Hitler and the Big Lie

[jon_berzerk]

That looks like a bunch of fat girls running around naked, isn't that a European thing?

 

[jon_berzerk]

You're missing the point, the expert agreeing there is no evidence for a holocaust is Raul Hilberg, the foremost exponent of the holocaust.

So, I can believe Raul Hilberg or I can believe:

Behuda Yauer, . History of the Holocaust. Danbury, CT: Watts, 1982.

Baur, Erwin, Eugen Fischer, and Fritz Lenz. Menschliche Auslese und Rseenhygiene. (Human Selection and Race Hygiene.) Munich: Lehmanns, 1931.

Berenbaum, Michael. The World Must Know. New York: Little, Brown, 1993. Browning, Christopher. Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2000.

Burleigh, Michael. Death and Deliverance: Euthanasia in Germany, 1900–1945. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1995.

Carroll, James. Constantine's Sword: The Church and the Jews. New York: Houghton Mifflin, 2001.

Fischer, Klaus. The History of an Obsession: German Judeophobia and the Holocaust. New York: Continuum, 1998.

Fleming, Gerald. Hitler and the Final Solution. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1984.

Frankl, Viktor. Man's Search for Meaning. New York: Washington Square Press, 1985.

Friedlander, Henry. The Origins of Nazi Genocide: From Euthanasia to the Final Solution. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1995.

Fuhrman, Harry, ed. Holocaust and Genocide: A Search for Conscience. New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1983.

Goldhagen, Daniel J. Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust. New York: Knopf, 1996.

Hilberg, Raoul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985.

Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf (My Struggle), translated by Ralph Mannheim. New York: Houghton Mifflin, 1971.

Höss, Rudolf. Death Dealer: The Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz. New York: DaCapo, 1996.

Jäckel, Eberhard. "Einfach ein schlechtes Buch." Die Zeit, 27 May 1996, 24.

Jäckel, Eberhard. Hitler's Weltanschauung: Entwurf einer Herrschaft. (Hitler's Worldview: Outline of Power. ) Tübingen: Wunderlich, 1969.

Kantor, Alfred. An Artist's Journal of the Holocaust. New York: Schocken Books, 1987.

Katz, Steven T. The Holocaust in Historical Context, Vol. 1: The Holocaust and Mass Death Before the Modern Age. New York: Oxford University Press, 1994.

Klemperer, Werner. The Language of the Third Reich, translated by Martin Brady. London: Athlone, 2000.

Kühl, Stefan. The Nazi Connection: Eugenics, American Racism, and German National Socialism. New York: Oxford University Press, 1994.

Lacquer, Walter. The Terrible Secret: Suppression of the Truth about Hitler's "Final Solution." London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1980.

Laks, Szymon. Music from Another World, translated by Chester Kisiel. Evanston, IL: Northwestern University Press, 2000.

Lautmann, Rüdiger. "The Pink Triangle: Homosexuals as Enemies of the State." In Michael Berenbaum and Abraham Peck eds., The Holocaust and History: The Known, the Unknown and the Reexamined. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1998.

Levi, Primo. If This Is a Man: Remembering Auschwitz. New York: Summit, 1986.

Lewy, Guenter. The Nazi Persecution of the Gypsies. New York: Oxford University Press, 2000.

Lipstadt, Deborah. Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory. New York: Free Press, 1993.

Piper, Francisek. "Auschwitz Concentration Camp." In Michael Berenbaum and Abraham Peck eds., The Holocaust and History: The Known, the Unknown and the Reexamined. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1998.

Ritter, Carol, and John Roth. Different Voices: Women and the Holocaust. New York: Paragon House, 1993.

Rosenbaum, Ron. "The Roots of the Holocaust Denial." The Wall Street Journal, 12 April 2000, 4.

Schleunes, Karl. The Twisted Road to Auschwitz: Nazi Policy Toward German Jews, 1933–1939. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1990.

Schwertfeger, Ruth. Women of Theresienstadt: Voices from a Concentration Camp. New York: Berg, 1989.

Wiesel, Elie. Night. New York: Hill and Wang, 1960

AND, my father who was one of the first into Buchenwald.

I don't believe Raul Hilberg. Sorry.

Buchenwald wasn't an extermination camp. Your living father should be proof of that.



Simon Weisthenthal, the Nazi hunter, says there were no extermination camps in Germany. You calling him a liar you anti-semite bastard?
Wiesenthal Re-Confirms: 'No Extermination Camps on German Soil'

 

[jon_berzerk]

So, I can believe Raul Hilberg or I can believe:

Behuda Yauer, . History of the Holocaust. Danbury, CT: Watts, 1982.

Baur, Erwin, Eugen Fischer, and Fritz Lenz. Menschliche Auslese und Rseenhygiene. (Human Selection and Race Hygiene.) Munich: Lehmanns, 1931.

Berenbaum, Michael. The World Must Know. New York: Little, Brown, 1993. Browning, Christopher. Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers, German Killers. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2000.

Burleigh, Michael. Death and Deliverance: Euthanasia in Germany, 1900–1945. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1995.

Carroll, James. Constantine's Sword: The Church and the Jews. New York: Houghton Mifflin, 2001.

Fischer, Klaus. The History of an Obsession: German Judeophobia and the Holocaust. New York: Continuum, 1998.

Fleming, Gerald. Hitler and the Final Solution. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1984.

Frankl, Viktor. Man's Search for Meaning. New York: Washington Square Press, 1985.

Friedlander, Henry. The Origins of Nazi Genocide: From Euthanasia to the Final Solution. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1995.

Fuhrman, Harry, ed. Holocaust and Genocide: A Search for Conscience. New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1983.

Goldhagen, Daniel J. Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust. New York: Knopf, 1996.

Hilberg, Raoul. The Destruction of the European Jews. New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985.

Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf (My Struggle), translated by Ralph Mannheim. New York: Houghton Mifflin, 1971.

Höss, Rudolf. Death Dealer: The Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz. New York: DaCapo, 1996.

Jäckel, Eberhard. "Einfach ein schlechtes Buch." Die Zeit, 27 May 1996, 24.

Jäckel, Eberhard. Hitler's Weltanschauung: Entwurf einer Herrschaft. (Hitler's Worldview: Outline of Power. ) Tübingen: Wunderlich, 1969.

Kantor, Alfred. An Artist's Journal of the Holocaust. New York: Schocken Books, 1987.

Katz, Steven T. The Holocaust in Historical Context, Vol. 1: The Holocaust and Mass Death Before the Modern Age. New York: Oxford University Press, 1994.

Klemperer, Werner. The Language of the Third Reich, translated by Martin Brady. London: Athlone, 2000.

Kühl, Stefan. The Nazi Connection: Eugenics, American Racism, and German National Socialism. New York: Oxford University Press, 1994.

Lacquer, Walter. The Terrible Secret: Suppression of the Truth about Hitler's "Final Solution." London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1980.

Laks, Szymon. Music from Another World, translated by Chester Kisiel. Evanston, IL: Northwestern University Press, 2000.

Lautmann, Rüdiger. "The Pink Triangle: Homosexuals as Enemies of the State." In Michael Berenbaum and Abraham Peck eds., The Holocaust and History: The Known, the Unknown and the Reexamined. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1998.

Levi, Primo. If This Is a Man: Remembering Auschwitz. New York: Summit, 1986.

Lewy, Guenter. The Nazi Persecution of the Gypsies. New York: Oxford University Press, 2000.

Lipstadt, Deborah. Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory. New York: Free Press, 1993.

Piper, Francisek. "Auschwitz Concentration Camp." In Michael Berenbaum and Abraham Peck eds., The Holocaust and History: The Known, the Unknown and the Reexamined. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1998.

Ritter, Carol, and John Roth. Different Voices: Women and the Holocaust. New York: Paragon House, 1993.

Rosenbaum, Ron. "The Roots of the Holocaust Denial." The Wall Street Journal, 12 April 2000, 4.

Schleunes, Karl. The Twisted Road to Auschwitz: Nazi Policy Toward German Jews, 1933–1939. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1990.

Schwertfeger, Ruth. Women of Theresienstadt: Voices from a Concentration Camp. New York: Berg, 1989.

Wiesel, Elie. Night. New York: Hill and Wang, 1960

AND, my father who was one of the first into Buchenwald.

I don't believe Raul Hilberg. Sorry.

Buchenwald wasn't an extermination camp. Your living father should be proof of that.



Simon Weisthenthal, the Nazi hunter, says there were no extermination camps in Germany. You calling him a liar you anti-semite bastard?
Wiesenthal Re-Confirms: 'No Extermination Camps on German Soil'

 

[Iceman]

Is this your album?

You have an interesting taste!

 

[jon_berzerk]

Is this your album?

You have an interesting taste!

if you do not preserve the evidence of past

one is bound to repeat it

 

[bigrebnc1775]

OH goodie another hate jew thread.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

OH goodie another hate jew thread.

You like hating Jews

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

Is this your album?

You have an interesting taste!

if you do not preserve the evidence of past

one is bound to repeat it

The victor writes the history.

He leaves some stuff out and makes up some other stuff

 

[Peterf]

Topaz tells us repeatedly:
Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Jews tell big lies. The
Jewish media took his words out of context and claimed that Hitler was
in favor of big lies.

Well, he invaded Holland after guaranteeing her neutrality:

www.ww2sites.com

He invaded the USSR after signing a non-aggression pact with Stalin:

faits-et-documents.com - faits-et-documents Resources and Information. This website is for sale!

He swindled the German people out of money for Volkswagens that were
never delievered and the money was never refunded:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/227aca7bb5d9e4d0

He betrayed the Catholic Church after signing a treaty with the
Vatican:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/17ff769f77793d6c

He perpetuated the Gleiwitz Fraud

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a433c8ef6fc338fd

He repeatedly assured the world that he wanted peace, despite the fact
that he invaded every country in Continental Europe with the exception
of Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. He also invaded North Africa.:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/195ba1673076f9e4

Hitler thought Mein Kampf was out-of-date before the war started.

But right until the very end in 1945 every couple who married was given a copy of Mein Kampf by the State. (Who paid royalties to the author who got pretty rich on them.)

 

[Peterf]

That looks like a bunch of fat girls running around naked, isn't that a European thing?

For the first time since coming to this board I have - I think this is the term - negged you. Something I had hoped to avoid ever having to do.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

That looks like a bunch of fat girls running around naked, isn't that a European thing?

For the first time since coming to this board I have - I think this is the term - negged you. Something I had hoped to avoid ever having to do.

What does it mean

 

[editec]

There was nobody named HITLER.

WWII is a lie. It never happened,​

Note that none of us can prove either of those statements to be untrue to anyone who refuses to accept the vast body of history that tells us these statements are wrong?

That is the power of the KNOW NOTHING, Citizens.

DENY DENY DENY LIE LIE LIE.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

There was nobody named HITLER.

WWII is a lie. It never happened,​

Note that none of us can prove either of those statements to be untrue to anyone who refuses to accept the vast body of history that tells us these statements are wrong?

That is the power of the KNOW NOTHING, Citizens.

DENY DENY DENY LIE LIE LIE.

Dont be silly, Hitler existed and WW2 happened, there's mountains of evidence for both

 

[National Socialist]

What is the point of this thread?

To answer the question, "what was the holocaust"?

If a 'holocaust expert' says there is no evidence, what exactly are we to believe?

Ernst Zundel is a discredited lying douchebag who was deported from Canada for spreading this garbage.

Actually Zundel was persecuted because Canada along with most European countries don't allow free speech.

 

[gipper]

To answer the question, "what was the holocaust"?

If a 'holocaust expert' says there is no evidence, what exactly are we to believe?

Ernst Zundel is a discredited lying douchebag who was deported from Canada for spreading this garbage.

Actually Zundel was persecuted because Canada along with most European countries don't allow free speech.

Why would a National Socialist care about free speech?

Most hypocritical...don't you think?

 

[editec]

There was nobody named HITLER.

WWII is a lie. It never happened,​

Note that none of us can prove either of those statements to be untrue to anyone who refuses to accept the vast body of history that tells us these statements are wrong?

That is the power of the KNOW NOTHING, Citizens.

DENY DENY DENY LIE LIE LIE.

Dont be silly, Hitler existed and WW2 happened, there's mountains of evidence for both

Nah -uh!
​

 

[National Socialist]

Ernst Zundel is a discredited lying douchebag who was deported from Canada for spreading this garbage.

Actually Zundel was persecuted because Canada along with most European countries don't allow free speech.

Why would a National Socialist care about free speech?

Most hypocritical...don't you think?

Course not. Free Speech is a must in a society. Now inciting riots or printing jewish filth is another thing. Just like the lie that Hitler burned books for fun etc. What was burned was filth like porn and garbage from jewish/communist authors.

 

[kaz]

Funny how denials that anyone ever tried to exterminate the Jews always come from people who want to exterminate the Jews...

 

[gipper]

Actually Zundel was persecuted because Canada along with most European countries don't allow free speech.

Why would a National Socialist care about free speech?

Most hypocritical...don't you think?

Course not. Free Speech is a must in a society. Now inciting riots or printing jewish filth is another thing. Just like the lie that Hitler burned books for fun etc. What was burned was filth like porn and garbage from jewish/communist authors.

Oh....I see. Free speech is not available to those you dislike.

Remember this?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[Iceman]

Gipper, why should we give free speech to those who jail us?

Our enemies on the left don't give us this right of free speech, the mistake of us on the right was giving the left this right of free speech when we actually had power.