How dare the working class keep more of what they earned.
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How dare the working class keep more of what they earned.
So wrong, Progressives are those who seek change rapidly, liberals slowly and Republicans are opposed to change. Republicans like and thrive by "donations" from Corporate America and opposed to universal equal opportunities of all citizens as the WASPS' have.Republicans are just progressives with a different label. And the sad part of it is, they don't even realize it. They've never bothered to find out what actual conservatism is.
So wrong, Progressives are those who seek change rapidly, liberals slowly
and Republicans are opposed to change.
As to the topic, I agree with one thing: The Republican Party under the Reagan Administration commended with the set of Callous Conservatives. If anyone is curious as to real conservatives please read the Republican Party's 1956 Platform:
Republican Party Platform of 1956 | The American Presidency Project
www.presidency.ucsb.edu
The libertarian Platform isn't necessarily callous, however it is "Utopin-istic" and "Anarcistic" to coin a couple of words. This opinion to me is based on what a Republic is as defined in Article I of the Constitution.
And Yes I read all of the novels written by Ayn Rand, whose sole core in Objectivism is self serving, aka greed.
What's truly laughable is YOU calling yourself a "libertarian".
You're a white nationalist authoritarian.
Your ONLY interest is in limiting rights for everyone who isn't a white male. Low IQ beta males all worshipping at the feet of their true leader, the loser, Donald J. Trump.
How dare the working class keep more of what they earned.
What's truly laughable is YOU calling yourself a "libertarian". You're a white nationalist authoritarian. \
Your ONLY interest is in limiting rights for everyone who isn't a white male. Low IQ beta males all worshipping at the feet of their true leader, the loser, Donald J. Trump.
Well one thing is for sure it will never happen with a democrat not 1Tax cuts are great. The BS tax cuts we got were laughable, at best. not even 4%. Then throw in the fact that all the tax deductions that were eliminated, the end result was revenue neutral to the IRS and Treasury Dept.
Keep more of our money? Sounds great. Now all we need are fiscal conservatives to pass the tax bill and sign it into law. But that's not going to happen with the current crop of republicans. If it was possible, it would've happened during Trumps first two years.
Well one thing is for sure it will never happen with a democrat not 1
So we should have voted 3rd party and let the Hildabeast win and then allow them to pack the court with Left Wing Moonbats.And it didn't really happen with Trump and his GOP majority. What part of "revenue neutral" do you not understand. Allowing you to keep more here, but taxing you more over there, isn't really a tax cut. It's just political BS made to make you think you're getting a break.
FFS people.
Please, for the love of God and country, learn what TF real conservatism is. Fiscal conservatism. Constitutional Conservatism.
Yall dig way down in the bowels of progressivism, to expose why and how bad democrats and progressives are. But won't even bother looking at who you're voting for or why? I got $10 that says most republicans voted for Trump because of his snappy comebacks to democrats.
Trump's a good talker. Why? Because he's been a salesman his entire life. But that's all he really is.
He's sold his followers a bill of bad goods. They were all thinking the budget was going to get balanced in 4 years. He promised that, and didn't even try.
Said he was going to "lock her up." But the day after the election, called the Clintons his close friends and wasn't going to even try to "lock her up."
The BS lies that got him supported and elected, I could list a mile long. And his supporters would stick their fingers in their ears and sing "LA LA LA LA LA LA."
So we should have voted 3rd party and let the Hildabeast win and then allow them to pack the court with Left Wing Moonbats.
I dont fucking think so. You are Welcome. We stopped that. Trump got the economy Roaring and we produced more oil than in our History. Now look at us with the drooling idiot.
Is your mission to try to get us to vote 3rd party to allow the Moonbats of the left to gain power.
I think so.
I live in Alabama. We caused plus 1 in the Senate and didnt allow Sessions back in.No, Democrats are as much, if not more so a problem than the GOP. But getting the republicans to be more fiscally and constitutionally conservative is a conundrum. That involves getting republican voters to stop being party loyalist, stop voting for people like Trump, McConnell, Ryan and the rest of the CINO's.
"Our victories come at a price." Maybe allowing the democrats to take full charge long enough to get rid of the CINO's might be the answer. Sometimes tough love is the answer.
What ever the solution is, the message needs to be that we're sick of these moderate democrat-like republicans (CINO's) running the party.
One thing is for sure, "immediate gratification" isn't working. "I want it now" means taking what ever is available.
Keep in mind, the powers that be won't allow the democrats to do much harm. The democrats are owned by the same people that own the GOP.
The ACA is an excellent example. Why? Because the ACA is nothing more than a grand gift to the insurance companies. Remember when the democrats whined and complained about the insurance companies? Said their prices were too high, and that it was causing so many Americans to die from a lack of health insurance? Well, did the ACA abolish health insurance companies? No. In fact it made them richer and more powerful.
Why? Because the insurance lobbyist wouldn't allow even the democrats to mess with them.
This is the same way with the oil companies, the banks, big pharma and all the other huge multi billion $$$ corporations. They're not going to allow the democrats or republicans screw with them.
So at the end of the day, nothing really is going to change if the democrats take over, long enough to get rid of the CINO's.
So to answer your initial question, I'd have to say yes. If, and only IF, the republican voters could stand together long enough to force the party to be conservative 100% of the time. And not just when a democrat is in the white house.
A constitutional and fiscal conservative majority in government would:
Cut spending
Cut the size and scope of government
Abolish our policing of the world and regime change wars
Fix the immigration problems without building a wall that restricts Americans from their own land
End lobbying
Destroy the establishment and the lobbyist that own our government.
Allow new sources of energy to evolve. Nuclear Reactors that aren't radioactive for a kazillion years. And with a chance of a melt down.
And so much more.
Fiscal and Constitutional conservatism supports free trade and competition. CINO's support the highest paying lobbyist.
I live in Alabama. We caused plus 1 in the Senate and didnt allow Sessions back in.
You have to do a RINO hunt to fix it. Until then you play the cards you are given.
Voting a 3rd party hands it over to the far left
I made more money with Trump as president. As a matter of fact most working class people got raises under president Trump.And it didn't really happen with Trump and his GOP majority. What part of "revenue neutral" do you not understand. Allowing you to keep more here, but taxing you more over there, isn't really a tax cut. It's just political BS made to make you think you're getting a break.
FFS people.
Please, for the love of God and country, learn what TF real conservatism is. Fiscal conservatism. Constitutional Conservatism.
Yall dig way down in the bowels of progressivism, to expose why and how bad democrats and progressives are. But won't even bother looking at who you're voting for or why? I got $10 that says most republicans voted for Trump because of his snappy comebacks to democrats.
Trump's a good talker. Why? Because he's been a salesman his entire life. But that's all he really is.
He's sold his followers a bill of bad goods. They were all thinking the budget was going to get balanced in 4 years. He promised that, and didn't even try.
Said he was going to "lock her up." But the day after the election, called the Clintons his close friends and wasn't going to even try to "lock her up."
The BS lies that got him supported and elected, I could list a mile long. And his supporters would stick their fingers in their ears and sing "LA LA LA LA LA LA."
I made more money with Trump as president. As a matter of fact most working class people got raises under president Trump.
Bsloney. In primaries I wanted Ben CarsonWhen you discover the CINO's, how are you, or anyone, going to get party loyalist to vote them out? The only way I know is through the primaries. But when the Republican party money backing the CINO's it's almost impossible. Because some or a lot of that party money goes into bashing the CINO's (gop) competition.
The party's are a political monster, that even with poor choices like Hillary and Trump, no 3rd party candidate can defeat. You and I are in agreement on 3rd party's. 3rd party's don't create a solution. But that doesn't mean there's not a solution.
Not necessarily. Trump still won. Almost every Republican elected since 1970 had a third party candidate running against the R & D's. Even more so in the last 20 years. Part of this mountain that faces third party candidates, is the fact that the R & D's will take up for each other, if a 3rd party candidate starts getting any traction and support. This is proof that they're not as much against each other as they seem. It's just part of the smoke & mirrors.
BTW, are you ignoring most of what I'm posting, and just picking out things to argue about? Because I'm making some very deep rooted points here, and you're not commenting on any of them?
Well if that's true what are you complaining about?I made more money with each new president, because I didn't allow who ever was the president to make business decisions for me. In fact, very few people make decisions on their career choices based on who's the president or which party has the majority.
Administration after administration, my income improved.
So what you're saying may be factually true, about your income. But trying to give Trump credit for your personal & business decision is a little disingenuous. Credit yourself, man. Not some politician.
I'm saying most people got raises and big ones at thatI made more money with each new president, because I didn't allow who ever was the president to make business decisions for me. In fact, very few people make decisions on their career choices based on who's the president or which party has the majority.
Administration after administration, my income improved.
So what you're saying may be factually true, about your income. But trying to give Trump credit for your personal & business decision is a little disingenuous. Credit yourself, man. Not some politician.
[/QUOTE]Well if that's true what are you complaining about?
I'm saying most people got raises and big ones at that
Bsloney. In primaries I wanted Ben Carson
When that option left I switched to Trump. In 2024 Id like to see Kristi Noem.
I stand by my decisions given the options. That is reality whether.you like it or not. Had I went 3rd party there would be a left packed Supreme court. No thanks. Not throwing my vote away
You didn't have any choice but to switch to Trump. That's how it works. Unless you just didn't vote. But if you're a die hard loyal republican, you'll vote for who they tell you to vote for.
And like it.