Holy crap i just lit up a smoke at a bar

[jon_berzerk]

good point

muhammed as a private property owner gets to make the choice if it is allowed on his property

not the government saying so

Who the fuck mentioned "goverment"?

who the fuck else would interfere with a bar owners right to choose

if he allows smoking on the property or not retard

Whether a bar (or anywhere) "allows smoking" isn't anywhere near the point.

The point is, those are your lungs, you put whatever you want in 'em ------- RIGHT?
By the same token, these are MY lungs, and you don't get to put whatever you want in them too.

Understand??

That's why the first thing I said here was "bring your own air tank". If you can do that without peeing in everybody else's pool, then knock yourself out, who cares.

It's when you start pushing your shit on other people that the stop sign goes up.

UNDERSTAND?

You are simply wrong. If someone is smoking in a bar and you don't like it, you can fucking leave. You nanny state control freaks are the #1 threat to liberty.

and what if I was fucking there first?

Ooops.

you there before the owner

 

[jon_berzerk]

The most asinine argument ever made was the number of people who pretend to give a damn about the employees.

Did you know it was a bar walking in? There are 16 states that acknowledge that.

Used to be all states. Smoking in public is becoming a social and legal atrocity. In NJ it is even being banned on beaches

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

there are smoke free casinos

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The point being, a fucking smoker isn't committing an individual act. He's involving everybody in the room whether they want to be involved or not

As I just wrote everybody in the room involves everybody else with what they exhale. Why pick on smokers and not others? I may dislike your rank breath as much as you dislike a smokers. Not that hard to understand.

I usually have to get within a few inches to smell someone's breath...I can smell the stench of a smoker as soon as I enter a room

So just don't enter that room if you find that objectionable. Who asked ya?

Just go smoke somewhere else

You fucken go somewhere else.
Leave it up to the bar owner,they can allow it or not.
If it's so popular to have a none smoking bar there should be plenty of them for you to patronize.

 

[flacaltenn]

Houston lost a lot of bars and nightclubs due to the smoking ban. And of course a crap load of taxes.
They all moved outside the city limits.

Since there are many more NON-smokers than smokers, that's not likely to be the cause of "a lot of bars and nightclubs" closing.

Admit it - you just made that up.

You're forgetting that drinkers are smokers.

And?

How does that impact what I wrote?

There are now more NON-smokers than smokers. Some drink alcohol and some don't.

Actually there have always been more nonsmokers than smokers. Even after Big Tobacco hooked army vets in World War One and propagated the whole thing via mass media, smokers never exceeded about 40% of the population (here).

Check out how times change --- watch what Mike Wallace does in the first ten seconds here:

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Can you imagine anybody doing that now?

Evidence like this lets us know it wasn't that long ago at all that we were subhuman knuckledraggers. And in many things still are.

Winston commercial from 1961.......imagine if they did something like that today?

In 1950s some DOCTORS were still recommending cigarettes to some asthma patients. The Journ Amer Med Assoc ran CIGARETTE ads til the late 50s. And only 1/3 of US doctors in 1960 were convinced about the evidence of health risks.. Wasn't just the Tobacco companies in denial back then. People try to make it MORE of a conspiracy than it was.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The most asinine argument ever made was the number of people who pretend to give a damn about the employees.

Did you know it was a bar walking in? There are 16 states that acknowledge that.

Used to be all states. Smoking in public is becoming a social and legal atrocity. In NJ it is even being banned on beaches

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Used to be all states. Smoking in public is becoming a social and legal atrocity. In NJ it is even being banned on beaches

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Being a pole smoker he's used to the zero carcinogenic smokes.

 

[rightwinger]

The point being, a fucking smoker isn't committing an individual act. He's involving everybody in the room whether they want to be involved or not

As I just wrote everybody in the room involves everybody else with what they exhale. Why pick on smokers and not others? I may dislike your rank breath as much as you dislike a smokers. Not that hard to understand.

I usually have to get within a few inches to smell someone's breath...I can smell the stench of a smoker as soon as I enter a room

So just don't enter that room if you find that objectionable. Who asked ya?

Just go smoke somewhere else

You fucken go somewhere else.
Leave it up to the bar owner,they can allow it or not.
If it's so popular to have a none smoking bar there should be plenty of them for you to patronize.

The cool part is I no longer have to

You want to spread your stink, take it outside.

 

[rightwinger]

Used to be all states. Smoking in public is becoming a social and legal atrocity. In NJ it is even being banned on beaches

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Smokers used to be the Nazis.....lighting up wherever and whenever they wanted. Stinking up other people's cars, homes and places of business. Throwing their butts on the ground and saying.....someone pick that up

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

As I just wrote everybody in the room involves everybody else with what they exhale. Why pick on smokers and not others? I may dislike your rank breath as much as you dislike a smokers. Not that hard to understand.

I usually have to get within a few inches to smell someone's breath...I can smell the stench of a smoker as soon as I enter a room

So just don't enter that room if you find that objectionable. Who asked ya?

Just go smoke somewhere else

You fucken go somewhere else.
Leave it up to the bar owner,they can allow it or not.
If it's so popular to have a none smoking bar there should be plenty of them for you to patronize.

The cool part is I no longer have to

You want to spread your stink, take it outside.

No problem here.I dont live inside the city limits.
And since a shitload of em moved outside the city limits I now have more options than those who do.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Smokers used to be the Nazis.....lighting up wherever and whenever they wanted. Stinking up other people's cars, homes and places of business. Throwing their butts on the ground and saying.....someone pick that up

where do you come with your stupid shit

are all those people powerless to say no

sounds like you are projecting again

 

[Disir]

The most asinine argument ever made was the number of people who pretend to give a damn about the employees.

Did you know it was a bar walking in? There are 16 states that acknowledge that.

Used to be all states. Smoking in public is becoming a social and legal atrocity. In NJ it is even being banned on beaches

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

You can be as vulgar and mean as you want. I already got what I wanted which was the fact that you were using employees as a matter of convenience when in reality.........you don't give a fuck. You have a good day.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Smokers used to be the Nazis.....lighting up wherever and whenever they wanted. Stinking up other people's cars, homes and places of business. Throwing their butts on the ground and saying.....someone pick that up

Just how big of a pussy are you?
You dont even have the balls to tell someone not to smoke in your car or home?

 

[jon_berzerk]

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Smokers used to be the Nazis.....lighting up wherever and whenever they wanted. Stinking up other people's cars, homes and places of business. Throwing their butts on the ground and saying.....someone pick that up

Just how big of a pussy are you?
You dont even have the balls to tell someone not to smoke in your car or home?

that is the way it looks from here too

--LOL

 

[rightwinger]

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Smokers used to be the Nazis.....lighting up wherever and whenever they wanted. Stinking up other people's cars, homes and places of business. Throwing their butts on the ground and saying.....someone pick that up

where do you come with your stupid shit

are all those people powerless to say no

sounds like you are projecting again

Seems like they did say no

That is why smokers are whining so much. Smokers were not used to being told no

 

[rightwinger]

Used to be all states. Smoking in public is becoming a social and legal atrocity. In NJ it is even being banned on beaches

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

You can be as vulgar and mean as you want. I already got what I wanted which was the fact that you were using employees as a matter of convenience when in reality.........you don't give a fuck. You have a good day.

Hardly, employees were not in a position of power. If you were a bartender or waitress you were told suck it up or leave

To think they inhaled the filth of others voluntarily is ridiculous

 

[Disir]

I am aware of this. Sixteen states. Did you know it was a bar when you walked in? If most of the people that come into your bar smoke and that ends...................the bartender stops being able to make rent. Simple stuff. Tell me you care.

I don't give a fuck...I knew it was an elevator when I walked in
Doesn't give you the right to attack me with your stench

Bartenders are doing just fine in states that ban smoking. They don't go home stinking to high hell either

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

You can be as vulgar and mean as you want. I already got what I wanted which was the fact that you were using employees as a matter of convenience when in reality.........you don't give a fuck. You have a good day.

Hardly, employees were not in a position of power. If you were a bartender or waitress you were told suck it up or leave

To think they inhaled the filth of others voluntarily is ridiculous

Thankfully, you came along to the rescue to give voice to the powerless, amiright?

No. You. Don't.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Here is a suggestion. Don't use employees of any business like you are doing them a favor when really it is all about you. Business got hit. Over 42% in Michigan.Casinos in Illinois took a major hit.
No Ifs, Ands or Butts: Illinois Casinos Lost Revenue after Smoking Banned
http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm

Try again.

Smokers can't gamble unless they are stinking up the place?

What a bunch of pussies

Damn RW you are a fucking smoking Nazi if I ever saw one.

Smokers used to be the Nazis.....lighting up wherever and whenever they wanted. Stinking up other people's cars, homes and places of business. Throwing their butts on the ground and saying.....someone pick that up

where do you come with your stupid shit

are all those people powerless to say no

sounds like you are projecting again

Seems like they did say no

That is why smokers are whining so much. Smokers were not used to being told no

why is honesty beyond your realm of comprehension

 

[Pogo]

The point being, a fucking smoker isn't committing an individual act. He's involving everybody in the room whether they want to be involved or not

As I just wrote everybody in the room involves everybody else with what they exhale. Why pick on smokers and not others? I may dislike your rank breath as much as you dislike a smokers. Not that hard to understand.

Don't know if you're aware of this but --- you have no clue about my breath from the internet.
What you "dislike" doesn't really enter into it ..... it's what it does to the other person's body, like it or not. You don't seem to get that while you have the right to smoke if you want to ------ everybody else still has the right NOT to.

And on the one hand nobody's forcing you to smoke. And on the other hand....
... now do the math.

As I said at the outset ---- bring your own tank/bubble to blow that smoke into, and there's no issue. But don't walk into a room and force your addiction on everybody else because you're too weak to get over it.

 

[Pogo]

The point being, a fucking smoker isn't committing an individual act. He's involving everybody in the room whether they want to be involved or not

As I just wrote everybody in the room involves everybody else with what they exhale. Why pick on smokers and not others? I may dislike your rank breath as much as you dislike a smokers. Not that hard to understand.

I usually have to get within a few inches to smell someone's breath...I can smell the stench of a smoker as soon as I enter a room

Me too. They broadcast it. The thing is, smoking kills so much olfactory sense they're oblivious to it.
Nothing like being out in the world somewhere, some smoker starts up, and you have to go home and change clothes.

 

[Pogo]

The point is, those are your lungs, you put whatever you want in 'em ------- RIGHT?
By the same token, these are MY lungs, and you don't get to put whatever you want in them too.

The only way a person gets to choose what is by choosing where you breathe. What gives you more right to choose the environment than me? Or the person who owns the establishment? Anti-smokers are babies who have thrown tantrums until they got their way. Don't have to breath a little hint of smoke just don't breathe there.

Sooooooo.... the onus is on me to bring my own SCUBA tank, because of the fact that you can't get over a mild addiction that nobody but you chose to take up in the first place.

Thanks for clearing that up.