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Don't make excuses for it. It was pure "corporate welfare". Had he let those companies go out of business (as he should have and as he was legally required to do), the U.S. economy would be exponentially stronger today. If for no other reason, we wouldn't be $20 trillion in debt. But we also wouldn't have Americans employed by incompetent companies. We would have American workers working for stronger companies today - which means more stability and more success.Bailing out a collapsing economy is what Obama did.
Do tell why all these 13M are poor. Do they all suffer from handicaps and mental illnesses that prevent them from working? Do they all have families who apparently shit on them and threw them out for the trouble?
Nay, far more likely they've made stupid decisions, similar to my son's, in trying to live a lifestyle that their paycheck cannot provide, or worse, those who turned to crime rather than commit themselves to a "proper" life.
I feel no obligation to support those who make stupid decisions in their life, especially when I believe, and am regularly told, that I've no right to tell someone how to live. To clarify, I've no problem with them doing as they wish, right up until they start reaching in my wallet to pay for their choices.
If the fools need more money, then they best get off their asses and earn it. There is nothing preventing them from finding a second job so they can have that unlimited cell phone plan, there is nothing preventing them from taking on a 2h a day paper route to pay for whatever it is they feel is holding them back from success...
It was made necessary by failed republican policies. The huge tax breaks corporations see under every GOP president is corporate welfare.Don't make excuses for it. It was pure "corporate welfare". Had he let those companies go out of business (as he should have and as he was legally required to do), the U.S. economy would be exponentially stronger today. If for no other reason, we wouldn't be $20 trillion in debt. But we also wouldn't have Americans employed by incompetent companies. We would have American workers working for stronger companies today - which means more stability and more success.Bailing out a collapsing economy is what Obama did.
Oh....and I forgot to add....a huge increase in sales tax to pull in revenue from the dirt-bag gamblers, prostitutes, drug-dealers, etc. who pay no income tax. They may be able to avoid that - but they can't avoid buying clothes, soap, shoes, etc. Time we nail those S.O.B.'S and make them pay their "fair share".So let's overhaul our disgusting tax code. I'll sign on the dotted line if you will!Tax dollars to dollar made- corporations are getting away with robbery.
10% flat tax across the board on income - absolutely no deductions.
20% flat tax across the board on corporations - absolutely no deductions.
Simplified. Streamlined. Cost effective. Priced for job growth.
It wasn't necessary. But you lefties love socialism. You love to prop up failure to ensure more failure in the future.It was made necessary by failed republican policies.
AmenDo tell why all these 13M are poor. Do they all suffer from handicaps and mental illnesses that prevent them from working? Do they all have families who apparently shit on them and threw them out for the trouble?
Nay, far more likely they've made stupid decisions, similar to my son's, in trying to live a lifestyle that their paycheck cannot provide, or worse, those who turned to crime rather than commit themselves to a "proper" life.
I feel no obligation to support those who make stupid decisions in their life, especially when I believe, and am regularly told, that I've no right to tell someone how to live. To clarify, I've no problem with them doing as they wish, right up until they start reaching in my wallet to pay for their choices.
If the fools need more money, then they best get off their asses and earn it. There is nothing preventing them from finding a second job so they can have that unlimited cell phone plan, there is nothing preventing them from taking on a 2h a day paper route to pay for whatever it is they feel is holding them back from success...
The >13M are full-time workers. They are paid so little that they qualify as poor.
According to you, how many hours per week are full-time workers to work? 40, 80, 120?
According to you, how many jobs are workers to have? 2, 3, 4?
As of this week I have 790 employees. The lowest paid employees are paid $48,950.00 per year, plus 100% company paid benefits. Every employer should be doing his/her part.
Oh it wasn't necessary? Well it workedIt wasn't necessary. But you lefties love socialism. You love to prop up failure to ensure more failure in the future.It was made necessary by failed republican policies.
Your left-wing propaganda simply doesn't hold up chief...
Corporations pay half of their employees social security and FICA.
In those kinds of "career" jobs they match 401k contributions and pay into their employees health insurance a lot of the time as well.
My companys lowest paid worker is probably making under 20k a year full time. Hard to live off thatDo tell why all these 13M are poor. Do they all suffer from handicaps and mental illnesses that prevent them from working? Do they all have families who apparently shit on them and threw them out for the trouble?
Nay, far more likely they've made stupid decisions, similar to my son's, in trying to live a lifestyle that their paycheck cannot provide, or worse, those who turned to crime rather than commit themselves to a "proper" life.
I feel no obligation to support those who make stupid decisions in their life, especially when I believe, and am regularly told, that I've no right to tell someone how to live. To clarify, I've no problem with them doing as they wish, right up until they start reaching in my wallet to pay for their choices.
If the fools need more money, then they best get off their asses and earn it. There is nothing preventing them from finding a second job so they can have that unlimited cell phone plan, there is nothing preventing them from taking on a 2h a day paper route to pay for whatever it is they feel is holding them back from success...
The >13M are full-time workers. They are paid so little that they qualify as poor.
According to you, how many hours per week are full-time workers to work? 40, 80, 120?
According to you, how many jobs are workers to have? 2, 3, 4?
As of this week I have 790 employees. The lowest paid employees are paid $48,950.00 per year, plus 100% company paid benefits. Every employer should be doing his/her part.
It did?!?Oh it wasn't necessary? Well it worked
Back it can be done. And if they don't like it - they are free to go work somewhere else.My companys lowest paid worker is probably making under 20k a year full time. Hard to live off that
It work in the sense that it saved us from a serious economic depression.. how old are you? Short memory?It did?!?Oh it wasn't necessary? Well it worked
$20 trillion in debt, record number of people out of the labor force, record poverty. You have a strange metric for "success".
No it didn't. Barack Obama said that if he was allowed to through trillions of dollars around the country, unemployment would "never" hit 8%. Instead, it went over 10%.It work in the sense that it saved us from a serious economic depression...
The answer to the question asked of me is "However many jobs they need to live the lifestyle they've chosen to have." If one wishes to work only 35-40 hours a week at minimum wage, then concessions must be made, like cellphones and cable for instance, or if you're very stupid and had kids whilst working McDonald's, perhaps harsher cuts, like cars and having a 2bdrm apartment.
I've no sympathy and nothing ya'll say is going to give me any. While I do have money in the bank, my family and I live very well off of about $36k a year and it's not like where I live in Alaska is 'cheap' either; we have one of the higher costs of living in the nation.
It's not hard for a family to come up with $36k a year, even /if/ one has made stupid ass decisions in ones life.
What would you say your level of economic understanding is?No it didn't. Barack Obama said that if he was allowed to through trillions of dollars around the country, unemployment would "never" hit 8%. Instead, it went over 10%.It work in the sense that it saved us from a serious economic depression...
It can barely be done, certainly not easy for lets say, a single mother. I don't think any American working 40 hours a week should be below the line of poverty.Back it can be done. And if they don't like it - they are free to go work somewhere else.My companys lowest paid worker is probably making under 20k a year full time. Hard to live off that
And not for nothing - but in my last position my salary increased $17,000 as my performance dictated increases and promotions. So that person may be at $20,000 today, but they don't have to be there tomorrow (and won't be if they perform).
