Hillary and Margaret Sanger

[NYcarbineer]

Cain’s False Attack on Planned Parenthood

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”

It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”

Many democrat slave owners believed they were actually helping their black slaves too....

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

Marriage is a constitutional right.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sanger never said that.

wrong:

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

Your quote isn't there.

I didn't get the wording exactly right, but her message is clear, Planned parenthood was designed to reduce the black birth rate by killing unborn black babies.

Birth control does not kill babies. Are you calling legal birth control racist now?

lol

Sanger was huge proponent of aborting back pregnancies as a means of culling the race.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Many democrat slave owners believed they were actually helping their black slaves too....

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

Marriage is a constitutional right.

Really? Where in the U.S. Constitution is that right addressed?

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

Marriage is a constitutional right.

Really? Where in the U.S. Constitution is that right addressed?

By name, it isn't addressed. But if we consider freedom of association, I think we would be ok in including marriage.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

Marriage is a constitutional right.

Really? Where in the U.S. Constitution is that right addressed?

The 14th Amendment. Equal treatment under the law.

 

[rightwinger]

The ridiculous right and their equally ridiculous canard about Sanger.

It's like I said the other day, they can't win against the truth, so all they do is build great piles of horseshit and try to make them look like the truth.

And what’s both sad and amusing is most on the right think people actually believe their ridiculous lies, this moronic thread one of many examples.

Hard to believe that Margaret Sanger understood the importance of family planning 100 years ago.......Conservatives still oppose it

You've already exhibited you don't have the first clue what Sanger was about, I suggest you put down the shovel and stop digging that hole you're in

You are the one rewriting history to match a rightwing 21st century agenda

 

[rightwinger]

Cain’s False Attack on Planned Parenthood

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”

It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”

Many democrat slave owners believed they were actually helping their black slaves too....

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

We were addressing civil rights which republicans oppose
Your second point contradicts itself
Illegals don't vote...so once again you are wrong. "Might" does not count

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Many democrat slave owners believed they were actually helping their black slaves too....

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

We were addressing civil rights which republicans oppose
Your second point contradicts itself
Illegals don't vote...so once again you are wrong. "Might" does not count

Your premise is false. As a general rule, Republicans do NOT oppose civil rights.

And, by the way, illegals are not supposed to vote. That does not mean that no illegals DO vote. Even LEGAL aliens here are not supposed to vote. It's not just the illegal ones. The reason is because -- what's that word again? Oh yes. Citizenship.

 

[rightwinger]

Seems to have nothing to do with what I posted
But since you are making it political, why not discus why it is todays Republicans who support the values of Confederate America.......states rights, rebel flag, denial of civil rights

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

We were addressing civil rights which republicans oppose
Your second point contradicts itself
Illegals don't vote...so once again you are wrong. "Might" does not count

Your premise is false. As a general rule, Republicans do NOT oppose civil rights.

And, by the way, illegals are not supposed to vote. That does not mean that no illegals DO vote. Even LEGAL aliens here are not supposed to vote. It's not just the illegal ones. The reason is because -- what's that word again? Oh yes. Citizenship.

Non citizens do not vote

 

[IlarMeilyr]

exactly who in the republican party supports denial of civil rights?

second question: whose rights are denied when democrats find ways for illegals to vote?

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

We were addressing civil rights which republicans oppose
Your second point contradicts itself
Illegals don't vote...so once again you are wrong. "Might" does not count

Your premise is false. As a general rule, Republicans do NOT oppose civil rights.

And, by the way, illegals are not supposed to vote. That does not mean that no illegals DO vote. Even LEGAL aliens here are not supposed to vote. It's not just the illegal ones. The reason is because -- what's that word again? Oh yes. Citizenship.

Non citizens do not vote

Non citizens are not SUPPOSED to vote. Some however do vote. Repeating your mistaken claim doesn't serve to buttress it.

It would assist you, leftwhiner, if you would not rely on what is or is not "supposed" to happen when you make a broad, sweeping claim, and instead do some checking first.

For instance, The Threat of Non-Citizen Voting

 

[kaz]

Margaret Sanger "Negroes are human weeds that must be eliminated"

Hillary "I admire Margaret Sanger and the work she has done"

Do you get it, African americans? Do you understand?

As much as I despite the hosebag, do you really have to research every quote made by someone to say you admire them? That's a pretty ridiculous standard if you ask me.

Besides, Hillary doesn't want to kill blacks, she wants to enslave them and just destroy the ones who defy her

 

[rightwinger]

1. The Republican Party officially opposes gay rights in the military and in marriage

2. Illegals do not vote

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

We were addressing civil rights which republicans oppose
Your second point contradicts itself
Illegals don't vote...so once again you are wrong. "Might" does not count

Your premise is false. As a general rule, Republicans do NOT oppose civil rights.

And, by the way, illegals are not supposed to vote. That does not mean that no illegals DO vote. Even LEGAL aliens here are not supposed to vote. It's not just the illegal ones. The reason is because -- what's that word again? Oh yes. Citizenship.

Non citizens do not vote

Non citizens are not SUPPOSED to vote. Some however do vote. Repeating your mistaken claim doesn't serve to buttress it.

It would assist you, leftwhiner, if you would not rely on what is or is not "supposed" to happen when you make a broad, sweeping claim, and instead do some checking first.

For instance, The Threat of Non-Citizen Voting

Yes we have seen the conservative outrage over the minuscule number of actual cases

 

[Care4all]

redfish must believe his margaret sanger quote is factual, when it is not! Or he knows it is not factual and went with it anyway?

 

[IlarMeilyr]

first, what does gay rights have to do with planned parenthood working to eliminate black children?

second, the party does not oppose gay rights, republicans want gays to have the same rights as straights--------------marriage is not a constitutional right.

third, currently illegals do not vote in most places, California may be the first state to allow them to vote. Moonbeam Brown is working very hard to make that happen.

We were addressing civil rights which republicans oppose
Your second point contradicts itself
Illegals don't vote...so once again you are wrong. "Might" does not count

Your premise is false. As a general rule, Republicans do NOT oppose civil rights.

And, by the way, illegals are not supposed to vote. That does not mean that no illegals DO vote. Even LEGAL aliens here are not supposed to vote. It's not just the illegal ones. The reason is because -- what's that word again? Oh yes. Citizenship.

Non citizens do not vote

Non citizens are not SUPPOSED to vote. Some however do vote. Repeating your mistaken claim doesn't serve to buttress it.

It would assist you, leftwhiner, if you would not rely on what is or is not "supposed" to happen when you make a broad, sweeping claim, and instead do some checking first.

For instance, The Threat of Non-Citizen Voting

Yes we have seen the conservative outrage over the minuscule number of actual cases

Minuscule isn't the point. YOU had denied it outright.

I'll accept your retraction on that silliness.

THEN we can move on to your next baseless claim that it is "conservative outrage" over a "minuscule" number of "actual" cases.

ONE case is FAR too many. I thought you libbies were the ones who put such grave stock in the principle of "One person, One vote."

Any person who votes when not authorized to vote DILUTES my vote in violation of that principle. This is a good reason to criminalize such behavior. And if it is valid to criminalize it, then it is also worthwhile to ENFORCE it.

So much for the laughable liberal "argument" that the frequency is "minuscule."

(It is also difficult to credit your claim that it's allegedly "minuscule" when it is a crime which, by its very nature, is done as secretly as possible. Only the instances which get CAUGHT are susceptible to counting, so the truth is that it MIGHT be a whole lot more than merely "minuscule.")

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The ridiculous right and their equally ridiculous canard about Sanger.

It's like I said the other day, they can't win against the truth, so all they do is build great piles of horseshit and try to make them look like the truth.

And what’s both sad and amusing is most on the right think people actually believe their ridiculous lies, this moronic thread one of many examples.

Hard to believe that Margaret Sanger understood the importance of family planning 100 years ago.......Conservatives still oppose it

In essence what Sanger was advocating for was the right of individual liberty, the right of citizens to make decisions about their personal lives absent unwarranted interference by government, and the right of all citizens to decide whether to procreate or not.

All rights conservatives indeed oppose.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

redfish must believe his margaret sanger quote is factual, when it is not! Or he knows it is not factual and went with it anyway?

I can not find any proof that the quote is true.

HOWEVER, we DO know that Sanger did say some pretty remarkable things. Alleged "ambiguity" aside here's one:

[From] a letter to Clarence Gable in 1939, Sanger wrote: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” (Margaret Sanger commenting on the ‘Negro Project’ in a letter to Gamble, Dec. 10, 1939)

. -- GROSSU: Margaret Sanger, racist eugenicist extraordinaire

Here's another: “We want a world freer, happier, cleaner — we want a race of thoroughbreds.” -- W. SCOTT LAMB: Margaret Sanger wanted a race of thoroughbreds

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

redfish must believe his margaret sanger quote is factual, when it is not! Or he knows it is not factual and went with it anyway?

The latter – consistent with the propensity of most on the right to lie, and to repeat their lies often enough in the hope those lies are perceived to be ‘true.’

 

[SassyIrishLass]

redfish must believe his margaret sanger quote is factual, when it is not! Or he knows it is not factual and went with it anyway?

The latter – consistent with the propensity of most on the right to lie, and to repeat their lies often enough in the hope those lies are perceived to be ‘true.’

You're a nut

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The ridiculous right and their equally ridiculous canard about Sanger.

It's like I said the other day, they can't win against the truth, so all they do is build great piles of horseshit and try to make them look like the truth.

And what’s both sad and amusing is most on the right think people actually believe their ridiculous lies, this moronic thread one of many examples.

Hard to believe that Margaret Sanger understood the importance of family planning 100 years ago.......Conservatives still oppose it

In essence what Sanger was advocating for was the right of individual liberty, the right of citizens to make decisions about their personal lives absent unwarranted interference by government, and the right of all citizens to decide whether to procreate or not.

All rights conservatives indeed oppose.

You are a liar and an abject idiot, Adam_Clayton. Conservatives (unlike you moron liberals who can't see your own contradictions) SEEK individual liberty. CONSERVATIVES are the ONES who SEEK for the preservation of the RIGHT of people to make decisions about their own personal and family matters without the insidious insertion of the government. And by and large, conservatives don't want the government to get involved in our reproductive freedoms. But, that being said, conservatives are concerned with human life and you whack-a-doo liberals -- who favor alleged abortion "rights" [sic] -- place greater stock in the right to make certain choices than you do in the value of human life itself.

 

[Jack4jill]

Margaret Sanger "Negroes are human weeds that must be eliminated"

Hillary "I admire Margaret Sanger and the work she has done"

Do you get it, African americans? Do you understand?

Sanger never said that. You lie.