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The First amendment is theocratic?
And you wonder why your arguments aren't convincing.
Do you even know what the word theocracy means?
Yes. Do you? Then please tell me how preventing the government from interfering in the free exercise of someone's religion creates a theocracy? Especially considering free exercise is the exact opposite of theocratic rule.
That case isn't. This case, however, is just about the abortifacients. Despite you and your little friends trying to lie otherwise.
So you acknowledge that this is a legitimate slippery slope to all sorts of further theocratic special privileges, contrary to US law, in the future.
not according to the opinion of this case by the SC
Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.
But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.
Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.
Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.
But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.
MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra
This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.
Of course it is. They hate women and want to control them.
So you acknowledge that this is a legitimate slippery slope to all sorts of further theocratic special privileges, contrary to US law, in the future.
not according to the opinion of this case by the SC
Are you sure? Did the Supreme Court specifically rule that objections to providing other birth control methods were without merit?
not according to the opinion of this case by the SC
Are you sure? Did the Supreme Court specifically rule that objections to providing other birth control methods were without merit?
no offense but apparently you have not read the opinion
In any event, our decision in these cases is concerned
solely with the contraceptive mandate. Our decision
should not be understood to hold that an insurance coverage mandate must necessarily fall if it conflicts with an employers religious beliefs.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf
Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.
But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.
Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.
Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.
But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.
MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra
This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.
Neither impact a zygote, and Viagra may encourage fertility. Religious beliefs may often spliit hairs, yes, but consistancy is not a Constitutional requirement, Hobby Lobby prevailed on the primary issue before the Court.
Are you sure? Did the Supreme Court specifically rule that objections to providing other birth control methods were without merit?
no offense but apparently you have not read the opinion
In any event, our decision in these cases is concerned
solely with the contraceptive mandate. Our decision
should not be understood to hold that an insurance coverage mandate must necessarily fall if it conflicts with an employers religious beliefs.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf
'necessarily' is the key word there.
Ah, I see, it's not just about abortifacients. It's about ALL birth control.
How about then you people quit pretending what it's about.
That case isn't. This case, however, is just about the abortifacients. Despite you and your little friends trying to lie otherwise.
So you acknowledge that this is a legitimate slippery slope to all sorts of further theocratic special privileges, contrary to US law, in the future.
What Hobby Lobby wanted to do was illegal until the Court allowed its religious argument to exempt it from that law.
AGAIN, why couldn't Muslims do exactly the same thing if they wanted to impose religion-based laws on their community that are currently illegal?
No. What the Federal Government did was illegal. Especially since they were already giving that same exact religious exemption to other institutions.
You see the First amendment trumps administrative rules.
They probably could have argued under equal protection as well.
Why are you scrupulously avoiding the Muslim issue? Other than the obvious reason that you know you'll lose that argument...
Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.
But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.
Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.
Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.
But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.
MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra
This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.
Neither impact a zygote, and Viagra may encourage fertility. Religious beliefs may often spliit hairs, yes, but consistancy is not a Constitutional requirement, Hobby Lobby prevailed on the primary issue before the Court.
But neither are necessary procedures or pharmaceuticals, either. They are for men who wish to control their family size or enhance their sexual experience. Such consideration for men but it's OK to oppress women. Gee, I bet Hobby Lobby is a good ol' southern corporation.
That's bullshit that Viagra encourages fertility. A man is either shooting blanks or live bullets. All Viagra does is help concentrate blood into his extremities, not boost their sperm count.
Why don't these Christian zealots have a problem with semen being imprisoned in a man's testicles after having a vasectomy? That's a lot of babies going to waste.
I'm gonna go down to Hobby Lobby and spend some money, stop by Chik Fil A for lunch, then watch Duck Dynasty. Piss on the haters, and God Bless America.
Sure you didn't choke on it?Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.
But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.
Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.
Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.
But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.
MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra
This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.
It is but the thought of one of those homophobes with a four hour boner just made me throw up a bit.
Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.
But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.
Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.
Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.
But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.
MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra
This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.
