe happen. Could it be it didn't happen and it is just speculation on your part or your ability to read others websites.
....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....
SO what . What is the crime that happen with Uranium One ?????
Nothing has been proven. Various department heads all agreed to the sell. Russian investors big whop ti do
Why weren't the other heads blamed as a matter of fact this was more a matter with another department.
The uranium leaving the country 4 enrichment was approved by another department and Hillary had nothing to do with it.
I would assumed that it eventually made it back as I haven't heard or read anything about it accept for your GHOST stories
12. The FBI offered to pay Christopher Steele if he could corroborate the dossier….so he told Yahoo New’s Michael Isikoff about the dossier, had him print the information….then told the FBI that Isikoff independently discovered the “facts”…
Why would he collaborate the dossier when it was turned over to them. They knew Steele did the dossier as mentioned in the FISA report
Steele admitted, in a British court, that he leaked the material to Yahoo. September 23 Yahoo ran the story.
The FBI took the Isikoff Yahoo story to the FISA court to get the warrant….then fired Steele for sharing it with news outlets.
13. After the FBI fired Steele, he continued to confer with Bruce Ohr and the DoJ…and Rod Rosestein and Sally Yates.
In September of 2016, this was Steele’s statement to Bruce Ohr that he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”
So he wasn't a trump supporter. Big wop. A dossier is unsubstantiated data. It is up to the authorities to proof that it is valid. IF they can't then end of story. It it is proven then indictments will follow.
14. And in another stunning revelation, the memo asserts that Justice Department official Bruce Ohr was used to pass information from the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, to the DOJ.
Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, worked at the time for Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm research firm that commissioned the dossier. Bruce Ohr, who worked closely with Deputy Attorney Generals Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein, passed his wife’s opposition research on Trump to the FBI, the memo says.
DUh, So they wanted to get this info into FBI hands so that they can investigate
Well we know Trump who does not have a problem getting dirt on opponents and said so , would probably not turned it over to the FBI
15. Fired by the FBI as untrustworthy, Steele is maintained by the DoJ as a contact, and all the while, Bruce Ohr’s wife is drawing a salary from the group Hillary hired to produce the dossier….GPS Fusion.
Bruce Ohr’s wife’s connections to Hillary’s paid dossier-producers, GPS Fusion, was never disclosed to the FISA court.
Duh Steele was not fired by the FBI as he was in the British Intelligence prior to doing paid research on his own. working for BI from 1987 to 2009 and he retired BI and started his own businees how can he be fired by the FBI. Gee whiz
16. Not Hillary Clinton’s Campaign, nor the DNC, nor Christopher Steel, nor Fusion GPS, nor Bruce Ohr’s wife, the roles of none of these participants in the creation of the dossier….not a one was revealed to the FISA court.
Christopher Steel was and is in the FISA. The others are irrelevant as they just hired him and a warrant does depend on who hired the research. It just depends on what the FBI reports as the reason for the warrant.
17. The memo also says that the FBI’s deputy director, Andrew McCabe, told Congress that a FISA warrant against the campaign adviser, Carter Page, would not have been granted without use of the dossier. That despite the FBI later determining that very little of the Democrat-funded document was corroborated
state your source, the FISA had almost 20 pages of info and the Dossier was mention on half a page. The courts know what a dossier is. Do you???? its unsubstantiated data.
18. Let’s compare the zealous and very aggressive action by Mueller against Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, and Carter Page with the immunity and passes given above…..
Flynn cooperated and admitted wrong and they recommended some leniency because of his coooperation. Manafort played games and got the book thrown at him. GP and CP cooperated. Manafort pretended that he wanted to cooperate but didn't and in the end his only crime was failure to pay taxes. The others basically lied to the FBI on meeting with Russians on behalf of the Trump campaign
I do not have a problem with that
19..The memo notes that the Papadopoulos information “triggered” the FBI investigation into possible Trump campaign collusion.
It says that there is no evidence that Page and Papadopoulos engaged in a conspiracy. “
Spy Warrant Granted Based On Dossier And News Stories Planted By Fusion GPS
They lied to the FBI and both admitted it.
…and lots of evidence of associations of Democrats with the Kremlin….
…completely different treatment.
20. And all of the players in on the fix were demanding the Memo not be released….and lied about why it should not be released.
I really thing that you have a problem with understanding things. Life is not a CONSPIRACY.
But being a Trump support maybe
First and foremost, I have the greatest appreciation for the effort you put into this post. It is rare to see it, and it deserves kudos.
Now..."Fusion GPS was originally hired by The Free Beacon, a conservative website that you probably visit often to get your info but they wanted to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump.:
Let me correct your error.
1. The dossier was supposedly started by a Republican (Paul Singer) during the primaries as he hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump. Here is the lie there – whatever was paid for by Singer was his work product not part of the Steele dossier. Once Trump won the nomination and the Democrats in their devious way (through a couple of layers to hide who was the actual customer) engaged Fusion GPS, it would have been highly unethical for the company to turn over the work product of one customer to another. That would have been Singer’s to do. This dossier started all over and that is why they engaged Steele to gin up this Russian story.
What They Will Not Tell You About 'The Memo'
The Russian parts of the dossier were all from the DNC and Hillary.
Still you just repeat everything that I wrote but disagree on who started it.
The only point was Fusion GPS was hired by a republican to get dope on Trump and started the ball rolling once it starts rolling it expands
The beginning give you an understanding on where it began. ignoring it is just an inconvenient truth.
I'm curious...did any Republican pay Fusion GPS to create false "dope" on Trump? That's what the Clinton campaign paid them to do. It's a HUGE difference!
False dirt is in the eyes of the beholder
Steel dossier contain some information that was accurate and some which was not.
What you say is a lie. Nothing in the Steele fairy tale (dossier) was verified. I don't know where you got our information but I suggest you find better news sources.
This whole Russian collusion thing started with the infamous Steele dossier. This obviously fictitious compilation of documents was trumpeted by the MSM as being the God-given truth and many people, including some posters on the USMB foolishly believed it. It's time to set the record straight once and for all.
There are a number of reasons why the fairy tale called the dossier should never have been believed. First, the author of the dossier had an intense and irrational hatred of Trump and would say or do anything to destroy his chance of getting elected. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he "was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president." This clear evidence of Steele's bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files—but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.
The Nunes FBI Memo, Annotated
Steele's animosity towards Trump should have put everyone on notice that nothing he says can be believed unless verified by an independent credible source. So far that has not happened and I'm sure it never will. Some news sources claimed that parts of the dossier were verified but they never mentioned which parts were true. This omission proves they know nothing about the documents .
Second, Steele himself admitted, under oath, that nothing in the fair tale was verified. He further claimed that the documents were never intended to be presented as truthful.
“According to Steele’s courtroom version, the dossier is merely a compilation of bits of “raw intelligence” that were “unverified” and that he passed along because they “warranted further investigation” — i.e., not because he could vouch for their truthfulness. He gave them to American and British government officials, he maintains, only because they raised potential national-security threats, not because they actually established any such threats. That, he now says, was for government investigators to figure out. In sum, Steele’s defamation defense is not that what he wrote was true but that his reports “must be critically viewed in light of the purpose for and circumstances in which the information was collected.” There is laugh-out-loud stuff here: Steele’s declamation of his profound commitment to discretion and secrecy lest his “raw,” “unverified,” and possibly false reports defame anyone. He claimed that he and Fusion GPS had a solemn agreement not to disclose his work . . . except for whenever they decided to disclose his work — including to Fusion’s clients and to major press organs during the stretch run of a contentious presidential election. But not to worry: These discussions were “off the record,” a term Steele claims to have understood to mean “to be used for the purpose of further research but would not be published or attributed.”
Read more at: Steele Dossier: Obama Officials Politicized Unverified ‘Intelligence’ | National Review
Steele also admitted that most of the dossier was based upon on-line comments on what appeared to be a chat/gossip forum
“Transcripts of the closed door deposition of Christopher Steele, the former British spy, reveals he used online comments from a now-defunct CNN website as his major source to compile his infamous “Trump dossier.”
“According to the transcripts, Steele used a website called CNN iReport to back up his wild anti-Trump theories for his 2009 dossier. He now claims he “wasn’t aware” the information he found on the site was an online community forum, and that poster’s comments had not been “checked for accuracy.”
Christopher Steele ADMITS He Based His Entire Dossier on Unverified ONLINE COMMENTS
Third, the dossier was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Generally employees (Christopher Steele) do what their employer (Hillary Clinton) wants them to do, especially when the employee is “desperate” and “passionate” about doing his employer's bidding. Further, Hillary's associates fed allegations to Steele, meaning that not only did Clinton pay for the dossier, she actually helped compose it!
Clinton operatives funneled info to Christopher Steele for Trump dossier
CONCLUSION: No one of average intelligence, knowing the facts, could possibly believe that anything in the dossier was substantiated. The FBI knew it was unverified yet this fairy tale was presented to the FISA courts as being true. The dossier was so important in getting the FISA warrants that then FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe testified that “no surveillance warrant would have been sought” from the FISA court “without the Steele dossier information” (see link below). Everyone involved in this shameful and illegal hoax belongs in prison. Finally, all those who were indicted based upon this illegally obtained “evidence” should be made whole.
House memo states disputed dossier was key to FBI’s FISA warrant to surveil members of Team Trump
Bingo, Prof!
I'm always puzzled at how they get the dead enders to swallow what not only makes no sense.....but has been debunked even by their own accomplices (Mueller).....
You see how most of the ones who were screaming and pounding the table two years ago have mostly given up the ghost.....and all that's left are the bottom of the barrel.
Is that too many mixed metaphors?????
