NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
"I know it hurts when you are exposed as a pro-Hitler sympathizer."
Au contraire.....
It is you who have been exposed as a lying scum, as you have not been able to provide any quotes of mine.....and there must be tons of posts.....that support your slander.
Since they don't exist, you must be an ankle-nipping, back-stabbing whiner who has been and will continue to be, seen as the dishonorable wretch that you are.
The explanation for you lies is simply how thoroughly I've embarrassed you in our exchanges.....and more to come, below.
Now to show how ignorant you are of historical facts.
"Hitler would have won if the USA had not intervened."
1. Not only is there no evidence to show that, but "....advisers had had the gall to suggest not only that the democracies could survive a Nazi conquest of the USSR...but that, in such an event, the United States should not recognize a soviet government in exile. George Kennan echoed those feelings.
Weil, "A Pretty Good Club," p. 106.
2. . The decision to fight a land war against Germany was the first of a long series of tragic mistakes in the prosecution of the war. Hanson Baldwin, military critic of the New York Times, declares in his book, "Great Mistakes of the War:
" 'There is no doubt whatsoever that it would have been to the interest of Britain, the United States, and the world to have allowed and indeed to have encouraged-the world's two great dictatorships to fight each other to a frazzle.'
Baldwin writes that the United States put itself "in the role-at times a disgraceful role-of fearful suppliant and propitiating ally, anxious at nearly any cost to keep Russia fighting. In retrospect, how stupid!"
3. "By the beginning of 1945, before the invasion of the homeland itself, Germany was reaching a state of helplessness. Her armament production was falling irretrievably, orderliness in effort was disappearing, and total disruption and disintegration were well along. Her armies were still in the field. But with the impending collapse of the supporting economy, the indications are convincing that they would have had to cease fighting-any effective fighting-within a few months. Germany was mortally wounded."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.116
4. What could, should have happened? When the (anticipated) event that Hitler would attack Stalin's Russia, as they did June 21st, 1941, America should have done nothing...no more than relaxing restrictions on exports to the Russians...but at the same time securing a quid pro quo for further assistance! Lend-Lease should not have been the automatic and unlimited buffet that it turned into!
"Finally, should the Soviet regime fall,...we should refuse to recognize a Communist government-in-exile, leaving the path clear for establishment for a non-Communist government in Russia after the war." These were the words of Loy Henderson, Soviet and Eastern European affairs expert and Foreign Service officer, as quoted by
Martin Weil in "A pretty good club: The founding fathers of the U.S. Foreign Service," p. 106.
So....what have we learned?
Certainly not that Jakal is a congenital liar....that has long been established.
But that in addition to being lying scum, he knows nothing about the history of WWII....as testified to by George Kennan, Hanson Baldwin, Martin Weil, Chesly Manly, and a ton of Soviet experts.
Also....I have fun doing this!
Posting someone else's opinion without evidence to back it up is not really different than posting your own opinion without evidence to back it up.
You're claiming that the US should have held off engaging Germany in 1941? Because of your writing style it's hard sometimes to figure out what you're trying to say (no offense, it's just a fact).
If that's the case, then Germany would have been able to hold out years longer, which by any reasonable estimate would have made it almost a certainty that Germany would have gotten the atomic bomb.
it's not a writing style. it's a quoting style. often out of context, contradictory quotes.
saying it's a writing style implies original thought and analysis, and the closest PC has ever gotten to that is some incomprehensible insults i.e.PoliticalChic said:With very little effort you have become our main source of greenhouse gases.
you windbag....you're the explanation of why the Hindenburg ended up the way it did.
what the hell is that supposed to mean? i'm sure in her mind it seemed bright and illuminating, but then in the darkness that is her mind so would a glow-in-the-dark garfield sticker.
Conservatism is a large set of bad ideas. When someone commits to try to defend or advance those ideas, the first problem they run into is the simple fact that they are bad ideas. Even if you like them they're still bad.
Each conservative in that situation copes with that fundamental problem in his or her own way.
This thread, like all her others, is PC's way of coping.