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If insane clowns can't own machine guns and mow down a pre-school full of children, are any of us truly free?
Lefties will never be free. They're prisoners of their own mind.
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If insane clowns can't own machine guns and mow down a pre-school full of children, are any of us truly free?
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
The bitch just admitted she wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Government has a right to regulate the Second Amendment, Hillary Clinton said in an interview on the June 5 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Clinton contended that Americans have historically recognized the government’s “right” to regulate the bearing of arms, suggesting that it was not until District of Columbia v Heller (2008) that anyone thought otherwise. Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Clinton responded:
I think that for most of our history there was a nuanced reading of the Second Amendment, until the decision by the late Justice [Antonin] Scalia. And there was no argument until then that localities, and states, and the federal government had a right–as we do with every amendment–to impose reasonable regulations.
While arguing for the government’s “right” to regulate the Second Amendment, Clinton twice refused to say the people have “a constitutional right” to keep and bear arms.
The bitch just admitted she wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
The whole crux of Heller is that government cannot deny firearm ownership "just because they feel like it", which is still the case in NYC, where I have to wait 3-6 months and pay $1000 just to own a revolver in my own apartment.
Progressives are not about "reasonable regulation", they are about 1)outright bans (which Heller rightly threw out) and 2) onerous regulations who's whole purpose is to make it as hard as possible for a law abiding citizen to own a firearm. THAT is infringement, and that is what this fight is about.
If insane clowns can't own machine guns and mow down a pre-school full of children, are any of us truly free?
Lefties will never be free. They're prisoners of their own mind.
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Spare us your fantasy that the Constitution means whatever the SC says it means. What part of "shall not be abridged" don't you understand?
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
The whole crux of Heller is that government cannot deny firearm ownership "just because they feel like it", which is still the case in NYC, where I have to wait 3-6 months and pay $1000 just to own a revolver in my own apartment.
Progressives are not about "reasonable regulation", they are about 1)outright bans (which Heller rightly threw out) and 2) onerous regulations who's whole purpose is to make it as hard as possible for a law abiding citizen to own a firearm. THAT is infringement, and that is what this fight is about.
This categorization leaves out 'Others' who expect "reasonable regulation" of anything in society that has an impact on so many; i.e.; normal social life.
The government does have the right to place reasonable restrictions on freedom but watch out when liberals dismiss the Bill of Rights as a "nuanced reading" .
The bitch just admitted she wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Government has a right to regulate the Second Amendment, Hillary Clinton said in an interview on the June 5 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Clinton contended that Americans have historically recognized the government’s “right” to regulate the bearing of arms, suggesting that it was not until District of Columbia v Heller (2008) that anyone thought otherwise. Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Clinton responded:
I think that for most of our history there was a nuanced reading of the Second Amendment, until the decision by the late Justice [Antonin] Scalia. And there was no argument until then that localities, and states, and the federal government had a right–as we do with every amendment–to impose reasonable regulations.
While arguing for the government’s “right” to regulate the Second Amendment, Clinton twice refused to say the people have “a constitutional right” to keep and bear arms.
This language clearly shows the difference between liberal and conservative approaches to govt
1. by conservative and Constitutionalist beliefs in limited govt
PEOPLE have rights by NATURE, and we agree what RESPONSIBILITIES to give to govt by the Constitution
Not the other way!
2. liberals keep teaching that govt has all the power to establish rights and will of the people
and then dictate it from the top down. All you have to do is 'get elected' and you can mandate at will by executive order.
All you have to do is get enough people to vote by 'majority rule' and you get to overrule the equal protection of other people's interests, consent or beliefs.
If you don't agree with a law or vote, all you have to do is get a judge to rule in your favor and 'that creates law from the bench by precedent'
You might as well have two different creeds or denominations fighting to establish their religious beliefs as precedent through govt.
Where is the separation of church and state, and protection from discrimination by creed, when it comes to Political Beliefs?
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Spare us your fantasy that the Constitution means whatever the SC says it means. What part of "shall not be abridged" don't you understand?
Well there's that "well regulated " part. If we are cherry picking lines .
You won't be happy unless guns are available out of vending machines . Since they can't be regulated according to you .
The bitch just admitted she wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Government has a right to regulate the Second Amendment, Hillary Clinton said in an interview on the June 5 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Clinton contended that Americans have historically recognized the government’s “right” to regulate the bearing of arms, suggesting that it was not until District of Columbia v Heller (2008) that anyone thought otherwise. Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Clinton responded:
I think that for most of our history there was a nuanced reading of the Second Amendment, until the decision by the late Justice [Antonin] Scalia. And there was no argument until then that localities, and states, and the federal government had a right–as we do with every amendment–to impose reasonable regulations.
While arguing for the government’s “right” to regulate the Second Amendment, Clinton twice refused to say the people have “a constitutional right” to keep and bear arms.
Hillary Clinton: Government Has ‘A Right’ To Regulate 2nd Amendment
The bitch just admitted she wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Moron.
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Spare us your fantasy that the Constitution means whatever the SC says it means. What part of "shall not be abridged" don't you understand?
Well there's that "well regulated " part. If we are cherry picking lines .
You won't be happy unless guns are available out of vending machines . Since they can't be regulated according to you .
The "well regulated" part is purely explanatory. It has no legal implication.
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Spare us your fantasy that the Constitution means whatever the SC says it means. What part of "shall not be abridged" don't you understand?
Well there's that "well regulated " part. If we are cherry picking lines .
You won't be happy unless guns are available out of vending machines . Since they can't be regulated according to you .
The bitch just admitted she wants to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
Government has a right to regulate the Second Amendment, Hillary Clinton said in an interview on the June 5 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos, Clinton contended that Americans have historically recognized the government’s “right” to regulate the bearing of arms, suggesting that it was not until District of Columbia v Heller (2008) that anyone thought otherwise. Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a constitutional right? That it’s not linked to the service in the militia?”
Clinton responded:
I think that for most of our history there was a nuanced reading of the Second Amendment, until the decision by the late Justice [Antonin] Scalia. And there was no argument until then that localities, and states, and the federal government had a right–as we do with every amendment–to impose reasonable regulations.
While arguing for the government’s “right” to regulate the Second Amendment, Clinton twice refused to say the people have “a constitutional right” to keep and bear arms.
This language clearly shows the difference between liberal and conservative approaches to govt
1. by conservative and Constitutionalist beliefs in limited govt
PEOPLE have rights by NATURE, and we agree what RESPONSIBILITIES to give to govt by the Constitution
Not the other way!
2. liberals keep teaching that govt has all the power to establish rights and will of the people
and then dictate it from the top down. All you have to do is 'get elected' and you can mandate at will by executive order.
All you have to do is get enough people to vote by 'majority rule' and you get to overrule the equal protection of other people's interests, consent or beliefs.
If you don't agree with a law or vote, all you have to do is get a judge to rule in your favor and 'that creates law from the bench by precedent'
You might as well have two different creeds or denominations fighting to establish their religious beliefs as precedent through govt.
Where is the separation of church and state, and protection from discrimination by creed, when it comes to Political Beliefs?
You have it backwards. If a law is passed which violates the Constitution, it is the obligation of the Courts to overturn it.
For example, laws which refuse gays the right to marry. Such laws violate the rights of consenting adults. It's not a question of overturning laws we don't like.
As an aside, I find it quite amusing that gun lovers are so quick to scream about THEIR Constitutional rights being violated, every time any gun control measures are proposed, however practical or sensible. Yet these self-same people want all sorts of regulations and restrictions put on women who try to obtain a legal abortion.
Maybe you should force those wanting to buy guns to look at pictures of children who have been shot in school shootings, or those who've been accidentally shot, before they can buy a gun. They should be forced to look at all of the gun death figures for the US and wait three days to properly consider the consequence of their actions. Just like women wanting an abortion.
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Spare us your fantasy that the Constitution means whatever the SC says it means. What part of "shall not be abridged" don't you understand?
Well there's that "well regulated " part. If we are cherry picking lines .
You won't be happy unless guns are available out of vending machines . Since they can't be regulated according to you .
"the right of the people to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" translation, the left can eat shit!
Unfortunately, this is the dark path Big Government Authoritarians are leading us down. They truly believe Civil Rights are mere 'favors', only granted and bestowed upon us by Government.
Those folks don't care about the Constitution. We are all born with inalienable rights. They're not mere 'favors' from Government. We all possess them regardless of Government.
Clinton and Scalia are in agreement:
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
Spare us your fantasy that the Constitution means whatever the SC says it means. What part of "shall not be abridged" don't you understand?
Well there's that "well regulated " part. If we are cherry picking lines .
You won't be happy unless guns are available out of vending machines . Since they can't be regulated according to you .
"the right of the people to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" translation, the left can eat shit!
Do you think we should have gun vending machines .
Unfortunately, this is the dark path Big Government Authoritarians are leading us down. They truly believe Civil Rights are mere 'favors', only granted and bestowed upon us by Government.
Those folks don't care about the Constitution. We are all born with inalienable rights. They're not mere 'favors' from Government. We all possess them regardless of Government.
Yep, and those authoritarians exist on the left and the right.